Do you like the movable flag in pub?

[GhettoSmurf]

is there still a votebot? idk how affective that was, but it would make more sence since so few people who play visit the forums.

[Rifleman]

is there still a votebot? idk how affective that was, but it would make more sence since so few people who play visit the forums.

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We had a votebot which worked, but it had a bug where players entering the arena for the 3rd time after the vote was set up, could vote again.

I haven`t looked at the code yet, but it will eventually be revived.

 

As for the bot that fixes a few side-effects for the flaggame.. here`s what`s done and is going to be done :

 

Implemented :

-grants bounty back to players who lose it for 2 sec after a flag victory

-restores original ship status after a flag victory

-settings-independant, bot will work whetever ship settings are changed or not

 

Todo :

-Fix flag game granting players of the winning team a bounty of 0->9000 at a flag victory. (Discovered today).

 

The updated bot is expected to be in place asap, as in 12-48 hours if it is possible to do.

The if depends on whetever my idea for the fix is correct, which it may or may not be.

Stay tuned

 

Possible drawbacks :

-If BOT>ScoreBot goes down, all the flag bugs will happen at flag game end.

-If BOT>ScoreBot is very laggy, it might take a few more seconds to get your items/bounce back.

 

 

-Rifle

[Delic]

Explody wins the grand prize of 5 chocolate chip cookies made by Telson HER>self.

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ROFL. That never gets old.

 

HER>Telson.

[AndurilFlameoftheWest]

12 - no 8 - yes. and yes get that vote bot fixed.

[kentbrockman]

something like this, didnt log it

 

kentbrockman> Didnt nahd just have the ball? how did wabbit score?

vile> no, thats a flag

kentbrockman> oh, thats what that was on the forums..

kentbrockman> !@#$%^&*, that needs to go.

vile> well go complain about it on the forums. thats what their there for.

kentbrockman> but then some smod will quit saying we complain too much

[AndurilFlameoftheWest]

Yeh i am pretty sure i just had 10000 bounty...which !@#$%^&*ed up any chance of having a valid chance of the bounty record. Oh well at least i hear that the records are being reset tomorrow so !@#$%^&*uming this flagging thing is going to stay which it seems like it will even though the poll is favored towards not having moveable flags at least i wont be stressing out over tryin to get the rec and start fresh.

[Delic]

Okay I'll give my opnion about this.

 

I think this attempt like almost every attempt to change something is completely pointless and a waste of time.

 

Hint to Staff: Think deeper... think... more about the.. gameplay as a whole..

 

Whahaa why do I even bother, you'll still be doing the exact same things over and over again!

 

And in the end, nothing really changes for the better, it just ends up as one big mess, back to where we started from.

[The Maurauder]

My opinion is to put the flags back in bases, but to spread them out. I am thinking 12 per base (Don't freak out though!), but the further you go into the base, the more flags there are. For example there would be 2 near entrance, then 4, then 6 near goal. The further the enemy pushed into the base, the more flags they got, thus making the defense of bases more crucial. If this setup was used, the flagging game would be seamlessly integrated with the ball game.

[BeWaRe]

Its fine how it is. Flags in the bases = newbs never touch em, so you have 2 people trying to hold flags. Just like north base, the people that never flagged were the ones that hated it, and they still dont flag now that its gone.

 

The world changes.

[StockholmSyndrome]

Ok, I've played the flag games a few times now and feel a want to comment upon this more.

 

Your sets and your map are not developed for everything you have going on.

 

You have a map based mainly upon balling yet you wish to include turf flags as was the old description of the zone. Make your mind up of what you really want - flags or balling? Because balling is currently the main focus of the main. If you want to fling a few flags in to keep that old style turf, do so in suitable places.

 

I like the changes of the map, you seem to want to make progress upon the balling and the development of a more interesting zone. So why side track yourself with !bountyrecords and movable flags?

 

If you want that, then change your map! Accomadate your changes, not try and develop something that adds more confusion to the map.

 

This would be a good time to comment on also either finalising your sets or moving onto a completely different set because from my view, they don't fit in well. Some ships seem finished, others do not, yet all these also lend to the problem of them not all working with the flagging.

 

Earlier on my team lost a flagging game against a bunch of cloaked weasels. There is one an unbalance there. Plently more reside in your map and settings - fix then, work together as staff and player and maybe you might come out with a zone that seems more maturely developed.

 

Also, hey thanks Mmav for the really brief chat we had about the zone lol!

[AndurilFlameoftheWest]

Well the bounty recs were not reset and the flag is still in pub, what was this poll for if no staff are going to look at it?

[Tex]

The only thing that we are trying to accomplish is more population in pub.

 

Adding new minute things may help it.

 

If you have any suggestions, we are all ears to listen, but the fact is that 17th has been losing population and we need to find a way to get it higher.

 

Some new ideas that we try out such as the flagging is only going to help, not hurt.

 

And please do not say,"NO", to every new thing we try. Just keep an OPEN mind.

 

-Tex

[BeWaRe]

lol

[Delic]

Why are these newbs still allowed to talk? WHY?

 

"17th has been losing pop"

 

Aaaajajajajaja, horsepoop. There's always new people coming, it's like a rollercoaster, this is the way it's been for years, BUT SINCE YOU'RE NEW HERE YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT.

 

Shït, I don't blame you though, even all these oldies like sever never seem to learn anything either.

[AndurilFlameoftheWest]

If your trying to increase pub population why do you host when there are 6 people in pub? And do not deny it Tex cuz you have done it at least 3 times the past week. Your intentions are good but if you want to keep the pub population strong you dont take away from it every 10 minutes in some slim chance that you might be promoted to mod. Why is there this obsessive need to host host host. Its rediculous. If you want to increase pub population you dont focus on things out of pub, you focus ON pub. Stop making plastic surgery changes and actually do things IN pub that would increase interest. I hardly ever play events, the majority are jav events any way so i could care less. If you do news.txt to players who enter and set up special events that take place in pub you could increase the interest, make up a special ball game where the team that wins wins a butt load of points, use your imaginations. I remember like a year ago or possibly more than that when a person got like 5 kills in a row a green messsage would appear, So and So is on fire! or Blankety blank is gone cold! when they havent had a kill in a while. Instead of making obvious flagrant attempts to change bases change settings do things that actually make the player want to play and compete. You currently have 13 votes to 8 for no flag yet there is one, if you dont take the poll seriously then why run it? I dont give a !@#$%^&* about the length of this Post but you people need to stop pissing people off and do things that make pub enjoyable. IF you want any ideas i have a few but i would think that you all could think of some yourself.

 

finis.

[StockholmSyndrome]

A developed zone leads to a fun zone

[»Maverick]

Well the bounty recs were not reset and the flag is still in pub, what was this poll for if no staff are going to look at it?

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The poll will be looked at, but staff only does something with it when its announced that it is going to be done.

Since this poll has been started by The Maurauder (no offense, maur) I doubt there will be something done with it. Nonetheless, its always good to gain some feedback from the players as staff.

 

AndurilFlameoftheWest, you know where the Enter key is located at your keyboard? How about trying to use it more. Maybe then people actually read your post (more).

[Rifleman]

Bounty records are reset to the way they were before any flag game screwed them up.

Additionally, the 9k flag victory bug has been fixed.

 

Personally, I like the movable flag..

It gives those who are out 'just' to kill others a possibility to earn team points.

When the jackpot gets high (70k`ish), it will get proportionally more challenging to kill the flag carrier as more teammates protect him.

 

Who can say the old non-movable flags had more interest?

 

Flags in center - I like the idea, but I feel the flag fight would be a bit random.. only a test would show

 

KOTH back - Sure.. it was fun for a while, but I got tired of it very quickly when groups of cloakers popped out just to kill me :\

 

As for a 'spree-bot'.. it will be considered, but not likely implemented.

Yes, it is fun.. though it focuses on individual performance (killing), whereas I would like to keep 17th as a team zone.

 

Note : All opinions in my post do not represent all sysop opinions.

[kentbrockman]

arnt you the only sysop who plays, though?

[The Maurauder]

The moveable flag just doesnt fit in, its liek taking a flagging zone and putting a ball and goal in the middle...

[Tempest]

The moveable flag just doesnt fit in, its liek taking a flagging zone and putting a ball and goal in the middle...

Stop thinking about it as a flag game. Compare it to the old system- KotH. How does KotH fit into the ball game better than the flag? Surely that'd be like taking a duelling / killing zone and putting a ball and goal in the middle too? If you condemn the moveable flag game, at least consider if the same applies to KotH.

 

You currently have 13 votes to 8 for no flag yet there is one, if you dont take the poll seriously then why run it?

A few points to note: first, Maurauder created the thread. It isn't necessarily endorsed by staff as a whole. They certainly aren't obliged to take it into consideration. Think of this as a settings discussion thread, not a yes/no poll created by development for the sole purpose of evaluating the flag game.

[Delic]

Yawn, same old, same old.

 

This bullsh!t will go on forever.

 

The problem with this zone is the management.

 

They didn't listen to the players who knew what they were talking about 4 years ago, and they sure as !@#$%^&* won't start now.

 

If you really want to improve this zone then you have to start over and ask yourselves: "What can we give players that they can't find anywhere else?" instead of focusing on minor details that lead to nothing.

 

You're walking around in a circle, there's no progress here.

 

"Stop making plastic surgery changes and actually do things IN pub that would increase interest."

 

ALLLL you've done for the past 3 years has been "plastic surgery".

 

We could've had a zone that could've been called our own, but I really don't think that there's any hope left, it'll remain a nubi zone foreva. Just a playground for nubi sysops.

 

If it wasn't for pernille who manages to keep people in check.. this zone would.. be a lot worse..

 

AFK.

[AndurilFlameoftheWest]

Sorry this isn't English class this is a gaming forum its not required of me to use proper paragraph structure. I don't understand if you want to increase the population of pub you do more things in pub, you form a hype around it, you dont just throw in one nick here and one nick there hoping that people will by into it. It may have a temporary affect but your not going to maintain interest by these changes. The only way to get people into pub is to do events in pub, and it is the best pub from all the zones that i have been too briefly, why don't you utilize that to your advantage? The flag is an easy way out for those who dont want to ball. If the primary focus in the zone has been to ball, and balling in turn gives points then why dont you make balling the jackpot giver instead of an extra accsessory.

[The Maurauder]

[Samapico]

What I hate about the flag... it's that the only way to actually win the jackpot is to NOT KILL anyone for 5 minutes... (and , of course, not die) That means the only way to win it is to stay away from ball game and any source of action... That sucks.

The KOTH thing is much more fun, since you HAVE TO KILL people to keep your crown and win the jackpot... you could have the crown time increased a bit, pump up the KOTH jackpot so it can give good bonuses...

 

As the Leviathan King said, it would be great to have a bonus for winning ball game... As it is now, only goals you score give you points. So winning 5-0 and losing 7-5 will give you the same amount of points... A bonus should be implemented for winning the game.