Religious conservatism and GWB

[MonteZuma]

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We get pretty good coverage of the US election campaign, and to me it seems way over the top - on both sides of politics. So much ridiculous flag-waving, capped teeth, hair spray, red, white and blue streamers and banners, hypnotised supporters, jingoism. Frankly, its sickening. I don't know how sane Americans can tolerate it?

 

But the Republican campaign is bizarre. The real people behind the Bush government and the war in Iraq have disappeared from the scene. We only see the movie stars and the moderates. The whole thing smacks of evangelism. The religious connotations of the speeches are overt. Bush is presented as the saviour of the christian world - here to deliver us from evil. I think it is becoming obvious that the 'hawks' and many republican supporters hate everything that the muslim world stands for and want to crush it - old testament style.

 

Islam has replaced communism as the tool to ensure that quasi-religious fear and fervour - often masquerading as patriotism - is maintained.

 

There is a dangerous mix of religion, capitalism, militarism and fanaticism in the US at the moment.

 

Why do many Americans need to think of the world in terms of good vs evil?

[Dav]

--->This article sums it up<---

 

We get pretty good coverage of the US election campaign, and to me it seems way over the top - on both sides of politics.  So much ridiculous flag-waving, capped teeth, hair spray, red, white and blue streamers and banners, hypnotised supporters, jingoism.  Frankly, its sickening.  I don't know how sane Americans can tolerate it?

 

But the Republican campaign is bizarre.  The real people behind the Bush government and the war in Iraq have disappeared from the scene.  We only see the movie stars and the moderates.  The whole thing smacks of evangelism.  The religious connotations of the speeches are overt.  Bush is presented as the saviour of the christian world - here to deliver us from evil.  I think it is becoming obvious that the 'hawks' and many republican supporters hate everything that the muslim world stands for and want to crush it - old testament style.

 

Islam has replaced communism as the tool to ensure that quasi-religious fear and fervour - often masquerading as patriotism - is maintained.

 

There is a dangerous mix of religion, capitalism, militarism and fanaticism in the US at the moment.

 

Why do many Americans need to think of the world in terms of good vs evil?

im sure the support of arnie will bost GWBs vots no end.

 

What a sad world we live in when people will vote because their favorite movie star tells them to.

 

Now to your question:-

 

I think americans think of things in terms of good and evil because of the way thier country behaves. By fighting terrorism and remiving saddam the US is tring to portray itself as "Good" and the pople it is fighting as "evil".

 

Properganda has made many americans belive that what their nation is doing is right and therefore GW Bush wants to be seen as the "Good" so that his voters can take pride in "doing their part" to make the world a better place. In this case the good vs evil battle completly overshadows thinks like the keyoto (sp.) agreement and other quite servere wrongdoings and blatently stupid decitions made by the Bush administration.

[Aileron]

Actually, the Hussein as Evil part is a very good description. His son tortured people just for the fun of it. Maybe you guys don't view the US as good, but we are at very least nuetral. If our motive was WMDs and Iraqi freedom, we administered justice. If our motive was oil and profit, we administered poetic justice.

 

 

Swarzenegger is more than a mere movie star. He is a former body builder, so he has personal strength and disipline. He is an immigrant, bringing in that section of the vote. He has a lot of good qualites that bring him above the level of mere movie star.

 

Compare him to his equivolent from the left, Michael Moore. Moore does not have enough personal strength to get a haircut. He is not an immigrant, but is quick to judge the right on such issues.

 

Swarzeneeger did much to help kids. Moore pointed his finger to the Right and said "go help the kids". Swarzenegger's movies, such as Kindergarden Cop and Last Action Hero, tend to be positive and cheerfull. Moore is always negative, pointing out how the world is doomed. Swarzenegger abused women and apologized for it. Moore probably NEVER GOT LAID IN HIS LIFE!!!

 

 

Also, forgive the GOP for going for the moderate votes. The democrats picked their most liberal senator for president and he picked the fourth. Kerry is the liberal equivolent of Strom Thurmond, and has equal chances of success. There is no balance in the democratic ticket, and they are allowing the GOP easy access to the middle. The GOP is going to try to get the middle, because they know they can get it easily.

[A Soldier]

Compare him to his equivolent from the left, Michael Moore.  Moore does not have enough personal strength to get a haircut.  He is not an immigrant, but is quick to judge the right on such issues.

Or how about compare him with republicans instead?

To me, you are comparing apples with oranges. Arnold vs Ashcroft for exemple.

 

Like Monte said, and I agree with him:

The real people behind the Bush government and the war in Iraq have disappeared from the scene. We only see the movie stars and the moderates.

[Yupa]

as usual it is obvious that anyone that takes up a page making a point is a waste of space

[A Soldier]

I watched the republican convention yesterday and something funny happened. During Bush's speech, cameras were filming people's reactions. At some point, they decided to make a close up of where Bush senior, his wife and the person sitting next her (I can't remember who she was) were. Anyways, Bush's wife leaned over that woman and told her something, which she reacted like she was saying "yeah -*BAD WORD*-, is it over yet?".

 

saw at 22:58 on CBS news

[Aileron]

Well, with exception to Rumsfeld and Cheney, the rest of Bush's cabinet is rather moderate, and would make good speakers.

 

What it comes down to is that fact that there is only so much time to hold a convention, they are too long already.

 

Besides, if Bush is campaigning, somebody has to stay behind to run the country.

[Bacchus]

moderate??

 

you think Rover is a moderate?

 

what about wolfowitz?

 

Ashcroft?

 

 

man, get your facts right...most of the man cabinet is hooked either on religion or oil and they all have a reputation of being very conservative, neo-con i think...isn't how they are called?

 

They are everything BUT moderate.

[Petrajs_Killer]

The fact is:

 

ALL of the terrorists that flew the planes into the World Trade Center buildings were Muslims. ALL terrorist groups are Muslim. The terrorists that took hostage that school in Beslan, Russia, are also Muslims. But do you see the news media cover that? Noooooooo.

 

 

"We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten." - President Vladimir Putin

[A Soldier]

The fact is:

 

ALL of the terrorists that flew the planes into the World Trade Center buildings were Muslims.  ALL terrorist groups are Muslim. The terrorists that took hostage that school in Beslan, Russia, are also Muslims. But do you see the news media cover that? Noooooooo.

So... you !@#$%^&*ociate terrorism with Islam?

[Dr.Worthless]

So... you !@#$%^&*ociate terrorism with Islam?

Islamic fundamentalists..

 

What a sad world we live in when people will vote because their favorite movie star tells them to.

 

So wait.. obviously you all didn't watch the DMC much, because every movie star / music star/ popculture star was there performing or talking. Funny that you would bring this up over Arnold.. and not over Bon Jovi / Dave Mathews Band / Dixie Chicks / etc etc etc etc etc.

[MonteZuma]

The fact is:

...ALL terrorist groups are Muslim. ...

Have you heard of the IRA? They're "christians".