Vile Requiem Posted September 16, 2004 Report Posted September 16, 2004 You're right Ail, the two have nothing to do with each other. Back to Bin Laden. But you're excused, Bush forgot too
Aileron Posted September 16, 2004 Author Report Posted September 16, 2004 Monte, you have no perception of scale. The insurgents are small in number and the damage they do is well overblown. Peace and democracy will take off, there is not nearly enough problems in Iraq to prevent that from happening.
MonteZuma Posted September 16, 2004 Report Posted September 16, 2004 Btw, this topic is about terrorists. When did we start talking about Iraq?I thought that we invaded Iraq as part of the 'War on Terror'? Heh. The links between terrorism and Iraq are tenuous indeed.
MonteZuma Posted September 17, 2004 Report Posted September 17, 2004 The insurgents are small in number and the damage they do is well overblown. Peace and democracy will take off, there is not nearly enough problems in Iraq to prevent that from happening.I hope you are right about the 'insurgents'. As for the bright future of democracy in Iraq, do you have any examples from history that support this?
Aileron Posted September 18, 2004 Author Report Posted September 18, 2004 The Abbasid empire (the guys who built Baghdad as their capital). It wasn't a democracy, but it was progressive for their time. They could easily tolerate their neighbors, for they also tolerated European and Asian merchants. It proves that Iraqis have the capability of being more progressive than the rest of the world, and as a matter of fact are better off when they are. If you look at the region throughout history, the time where the nation occupying the region of Iraq was a third world nation were few and far between. Multiple great empires came from there, Sumeria, Babylon, Abbasid, etc. Its almost unnatural for any population occupying that territory to be poor.
Guest Recombo Posted September 18, 2004 Report Posted September 18, 2004 I can't agree that Iraqi's want democracy. Whatever they want would be fine with me so long as people can work within it. What should concern us all, is the long term effects to children in that country. Obviously Hussein screwed many of them (highlighting the fact that most Iraqi's have a 5th grade education). Whatever the system, new schools, care centers, libraries, and sources for children are being constructed every day. The more that happens, the better chance they have.
DaKillaRoach Posted September 18, 2004 Report Posted September 18, 2004 So a few thousand people die. A few more thousand are born. Only here to populate and make the race survive. Destiny and/or Fate decide the outcome. All is good in the end.
Manus Celer Dei Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 Monte, come over to NZ and we'll watch the rest of them dig their own graves.
Aileron Posted September 19, 2004 Author Report Posted September 19, 2004 Recombo, that is a criticism best given to the Taliban. Almost all the nations bordering Afghanistan have 100% (ok, 99.9, but you get the idea) literacy rates. Afghanistan has a pathetic 25% or something along those lines. While most of the other nations got their education standard being in the USSR, they still maintained their education, and the Taliban should have atleast tried to educate their populace.
Guest Recombo Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 Agreed, but that story holds true for Iraq as well. Few are educated, most have simply been denied or have chosen to not continue education.
MonteZuma Posted September 19, 2004 Report Posted September 19, 2004 Monte, come over to NZ and we'll watch the rest of them dig their own graves.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am so tempted. The world is going to -*BAD WORD*- in a hand basket. The only sane place left is New Zealand.
Guest Recombo Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 Perhaps this is the essential difference between a true American and the rest of the world. Whatever the situation, America as a whole accepts the challenge, and faces the it with hope and hard work. Others simply run away.
MonteZuma Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 Perhaps this is the essential difference between a true American and the rest of the world. Whatever the situation, America as a whole accepts the challenge, and faces the it with hope and hard work. Others simply run away.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Perhaps the essential difference is jingoism?
Bacchus Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 Perhaps this is the essential difference between a true American and the rest of the world. Whatever the situation, America as a whole accepts the challenge, and faces the it with hope and hard work.Americans are so hot, i wish i'd been born one The only sane place left is New Zealand We're sane here also...but you'd be bore to death within a month <_<
Guest Recombo Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 Did uncle sam slap someone with reality after they crossed the river? Other countries would have slapped you dead and left you lying there. Like Haiti. Anyone else care to get personal? Let's leave it to politics.
MonteZuma Posted September 20, 2004 Report Posted September 20, 2004 I can handle boredom. The simple things in life are the best. http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/go-usa.jpg
Dr.Worthless Posted September 21, 2004 Report Posted September 21, 2004 Hey, I didn't give anyone permission to print my picture, wtf!?
Manus Celer Dei Posted September 23, 2004 Report Posted September 23, 2004 Perhaps this is the essential difference between a true American and the rest of the world. Whatever the situation, America as a whole accepts the challenge, and faces the it with hope and hard work. Others simply run away.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do hope that wasn't a completely ignorant post implying that New Zealand merely hides in a corner while America does all the work. If it is, I suggest you learn something about a subject before you type in order to save yourself considerable embarr!@#$%^&*ment.
white_0men Posted September 23, 2004 Report Posted September 23, 2004 Nope, it was a completely ignorant post from a completely ignorant person. Sadly, it's that kind of blind ignorance that will probably keep terrorists focused on the USA
Dr.Worthless Posted September 23, 2004 Report Posted September 23, 2004 Nope, it was a completely ignorant post from a completely ignorant person. Sadly, it's that kind of blind ignorance that will probably keep terrorists focused on the USA Yeah.. because being in the "non US citizen" club automatically makes you not ignorant..
white_0men Posted September 23, 2004 Report Posted September 23, 2004 Yeah.. because being in the "non US citizen" club automatically makes you not ignorant.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Being born in the US to two citizens would make me a citizen too wouldn't it? I forget how that works...
Dr.Worthless Posted September 23, 2004 Report Posted September 23, 2004 It was in reference to "terrorists attack the US because its citizens are ignorant" As if the rest of the worlds citizens aren't equally as ignorant?
Guest Recombo Posted September 23, 2004 Report Posted September 23, 2004 Manus, u took it out of context. The poster who instigated my response speaks in a cowardly tone. He simply tosses up his hands and gives up rather than trying to deal with the situation. I could rephrase it. It has nothing to do with NZ. Sorry to have offended you.
MonteZuma Posted September 24, 2004 Report Posted September 24, 2004 The poster who instigated my response speaks in a cowardly tone. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>LOL I'm glad the newsgroup has brave people like you to 'deal with the situation'. Do you play with your GI Joe figurines while you read the subspace forums? Haha
white_0men Posted September 24, 2004 Report Posted September 24, 2004 It was in reference to "terrorists attack the US because its citizens are ignorant" As if the rest of the worlds citizens aren't equally as ignorant?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> How many other countries' citizens claim blindly claim their country is the best country in the world?
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