Ye Land of Olde? I hope not

[Incomplete]

This isn't a BOT though, it's the future of 17th. Alot of people don't want the settings adjusted, they want the old settings back.

[StockholmSyndrome]

I would just to say to some people, yes my experiance in 17th is limited, but upon continuum it isn't. In fact my years on this game out number yours. This doesn't mean i'm better or have more experiance in everything but unlike someone who say has played continuum for a lesser time and noly in one or two zones, your opinion yes is the same as mine but your knowledge of what is right sometimes can be lacking, but of course, everyone has a right to speak.

 

Vote bot should not go up for a few weeks. If it had gone up yesterday it would of been spammed with !vote no. People don't like changes - that is a fact. People become used to a routine and prefer to stick to it. Unfortunantly this means that 17th will have less players to pull in over time unless something was done. Therefore a change was needed, it was applied to the zone and at least a weeks testing is needed before any sort of vote is put down.

 

Upon comments on the warbird, I... hmmm... I feel I will get used to it. By the way it plays it seems less of a inner basing ship now. More centralized upon the out skirts of base, just inside base and in the centre, the warbird's aimshave changed which makes it strange to play in a balling game. It seems weaker, maybe it is with the drop of 150 energy but I never felt it did need a change, it was balanced in my eyes compared to the other sets. Yet I suppose a tweaking change was needed to comply with the other sets and so this is what has happened.

 

The map I stand by as being better. Maybe it does need to be changed to east and west but at the moment, bringing the bases in to the centre more is the only thing I would advise with Sever's words.

 

In all truth, don't complain on the new things like this. This is much different to a movable flag game or KOTH. It's the zone's iden!@#$%^&*y as mentioned; but if this is the old map surely it is MORE linked to what the zone should be like and in fact was.

 

Things will need to be changed upon sets and such, take that in to consideration but how about playing around with all ships, exploring the map and getting a feel of this new 17th without any negative vibes before you pick up on if you like it.

 

Two final notes:

~Terrier needs changing. It has been said many times

~Levithan does need some sort of movement increase via portals and rockets.

[»Maverick]

This isn't a BOT though, it's the future of 17th. Alot of people don't want the settings adjusted, they want the old settings back.

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You aren't that bright are you? The 2v2bot was only serving as an example. Read the post and understand it prior to responding to it.

[Tex]

I love the new wb, terr and weasel. All the other ships should have remained the same. Overall these are better sets.

 

The map can't last more than a few days i'm hoping. I don't know how well these sets would fit the previous map but one thing Telson could try with this one is to bring the bases closer together making a much smaller centre where only the ball spawns. Then to the west and east players would spawn either in safeties or their own little areas. As it is currently the baseplay is less-existent than it was because the bases are so out of the action.

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ROFL! ROFL! WB????? This morning I used all my bullets (with bounce) to try to kill X` and he hit me with 1 bomb and killed me!

 

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

[Tex]

And I thought Maverick quit SS?

 

Is he back?

[Incomplete]

I know it's an example but you're talking about something totally different

[redhotchilipeppers_chick]

Well since i havent said anything i'll say something now.

 

*Shrugs*

 

I unno?

 

I THINK i liked the old one better but then again i hadnt played for 2 months blablabla.

 

*shrugs again*

[AndurilFlameoftheWest]

Going back to my post i simply meant that you cant just change things in one fail swoop and that people for the most part dont like to have things sprung upon them. Its like wanting that hot shower but you are surprised when all the hot water is gone. My ship is fine now and i find the other leviathan drivers will find its suitable, i commend vile for making the change back. In regards to reading literature, we read left to right. You left out the vital meat of that statement. Unless you read vertically then i dont see what the fallacy is with that statement. My only problem is now is with the north to south bases and i seriously doubt the players in the early days came just to admire the north and south bases, hence there was the change to east to west. I had to ask Vile why the changes were made and he explained and i somewhat understood and i wish that what he said would be explained to pub in general beforehand to ease tensions and hostilities.

[Zakalwe!]

The general consensus seems that that the map is 50:50 i for one am not really bothered because i havent tried bases out much, i dont care if its north/south // east/west as long as its good

 

My main problem is this new terrier - i have tried it out against every new ship, 1 on 1 with the same person

 

Warbird - lost easily

Jav - managed to draw

Spider - uncloaked and lost 3 times to it lol

Levi - charging to kill 50:50 chance

Terrier - fought for 10 minutes, neither of us died, shows u what a defensive lamer ship this is....a fluke to kill...lol pitiful

Weasel - mines kill it, cant hit weasel with bomb too slow, guns dont kill it.

Lancaster - lost to it 3,1 but id say 50:50

Shark - cloaked, not a chance, uncloaked terrier wins.

 

proposed course of action - bring back old terrier, faster bombs might make it balance out, give it 1500 energy, weasel should be killed by terriers, balancing weasel.

 

People dont like the terrier becos its got loads of energy, and goes around laming people - i agree

 

its a fluke to kill, its boring, slow, and defensive.

 

Bring back normal terrier and keep rest of ships, then see how things work out. Map not bothered.

[Arianax]

I do have to say, the energy consumption on that baby's (terr) guns is a !@#$%^&*. another note, Levi thrust is stupid, take it off.

[Incomplete]

Zak, I suggest you try using another ship then

[redhotchilipeppers_chick]

Oh man, I went to the map for the 1st time today

 

Plain and simple

 

I HATE IT.

[PullTripSquid]

i need help

[PullTripSquid]

i have a solution, lets all be terr! EZ PLZ GG PWNED 100-0 GFG PWNT

[axius]

lolol ice

[AndurilFlameoftheWest]

haha that ice returns chu chu quote in your signature ax cracks me up...thats the most funny thing ive seen in a while.

[La Muerta Rosa]

I dont think one hit kills have any place in this zone (lack of one hit kills is pretty much why i play here), i urge you to reconsider the weasel mine.

[The Maurauder]

First off, im glad to at least see some change. It shows that the upper staff have finally taken a hinto to the steady decrease in pop and have decided to do something about it. I like the settings change overall, but i do not like the new Terrier as much as the one we had until recently. One reason is that i have recently witnessed multiple people placing all their mines in one spot with a decoy over them. Although this could be done in the other Terrier, this strategy rarely produced kills. Now however, a lame kill is produced 99% of teh time. As for the map, i have mixed feelings as well. It is good for a change, but i just don't see it working permanently. The pases aren't the same and therefore there are slight advantages to certain frequencies. Also, the flag play is now even less intertwined with the ball game. I like change, but certain things need to go back.

[DaKillaRoach]

I never saw the map around naed's house

 

Someone put it up on the forum!

 

It sounds like the T-o sets though. I quite liked them, ESPECIALLY the weasel. Guess who came up with the idea of the one hit kill mine for the weasel? ME! HAHAHEHEHDHAHAHAHAHSFDHSDHAhaha... H4H...

 

I love Vile for putting that in. Letting my legacy continue while i'm away.

 

The one hit mine has skill - you just have to use it properly. It was suppose to be a basers ship while retaining the ability to take on a Javelin and win through smarter moves. Afterall, we know how smart you Americans are!

 

The weasel in T-O was designed from what I knew to once again rise to the power of the Javelin annoyance and provide valuable support. JUST LIKE OLD WEASEL! ^_^

[Zakalwe!]

Incomplete - no

 

All i thought was that the old settings were balanced apart from the weasel. Why dont we try the normal settings with this new weasel.

 

O can we try having multiple frequencies one time, can we put a week aside for it, 3/4 teams of 5v5v5v5 would be good fun. Hard but fun. Portals would become from useful, like swr super shark bursts? Anyhow...not now but later.

[Incomplete]

If we go back to the old settings and map then our population will be low again so when you enter and it is 1v1, you'll leave for another zone.

 

 

VooDooLord> wanna do to trench?

VooDooLord> err go

T0MAHAWK_B> i guess

VooDooLord> we can weasel

T0MAHAWK_B> im not that great in trench

T0MAHAWK_B> i've played a lil though

T0MAHAWK_B> lets go

VooDooLord> better than here

 

See?

[The Maurauder]

DKR, It's not exactly old TO, things changed. Weasel has lv2 bullets, and terr is back the way it was a LONG time ago.

[Arianax]

I'm not sure about that, i think the nrg on the bullets mayt be a tad higher, i dunno, it was a long time since i played in it, but it does have boundless potential

[Greased_Lightning]

in a week i'll be able to make a better decision on this change when im back for a weekend on a comp w/o as bad lag but I do like the map from old cuz it focuses people more on killing than on the ball game I mean for those who remember...Remember the good old days on this map with the old sets? ah... nostalgia

 

I'll keep commenting on your comments cuz thats the way I am but not now, its time for 24... on FOX! (ADVERTISEMENT) BAN ME

[axius]

http://cubahillcrestusd455.com/images/screenshot20.jpg

(and yes that is the whole player list...)

 

 

Does this look like "saved from death" to you? 3v4 at 8pm CST? You call that "INTERESTING"?!?!? I think not. Pfft this is a change alright

 

A change for the worse.....