talion Posted September 6, 2003 Report Posted September 6, 2003 Howdy everyone! I recently took over the updating of the ?go awards arena, and noticed that it's, ah, been some time since this mini-league occured. So, I'm going to bring it back! No signups are required, and the rules are really simple: "Each reset period, the top squad in terms of wins will get 100 points. Each squad ranked 2nd to 5th will be allocated a percentage of 100 points. What they get is a direct percentage of what their wins was divided by what the top squad had. Squads that do not place in the top 5 for 2 resets will be dropped from the league." The league lasts for 6 resets, or 12 weeks. It starts this Thursday (September 11, unfortunately enough). I'm aware of the discrepancies in squad sizes, but there's nothing that can fix that problem, as using the top5 pilots statistics doesn't encourage everyone getting involved. There is no official signup required. However, I will ask squads that place in the top 7 or 8 after the first reset to send me their roster size. This will be posted in the awards arena so that a squad with 50 people in it won't get the same praise for winning as a 15 player squad. The League MVP will be done the following way. Every reset, the top squad that reset will tell me their pick for MVP. They will have to submit it by FRIDAY (2000 GMT) after a reset or else I will pick someone based on what I see when I'm online. Hopefully we will have 6 different MVPs at the end of the season. To pick the overall League MVP, the squad leaders of the top 5 squads will sit down and vote for the League MVP from among the 6 winners of MVP awards already. I'm as yet unsure how this voting procedure will go, but in the event of a tie ntfx or I will cast the tiebreaking vote. The "miss top 5 for two resets and you're out" rule is to add a stronger element of compe!@#$%^&*ion. Since there's no playoffs or anything of that sort, I want to weed out the non-compe!@#$%^&*ive squads by the 4th or 5th reset. Contact me in game to ask me questions! Quote
Tipme Posted September 6, 2003 Report Posted September 6, 2003 oh no i better join a different squad Quote
kentbrockman Posted September 7, 2003 Report Posted September 7, 2003 kent squad... 50 members... already got most kills... yay talion, im against this though. this seems to promote killing in pub, rather than balling. i thought that was something YOU were trying to stop. Quote
talion Posted September 7, 2003 Author Report Posted September 7, 2003 kent I completely see where you're coming from, but my main concern when I picked kills over points was the fact that people use the ?Buy commands and therefore reduce their, and their squad's, point total. If I get enough people complaining about this I'll change it to points, or maybe some combination of points AND kills, although I'm sure I'll get a headache from that when it comes time to give out the league points. Kills never get reduced except by scoreresetting. If you have a problem with the kills over points issue, ?message me or PM me in game or post a message here. Quote
BlitzkriegStrike Posted September 7, 2003 Report Posted September 7, 2003 This is uber stupid. Ok check out my graph of stupidity:stupid: ====Mauruader: =========================This Idea: ======================================Settings Changes: =============================================== Quote
kentbrockman Posted September 7, 2003 Report Posted September 7, 2003 i like this idea that squads have some compe!@#$%^&*ion in pub, but just dont promote the killing. do it for points. if people ?buy crap, well then they paid for it with there squad ranks as well. simple as that. i understand people like to kill, and its ok that they do. but it musnt be promoted. it should be allowed, but not promoted. and i still want to play a good game for ballers only, get that started already would ya? Quote
Guest Toarn Posted September 7, 2003 Report Posted September 7, 2003 yea, im against this also, this is a balling arena. points are much better... Quote
BlitzkriegStrike Posted September 8, 2003 Report Posted September 8, 2003 IF people stop losing award possibilities due to ?buy, then they will buy bounce more, which will make it harder to ball so less people will do it. Also, when there's few people on, people will all base sit with bounce instead of balling. Quote
talion Posted September 8, 2003 Author Report Posted September 8, 2003 Well, I've been impressed by the amount of people who have told me their views on this since kent started spamming this link in all his chats (I exaggerate a bit, fine). I've retiled the soon to come awards map so that it includes points + kills. The new scoring system reads like this, provided net lets me, which I think he will: "Each reset period, the top squad in terms of wins will get 100 points. Each squad ranked 2nd to 5th will be allocated a percentage of 100 points. What they get is a direct percentage of what their wins was divided by what the top squad had. The same will be done with points. The two results will be added for a squad's point total for a reset period. Squads that do not place in the top 5 for 2 resets will be dropped from the league." Suppose your squad (Squad A) Gets 10000000 points (10mil) and 1000 kills. Not let's make a Squad B, making a two squad league. This squad finishes with 9000000 points and 1100 kills. Squad A's points would be 1st for points, and second for kills, or 100 + [ 100 * 1000 / 1100 ], or 190.909 repeating. Squad B's points would be 1st place for kills, and second for points, or 100 + [ 100 * 9000000 / 10000000 ], or 190.000. NOTICE: ALL DECIMAL VALUES WILL BE ROUNDED **DOWN** Those are only points for that one reset. I will do this every reset, adding points from every previous reset to give the running total. At the end of the season we'll have an overall winner. Keep it tuned here for further announcements if they become necessary. Quote
Tipme Posted September 8, 2003 Report Posted September 8, 2003 i all of a sudden care about this than sbl man i hate apple pie Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted September 12, 2003 Report Posted September 12, 2003 I dont like this... sorry but usually I would be up for things like this in other zones. It does in my opinion defeat the balling! and stop others trying to ball :-S Yesterday I went into 17th to have a quick ball game or two and suddenly I was being forced into killing people just to help out the squad win some pub killing trophie. It all seems a bit weird and pointless, but also it now means I cant reset after every death or 10 kills coz the squad 'needs' the kills?! I dont get the whole system myself, all I get is I gotta kill things and so that is putting pressure on myself and others in the squad to perform, and probably in some other squads? Its all a bit annoying now having the squad saying 'dont score reset!' 'Kill them to get more points' 'I need to kill more people'. I had a struggle yesterday cause I wanted to reset my 30-1 rec but I had everyone screaming 'NO DONT! WE NEED THE KILLS!' I mean 17th is about getting the ball in the goal not blowing your enemys fat -*BAD WORD*- out of sky cause of a league! I didnt even volunteer for it O.o I was forced into this, bloody thing will end up getting me very angry or me getting kicked coz I have score reset so many times. Quote
SeVeR Posted September 12, 2003 Report Posted September 12, 2003 Roach, what looks better out of these: A 420-38 rec or a 50-0 rec? i would take the first one every time because its less frustrating to get and just looks better because it shows you have true ability rather than "lucky runs". It would help your squad out too which is a + it seems. Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted September 12, 2003 Report Posted September 12, 2003 lol the thing is I dont properly care about record, but everytime time i die i like to reset, mainly to see if i get the points in the ball game without dieing. Once I die, i reset and start again. Quote
Tipme Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 oh becuz if people see u with a death they will think ur a newb? omfg Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 oh becuz if people see u with a death they will think ur a newb? omfg Wtf? When did I say that? I explained my reason for resetting, its more of a challenge for myself against the point odds, not because of people thinking i'm a newb or not. Most people have their opinions anyway, the majority who dont know me or have only heard of me, thats it. Quote
talion Posted September 15, 2003 Author Report Posted September 15, 2003 I think the overall effect of the league will be good, DKR. I think it's a good thing that "being a rec-weenie" now has a downside, as it doesn't contribute much to the zone's public arena. Another effect which I only thought of while I was away was the fact the mad run on points (AKA Bounce Fest) every other Tuesday has been diverted. Hopefully we'll have more people playing before resets because of this (I remember reading some people got too pissed off with all the bounce before resets). You can still have alot of fun doing the same old things in the public arena, but now there's a larger team picture to look at. Quote
Guest Venomous Blaze Posted September 15, 2003 Report Posted September 15, 2003 Hey Tal, thanks for the Pub War concept. No sign up, just play with your squadies. Simple is good. Like the six score cycle rule. To endure is a challenge. !7th offers something for everyone. Good times in it. Quote
talion Posted September 23, 2003 Author Report Posted September 23, 2003 I quit 17th staff, so it's unlikely I'll follow through with this league. Keep your eyes on the awards arena, I might have a passing fit of helpfulness. Quote
Tipme Posted September 24, 2003 Report Posted September 24, 2003 just check the scores every 2 tuesday nights and make the needed adjustments Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted September 24, 2003 Report Posted September 24, 2003 why you quit staff tal? Quote
talion Posted October 10, 2003 Author Report Posted October 10, 2003 (edited) The SSC billing scores site was FINALLY updated this week, so the past two scoreresets' PubWar totals have been emailed to ntfx to be posted in the awards arena. Congratulations to -=SMG=- and some squad for putting together perfect 200 point resets! If you see a problem with the scores, please email me and I will see your email before I send in the next reset's updated arena. However, be sure you understand the scoring sytem before emailing problems with scores. And remember, NOTICE: ALL DECIMAL VALUES WILL BE ROUNDED **DOWN** There are only 4 more reset periods left (2 months). The only squad in danger of elimination at this point that has any points is 4U>All. Edited June 1, 2009 by talion Quote
talion Posted October 10, 2003 Author Report Posted October 10, 2003 And a small addon, to keep this huge delay from happening again I will make an effort to take the scores before the actual reset occurs. This means scores will only be counted until around 6-9PM EST before resets. I will login with this username to announce it to the public arena so that noone breaks a sweat getting points/kills that won't matter for anything but pride. Quote
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