★ SOS Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 I was just wondering, how many zones use ASSS? Are there any bigger zones that use it?
★ Maverick Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 SSCX-A Hyperspace does. I think thats the only real zone that uses ASSS... however its kinda dead.Same with SSCX-A Grand Theft Auto. Not sure though Check out your zone population statistics at stats.sshq.net! MaverickSubspace Statistics AdministratorRetired SSCU Trench Wars Super ModeratorTWCore Coordinator Administrator
Yupa Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Hyperspace didn't fail, though - the staff are taking a break or something There are a few neat zones in development
★ Maverick Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 is that you, akai? Check out your zone population statistics at stats.sshq.net! MaverickSubspace Statistics AdministratorRetired SSCU Trench Wars Super ModeratorTWCore Coordinator Administrator
Dr Brain Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 I closed Hyperspace while I rebuild it from the ground up. We're the only zone using ASSS that's still around. BZ died, GTA never lived, and ASSS test zone hardly counts. Freedom is the right to be wrong.
★ Maverick Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 OMG its akai! Why change your name again? Check out your zone population statistics at stats.sshq.net! MaverickSubspace Statistics AdministratorRetired SSCU Trench Wars Super ModeratorTWCore Coordinator Administrator
Yupa Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Alyssa Milano told me she'd have sex with me 24/7 for 3 years if I did.
🜲 PoLiX Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Extreme Games is preparing to do a day trial in the next couple of months, maybe not even that. Was talking to Junky about it. So I think that will prove or break the chance of ASSS becoming the dominant server. SSForum.net - September 01, 2002 - Rowen (SSDownloads.Com), PoLiX (SSCentral.Com), and Cyberise (Subspace.Net)
Yupa Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 I don't. ASSS will be the dominant server. Subgame is maintained by hacks...lots of hacks, ASSS is not - it's a simple choice.
🜲 PoLiX Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Yes, but if it can't handle a large zone, it will chase most newbs away from using it, and we all know who creates 90% of new zones. SSForum.net - September 01, 2002 - Rowen (SSDownloads.Com), PoLiX (SSCentral.Com), and Cyberise (Subspace.Net)
Dr Brain Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 I've done some consulting in the past with The Junky, and I've made it clear that ASSS will not yet support EG. That said, I don't know why you think it'll make or break it. Most newbies don't get scared away from software that can't handle 100 players. They get scared away because it's ASSS. ASSS is the most complicated peice of software in SS to install and configure. It's more complicated than MERV, TWCore and custom billing--combined. Most newbie zone owners can barely get subgame itself running. BUT, any newer zone that wants to be able to seriously compete in the next year will need to move to ASSS. There are some things that just cannot be done with bots. Freedom is the right to be wrong.
Yupa Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Doesn't make sense to me. If it can't handle a large zone, it'll keep the large zones from using it, sure, but newbs last I checked don't think all that much - they use what people yell at them to use.
★ D1st0rt Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 It can be made to support more users far more easily than subgame can be hacked to add all of the features _UU___UU__SSSSS____AAA____UU___UU__SSSSS____AAA____UU___UU_SS_______AAAAA___UU___UU_SS_______AAAAA___UU___UU__SSSSS__AA___AA__UU___UU__SSSSS__AA___AA__UU___UU______SS_AAAAAAA__UU___UU______SS_AAAAAAA___UUUUU___SSSSS_AA____AA___UUUUU___SSSSS_AA____AAJ.C. Dento> prime example of why america will never be a world super power.Moscato> d1 is mad he will never have a job outside subspaceI can't see this because I turned signatures off. ps VT
🜲 PoLiX Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 That said, I don't know why you think it'll make or break it. Most newbies don't get scared away from software that can't handle 100 players. They get scared away because it's ASSS.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's a given fact, most newbs copy their favorite zone. Think bout it, if EG or TW Announced they were going ASSS, then so would a lot of smaller zones just so they could say they use the same thing as them. But if they hear that EG and TW won't use it cause it can't support them, then it will make some people look less upon it, and turn away from it. I'm not saying it'll make or break it, I'm just saying it will decide which will become to more dominant server software. The more dominant one will obviously get more support from client updates and other software. SSForum.net - September 01, 2002 - Rowen (SSDownloads.Com), PoLiX (SSCentral.Com), and Cyberise (Subspace.Net)
Yupa Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 If _anybody_ does something like that, I will personally !@#$%^&* them up. Now, once again - ASSS will be the more dominant, because it has a great deal of potential and subgame has next to none.
★ SOS Posted March 2, 2005 Author Report Posted March 2, 2005 But I will still think very badly of ASSS in the end
Dr Brain Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 It's fine with me if other zones don't use ASSS. It'll just take that much longer for them to catch up to me when I go back online. Freedom is the right to be wrong.
Yupa Posted March 3, 2005 Report Posted March 3, 2005 Yes, but it would not be fine if Pointman and Zeus and those EG guys publically announced something like "!@#$%^&*S bites, so we're not going to use it after all".
Grelminar Posted March 3, 2005 Report Posted March 3, 2005 I'm a little confused. I've seen the !@#$%^&*ertion repeated that "!@#$%^&*s can't support large zones", but nobody's explained why. Perhaps it's not the easiest piece of software to configure although I could argue it's no harder than subgame, it's just that people are used to subgame). But that's not really a problem for larger zones, just small ones with limited staff and expertise. I think the main reason large zones haven't adopted it is because they've invested a lot of time in their bots and their current serving infrastructure, and it would be too much effort to switch. That's a valid reason, although I should point out that recent releases include a "sgcompat" module that should allow most bots to work with no modification. If I'm wrong about the reason, though, I'd appreciate if someone actually told me, so that perhaps I could help address it.
★ SOS Posted March 3, 2005 Author Report Posted March 3, 2005 Hmm, so it is just hearsay? Well that's a relief then. I was rather surprised at hearing it did not support larger zones - it might be ugly but it certainly seemed powerful enough. ASSS needs a marketing team
Raem Posted March 3, 2005 Report Posted March 3, 2005 Maybe people get that impression because its "A Small Subspace Server"?
★ LtNirvana Posted March 3, 2005 Report Posted March 3, 2005 ASSS is far too unrealistic to ever be implemented. It would take far too much effort to change something that does not need to be changed. The most I see coming out of ASSS is it being on dead zones for the rest of its existance. Why are we trying to fix something that isnt broken. There is no real need to completely trash the current server software and add in some "magical" ASSS software that will fix every known problem in ss. It wont. As far as I'm concerned the things ASSS does are not major enough to change my zone, or to convince any other zone for that matter to convert to ASSS. It is far too much work for a community basically run by very few compitent people in the first place. I'm not attacking the software, but I think people should probably stop wasting time with it. Desert Storm forever. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/NirvanaMan88/53308367.png
Dr Brain Posted March 3, 2005 Report Posted March 3, 2005 I'm a little confused. I've seen the !@#$%^&*ertion repeated that "!@#$%^&*s can't support large zones", but nobody's explained why. Perhaps it's not the easiest piece of software to configure although I could argue it's no harder than subgame, it's just that people are used to subgame). But that's not really a problem for larger zones, just small ones with limited staff and expertise. I think the main reason large zones haven't adopted it is because they've invested a lot of time in their bots and their current serving infrastructure, and it would be too much effort to switch. That's a valid reason, although I should point out that recent releases include a "sgcompat" module that should allow most bots to work with no modification. If I'm wrong about the reason, though, I'd appreciate if someone actually told me, so that perhaps I could help address it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Perhaps you've forgotten the lag coma bug? It's still around when you get about 35 players per arena. This prevents larger zones from hosting big events. Also, some zones have their players per arena cap set higher than 35. Freedom is the right to be wrong.
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