Dav Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Its early but the start of the elction has states calling bush. A good website for the latest information http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/amer...tml/default.stm
»Ducky Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 I am gonna watch the daily show for this one.GO JOHN STEWART AND YOUR BLATANT LIBERAL SLANT.
Dav Posted November 3, 2004 Author Report Posted November 3, 2004 Things have now turned round a bit with kerry in the lead. Its too early to tell yet as everting is the same as last year.
A Soldier Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Go Kerry... Current results:Bush with 155 college votesKerry with 112 college votes
»Ducky Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 I am liberal, people have noticed. I don't take a stance on the election though as I don't like Kerry or Bush. I don't feel I "Need" To vote someone who is a lesser evil. That is absurd. I see Bush winning overall, but I am interested to see the final populus vote rather than electoral.
Dav Posted November 3, 2004 Author Report Posted November 3, 2004 popular votes should be the factor that gives the final result. Currently: 172 bush112 kerry
Aileron Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Ducky, ur an idiot There are two people here who will have meaningfull votes in high-value battleground states. You and I - both Pennsylvanians. If you didn't vote...then this forum has voted Republican. Its looking pretty good for Bush...he has a fairly solid lead in Ohio and Florida. If he carries those two states, the election is pretty much in the bag. Root for Kerry all you like, but if Bush carries Ohio and Florida you will be routing for a lost cause.
Dav Posted November 3, 2004 Author Report Posted November 3, 2004 thus far things look as though they will be the same as 2000
50% Packetloss Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Its pointless to keep track of the votes, just wait until the end. California alone has 55 electorial votes. Plus electorates dont have to vote for thier canidate, the point of the system is to allow them to select whoever they want (although its unlikely that they will excercise this privlage). You wont know who is going to win until most of the states have counted thier votes. Of right now, California polls are still open for 1 more min. So please shutup for 30 more seconds, idiots.
»Ducky Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Agreed, very much an idiot because I am not stuck on century year old traditional conservative bigotted views, and those that only want to appease the people who disagreed with the prior presidential term. Despite fancy wording and overthought "logic", You tend to throw out the most inane garbage more than most in this forum. If I prefer Yellow over Red and Blue, who in the world are you to tell me to choose between Red and Blue. You can wait for things to be broken all you want before mending, but you should fix and upgrade things before it breaks as soon as sign of tension is seen.Learn that if anything. Now if you would, begone and realize that it is your !@#$%^&*ty media views and spins that make people like me say !@#$%^&* you and your election. Oh Noes
50% Packetloss Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 I think this is the best website I've seen so far (for you people that dont want to use Flash) http://www.uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION...ecnighttime.php
Aileron Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 I didn't realise you voted third party. Democracy doesn't work if nobody votes. Thus, I do not nor ever will respect anyone for not voting. One of the few socialist laws I would support here is a law requiring citizens to vote.
50% Packetloss Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 I personally voted for this guy, http://badnarik.org/ , but there are a lot of kerry supporters in california so hopefully Michael got enough votes so that his party gets some government money next election, i believe they need 5% of the vote. Requiring people to vote would defeat the purpose of being free. The presidental portion of the ballot really wasn't that important to me; the propositions were most important. There are some scary !@#$%^&* people think up that gets on the ballot, a lot scarier than Bush or Kerry being elected. Im interested in that ballot measure that Alaska is voting on, allowing them to sell and smoke marijuana (!@#$%^&*uming you could grow anything up there, the place is one big ice cube). It seems to be working out for the neatherlands so Id like to see how it works out for a state.
Aileron Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Hence why I referred to it as a socialist law. It isn't very free...but also as I said...democracy doesn't work if people don't vote. While it infringes on some minor freedoms, such a law would create a more more effective goverment. This logic isn't good enough most of the time, but here...probably a good idea.
»Ducky Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Heh, Liberals are sure hoping that for some miracle reason, Ohio saves them. Don't see it happening though lol
Dav Posted November 3, 2004 Author Report Posted November 3, 2004 well this is very close, looks like it going to go bushes way though Im hoping for a miricle
»Ducky Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=floridavoting.wmv
Aileron Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 The funny thing is that the margin in Pennsylvania is smaller than in Ohio. Couple that with the voting machines and the 120% voter registration rate in Philadelphia, and I'd say PA is more up for grabs than Ohio.
»Ducky Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 It sure would be interesting. I can't take a local view of who would satisfy this areas needs better (Pittsburgh) because both candidates pour money into us.Bush has lent hand with numerous medical things and as past shows, the first lady takes care of her area also. I am hoping a win/win situation is in order for us specifically. IE, Teresa getting bored and helping the locals out
Paine Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 wanna tell me... the current standings? or who the !@#$%^&* won?
Yupa Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Kerry will be conceding. Bush set to remain in office another 4 years. Four more years of loss of rights, warmongering, oil profits, dissociation from international organizations, loss of allies, destruction of the environment, increasing deficits and generally idiotic propoganda.
Aileron Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 You make it sound like you are dissappointed. I spent the last couple weeks thinking of cruel comments to say at this moment, but just don't feel like writing them...you guys have been through enough. Well, put it this way...we get to look foward to Bush's Social Security plan...screw the seniors (who created the problem in the first place), but help us young people out.
50% Packetloss Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Well 59.1% of the population voted this election, with 96.8% precincts reporting so far. That is pretty !@#$%^&* good in my opinion. Hope i can directly link the image,http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Interactives/News/Politics/DECISION%202004/Voter_turnout_v2.gif But Bush wins, Kerry is giving up. Bush has the popular vote and is way ahead in Ohio and Texas. Presonally I think This had a lot to do with the current results, it is a very tempting proposition (i saw one on a car yesterday). But both canidates sucked so I cant complain with the results. Im looking at the california propositions currently, pretty much people in this state love taxes. But im not too concerned about that, mostly im concerned with prop 69 and 71 passing. Prop 69 allows for the police to store (in a database) DNA from people that are just ACCUSED of a crime. Id have no problem with it if they were convicted but collecting when they are accused is a !@#$%^&*ing joke. People in california just read what is on the ballot and never the actual proposition. Then prop 71, the idea is to fund stem cell research but reading into the proposition it proposes to fund more than that. Not only does it use bond money (telling you that the state doesnt want to pay for it right now, but later they want to pay it w/ intrest) but they are going to setup a government agency which will be the only en-*BAD WORD*-y that will be allowed to conduct research. After than these clowns are going to hire ethics buerecrats to decide what is ethical and what is not in the world of stem-cells. Then it bans human cloning in california, I guess to appease religious ASSS. So pretty much billions of dollers are going to a team of people that the government hires to !@#$%^&* around all day about the ethics of the research they wont be conducting. A better plan would have to setup a fund that donates money to corporations that are already researching the technology instead of setting up a stem-cell-castle for bull!@#$%^&*. I want to see embro, umbilical cord, and every other type of stem cell being used without any regulations, then maybe these docters can do thier job and bust out some cures. Pretty much the moral is that religion needs to get off california's nuts and people need to get more than a high school education. But hopefully it works out; If prop 71 is the only way that the job is going to get done then Ill praise the bill even though ill be paying out the !@#$%^&* for it later. Also Boxer got re-elected, that Indian-money taking -*BAD WORD*-. Buck McKeon is the representative in my city, he got re-elected, he isnt bad just I wanted to see the little guy win over him.
»Ducky Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 I thought it was funny to hear that the younger voters had the same turnout as they did in 00 despite wide speculation that there would be a dramatic increase. In other words, PUFFY THREATENED NO ONE
Bacchus Posted November 3, 2004 Report Posted November 3, 2004 Four more years of loss of rights, warmongering, oil profits, dissociation from international organizations, loss of allies, destruction of the environment, increasing deficits and generally idiotic propoganda That says it all. And Ail, cancelling one's vote is also a political process. In fact, it's very democratic to wisely choose "no options" over those proposed if they aren't representative of what you think. This is the basis of democracy...a law to have people vote...sigh.
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