Looking for long-gone post (re AMD, bios, motherboard)

Mr Ekted · September 9, 2003

Someone once posted a nice message about a problem with a certain motherboard/AMD combination causing all sorts of clock/FPS/lag issues, which was fixed with a certain BIOS upgrade. Does anyone have this info?

ExplodyThingy · September 10, 2003

If it was on the old forums, check old.ssforum.net, though i assume you knew that.

September 25, 2003

I didn't post anything about it, I don't think, but I do have the AMD/BIOS/Motherboard lag issue. .37 was completely terrible. Everyone's relative ping (Ping in the brackets beside their names) would start out normal, then gradually increase until it got to 900+ms. Nothing is wrong with my FPS or with my ingame clock.

On the other hand, DoCk> let me use .38 pr1-5, and only pr5 fixed the problem partly, and of course when .39 pr1 was released, the problem was still mostly resolved. The relative ping of people do change quite a lot, but never exceed 250-300ms ping, one they reach that high, it gradually goes back down to the normal 30-90 I'm used to seeing.

Since you probably need a few details of the machine it affects, I'll post it below:

System

Processor

Model : AMD Athlon XP 2400+

Speed : 2.00GHz

Model Number : 2400 (estimated)

Performance Rating : PR2896 (estimated)

Type : Standard

L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back

Mainboard

Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus

MP Support : No

MP APIC : No

System BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. 3.03

Mainboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. A7N8X-LA

Total Memory : 447MB

Chipset 1

Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 AGP Controller

Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz data rate)

Video System

Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor

Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600

Physical Storage Devices

Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive

Hard Disk : QUANTUM FIREBALLlct20 20

Hard Disk : SAMSUNG SV8004H

Hard Disk : eUSB Compact Flash USB Device

Hard Disk : eUSB SD-MS-SM USB Device

CD-ROM/DVD : JLMS XJ-HD166S

CD-ROM/DVD : SONY CD-RW CRX215E5

Logical Storage Devices

1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : N/A

Hard Disk (C:) : 74.6GB (54.2GB, 73% Free) (NTFS)

Multimedia (D:) : 19.0GB (11.2GB, 59% Free) (NTFS)

CD-ROM/DVD (E:) : N/A

CD-ROM/DVD (F:) : N/A

Removable Drive (G:) : N/A

Removable Drive (H:) : N/A

Peripherals

Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 2 COM / 1 LPT

USB Controller/Hub : Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller

USB Controller/Hub : Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller

USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub

USB Controller/Hub : General Purpose USB Hub

USB Controller/Hub : USB M!@#$%^&* Storage Device

FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub : OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

Human Interface : HID-compliant device

Human Interface : HID-compliant game controller

Human Interface : USB Human Interface Device

MultiMedia Device(s)

Device : NVIDIA® nForce Audio Codec Interface

Mainboard

Manufacturer : ASUSTeK Computer INC.

MP Support : No

Model : A7N8X-LA

Version : 1.04

Serial Number : X312345678

System BIOS : 63-0303-000001-00101111-030403-nFORCE

Chipset 1

Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 AGP Controller

Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus

Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz data rate)

Width : 64-bit

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks

Power Save Mode : No

Fixed Hole Present : No

Environment Monitor 1

Model : ITE IT8705/12 ISA

Mainboard Specific Support : No

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1

Version : 2.00

Speed : 4x

Fast-Writes Enabled : Yes

Side Band Enabled : Yes

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1

Version : 2.20

Number of Bridges : 2

PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1x PCIClk)

PCI Bus 1 : PCI (1x PCIClk)

LPC Hub Controller 1

Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 ISA Bridge

ACPI Power Management Enabled : No

Random Number Generator Enabled : No

USB Controller 1

Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 OHCI USB Controller

Version : 1.00

OHCI Interface : Yes

Channels : 3

Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2

Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 OHCI USB Controller

Version : 1.00

OHCI Interface : Yes

Channels : 3

Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3

Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller

Version : 2.00

Specification : 1.00

EHCI Interface : Yes

Channels : 6

Companion Controllers : 2

Addressing Support : 32-bit

Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

FireWire/1394 Controller 1

Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 FireWire Controller

Version : 1.10

OHCI Interface : Yes

Enhanced Support : Yes

Channels : 64

Speed : 400MHz

System SMBus Controller 1

Model : nVidia MCP2 B0 SMBus

Version : 0A.02

Slave Device Enabled : No

System SMBus Controller 2

Model : nVidia MCP2 B1 SMBus

Version : 0A.02

Slave Device Enabled : No

Expansion Slot(s)

AGP : AGP-4x 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Used

PCI1 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Available (ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 ISA Bridge)

PCI2 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Used (ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 OHCI USB Controller)

PCI3 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Available

Port Connector

J1A1 - PS2Mouse : Mouse - None / PS/2

J1A1 - Keyboard : Keyboard - None / PS/2

J2A2 - USB1 : USB - None / USB

J2A2 - USB2 : USB - None / USB

J4A1 - LPT 1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - None / DB-25 pin male

J2A1 - COM A : Serial Port 16550A - None / DB-9 pin male

J6A1 - Audio Mic In : Audio - None / Mini-jack

J6A1 - Audio Line In : Audio - None / Mini-jack

J6B1 - AUX IN : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None

J6B2 - CDIN : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None

J6J2 - PRI IDE : None - ATA / None

J6J1 - SEC IDE : None - ATA / None

J4J1 - FLOPPY : None - Floppy Disk / None

J9H1 - FRONT PNL : None - 9 Pin Dual Inline / None

J1B1 - CH!@#$%^&*IS REAR FAN : None - None / None

J2F1 - CPU FAN : None - None / None

J8B4 - FRONT FAN : None - None / None

J9G2 - FNT USB : None - None / None

J6C3 - FP AUD : None - None / None

J9G1 - CONFIG : None - None / None

J8C1 - SCSI LED : None - None / None

J9J2 - INTRUDER : None - None / None

J9G4 - ITP : None - None / None

J2H1 - MAIN POWER : None - None / None

Few more things

Processor

Model : AMD Athlon XP 2400+

Co-Processor (FPU) : Built-in

Speed : 2.00GHz

Model Number : 2400 (estimated)

Performance Rating : PR2896 (estimated)

Type : Standard

Package : Socket A PGA

Multiplier : 15/1x

Generation : 7 (7x86)

Name : Duron M8 & Athlon MP/XP (Thoroughbred) 1.5-2.5GHz+ 1.5-1.65V

Revision/Stepping : 8 / 1 (0)

Stepping Mask : B0

Core Voltage Rating : 1.650V

Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 34-bit / 32-bit

Part Number : To Be Filled By O.E.M.

!@#$%^&*et Tag : To Be Filled By O.E.M.

Serial Number : To Be Filled By O.E.M.

Processor Cache(s)

Internal Data Cache : 64kB Synchronous Write-Back (2-way sectored, 64 byte line size)

Internal Instruction Cache : 64kB Synchronous Write-Back (2-way, 64 byte line size)

L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size)

L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (1997MHz)

Upgradeability

Socket/Slot : CPU 1

Upgrade Interface : Slot A

Supported Speed(s) : 2.00GHz+

Environment Monitor 1

Model : ITE IT8705/12 ISA

Mainboard Specific Support : No

Power Rating(s)

CPU Core Power : 355W (estimated)

Sensors

CPU Voltage : 4.08V

Features

FPU - Co-Processor Built-in : Yes

VME - Virtual Mode Extensions : Yes

DE - Debugging Extension : Yes

PSE - Page Size Extension : Yes

TSC - Time Stamp Counter : Yes

MSR - Model Specific Registers : Yes

PAE - Physical Address Extension : Yes

MCE - Machine Check Exception : Yes

CX8 - Compare & Exchange Instruction : Yes

APIC - Local APIC Built-in : Yes

SEP - Fast System Call : Yes

MTRR - Memory Type Range Registers : Yes

PGE - Page Global Enable : Yes

MCA - Machine Check Architecture : Yes

PAT - Page Attribute Table : Yes

PSE36 - 36-bit Page Size Extension : Yes

PSN - Unique Serial Number : No

CLF - Cache Line Flush Support : No

DS - Debug Trace & EMON Store : No

ACPI - Software Clock Control : No

MMX Technology : Yes

FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore : Yes

SSE Technology : Yes

SSE2 Technology : No

SS - Self Snoop : No

HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

TM - Thermal Monitor : No

SBF - Signal Break on FERR : No

SSE3 Technology : No

MON - Monitor/MWait : No

DSCPL - CPL qualified Debug Store : No

TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 : No

EST - Enhanced SpeedStep Technology : No

CID - Context ID : No

DAZ - Denormals Are Zero : No

Extended Features

SYCR - Extended Fast System Call : Yes

EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes

3DNow! Technology : Yes

Extended 3DNow! Technology : Yes

SMP - MP Capability : No

Power Management Features

VID - Voltage Control : No

FID - Frequency Control : No

TS - Thermal Sensor Built-in : Yes

Advanced Settings

TLB Cacheable : Yes

System Ack Limit : 8 request(s)

System Victim Limit : 0 request(s)

Extended MTRR Types : Yes

I/O Type Range Registers : Yes

Machine Check Architecture Settings

Number of Reporting Banks : 4 bank(s)

Exception Reporting Control Support : Yes

Variable Range MTRR Settings

MTRR 0 : 00000000-0FFFFFFF (0MB-256MB) WB

MTRR 1 : 10000000-17FFFFFF (256MB-384MB) WB

MTRR 2 : 18000000-1BFFFFFF (384MB-448MB) WB

Variable Range IORR Settings

IORR 1 : F8000000-FBFFFFFF (3968MB-4032MB) rdMem wrMem

Fixed Range MTRR Settings

MTRR 0 Range 0 : 00000000-0000FFFF (0kB-64kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 0 Range 1 : 00010000-0001FFFF (64kB-128kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 0 Range 2 : 00020000-0002FFFF (128kB-192kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 0 Range 3 : 00030000-0003FFFF (192kB-256kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 0 Range 4 : 00040000-0004FFFF (256kB-320kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 0 Range 5 : 00050000-0005FFFF (320kB-384kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 0 Range 6 : 00060000-0006FFFF (384kB-448kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 0 Range 7 : 00070000-0007FFFF (448kB-512kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 1 Range 0 : 00080000-00083FFF (512kB-528kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 1 Range 1 : 00084000-00087FFF (528kB-544kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 1 Range 2 : 00088000-0008BFFF (544kB-560kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 1 Range 3 : 0008C000-0008FFFF (560kB-576kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 1 Range 4 : 00090000-00093FFF (576kB-592kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 1 Range 5 : 00094000-00097FFF (592kB-608kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 1 Range 6 : 00098000-0009BFFF (608kB-624kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 1 Range 7 : 0009C000-0009FFFF (624kB-640kB) WB rdIO wrIO

MTRR 2 Range 0 : 000A0000-000A3FFF (640kB-656kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 2 Range 1 : 000A4000-000A7FFF (656kB-672kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 2 Range 2 : 000A8000-000ABFFF (672kB-688kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 2 Range 3 : 000AC000-000AFFFF (688kB-704kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 2 Range 4 : 000B0000-000B3FFF (704kB-720kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 2 Range 5 : 000B4000-000B7FFF (720kB-736kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 2 Range 6 : 000B8000-000BBFFF (736kB-752kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 2 Range 7 : 000BC000-000BFFFF (752kB-768kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 3 Range 0 : 000C0000-000C0FFF (768kB-772kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 3 Range 1 : 000C1000-000C1FFF (772kB-776kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 3 Range 2 : 000C2000-000C2FFF (776kB-780kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 3 Range 3 : 000C3000-000C3FFF (780kB-784kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 3 Range 4 : 000C4000-000C4FFF (784kB-788kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 3 Range 5 : 000C5000-000C5FFF (788kB-792kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 3 Range 6 : 000C6000-000C6FFF (792kB-796kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 3 Range 7 : 000C7000-000C7FFF (796kB-800kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 4 Range 0 : 000C8000-000C8FFF (800kB-804kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 4 Range 1 : 000C9000-000C9FFF (804kB-808kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 4 Range 2 : 000CA000-000CAFFF (808kB-812kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 4 Range 3 : 000CB000-000CBFFF (812kB-816kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 4 Range 4 : 000CC000-000CCFFF (816kB-820kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 4 Range 5 : 000CD000-000CDFFF (820kB-824kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 4 Range 6 : 000CE000-000CEFFF (824kB-828kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 4 Range 7 : 000CF000-000CFFFF (828kB-832kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 5 Range 0 : 000D0000-000D0FFF (832kB-836kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 5 Range 1 : 000D1000-000D1FFF (836kB-840kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 5 Range 2 : 000D2000-000D2FFF (840kB-844kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 5 Range 3 : 000D3000-000D3FFF (844kB-848kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 5 Range 4 : 000D4000-000D4FFF (848kB-852kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 5 Range 5 : 000D5000-000D5FFF (852kB-856kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 5 Range 6 : 000D6000-000D6FFF (856kB-860kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 5 Range 7 : 000D7000-000D7FFF (860kB-864kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 6 Range 0 : 000D8000-000D8FFF (864kB-868kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 6 Range 1 : 000D9000-000D9FFF (868kB-872kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 6 Range 2 : 000DA000-000DAFFF (872kB-876kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 6 Range 3 : 000DB000-000DBFFF (876kB-880kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 6 Range 4 : 000DC000-000DCFFF (880kB-884kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 6 Range 5 : 000DD000-000DDFFF (884kB-888kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 6 Range 6 : 000DE000-000DEFFF (888kB-892kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 6 Range 7 : 000DF000-000DFFFF (892kB-896kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 7 Range 0 : 000E0000-000E0FFF (896kB-900kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 7 Range 1 : 000E1000-000E1FFF (900kB-904kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 7 Range 2 : 000E2000-000E2FFF (904kB-908kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 7 Range 3 : 000E3000-000E3FFF (908kB-912kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 7 Range 4 : 000E4000-000E4FFF (912kB-916kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 7 Range 5 : 000E5000-000E5FFF (916kB-920kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 7 Range 6 : 000E6000-000E6FFF (920kB-924kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 7 Range 7 : 000E7000-000E7FFF (924kB-928kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 8 Range 0 : 000E8000-000E8FFF (928kB-932kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 8 Range 1 : 000E9000-000E9FFF (932kB-936kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 8 Range 2 : 000EA000-000EAFFF (936kB-940kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 8 Range 3 : 000EB000-000EBFFF (940kB-944kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 8 Range 4 : 000EC000-000ECFFF (944kB-948kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 8 Range 5 : 000ED000-000EDFFF (948kB-952kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 8 Range 6 : 000EE000-000EEFFF (952kB-956kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 8 Range 7 : 000EF000-000EFFFF (956kB-960kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 9 Range 0 : 000F0000-000F0FFF (960kB-964kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 9 Range 1 : 000F1000-000F1FFF (964kB-968kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 9 Range 2 : 000F2000-000F2FFF (968kB-972kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 9 Range 3 : 000F3000-000F3FFF (972kB-976kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 9 Range 4 : 000F4000-000F4FFF (976kB-980kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 9 Range 5 : 000F5000-000F5FFF (980kB-984kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 9 Range 6 : 000F6000-000F6FFF (984kB-988kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 9 Range 7 : 000F7000-000F7FFF (988kB-992kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 10 Range 0 : 000F8000-000F8FFF (992kB-996kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 10 Range 1 : 000F9000-000F9FFF (996kB-1000kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 10 Range 2 : 000FA000-000FAFFF (1000kB-1004kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 10 Range 3 : 000FB000-000FBFFF (1004kB-1008kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 10 Range 4 : 000FC000-000FCFFF (1008kB-1012kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 10 Range 5 : 000FD000-000FDFFF (1012kB-1016kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 10 Range 6 : 000FE000-000FEFFF (1016kB-1020kB) UC rdIO wrIO

MTRR 10 Range 7 : 000FF000-000FFFFF (1020kB-1024kB) UC rdIO wrIO

PAT Settings

PAT 0 : WB

PAT 1 : WC

PAT 2 : UC-

PAT 3 : UC

PAT 4 : WB

PAT 5 : WC

PAT 6 : UC-

PAT 7 : UC

_____________________________________

If you need anything else, just let me know. But I think this'll do you good for now. ;P

»nintendo64 · September 25, 2003

It was the VIA Motherboard with the AMD Athlon that caused the problem with the graphics card, i believe NVidia Geforce Series or maybe ATI Radeon Series.

-nintendo64

September 26, 2003

Going to upgrade my BIOS from 1.04 to 1.08 tomorrow, probably. Hopefully that is the fix for it. If not, I'll post a reply/edit this post saying whether it was a success or a failure.

September 26, 2003

Well, that was an obvious failure because the Flash Memory program isn't supported by Windows XP and I can't get a command prompt except booting into Safe Mode with Command prompt. Horrah!

October 2, 2003

You need a windows 98 boot disk to boot your pc to dos then perform the flash up date.

Mr Ekted · October 3, 2003

http://bootdisk.com/

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