Tipme Posted August 18, 2004 Report Posted August 18, 2004 heh im gonna vote bush just so i can hear more funny speaches
Netr0 Posted August 18, 2004 Report Posted August 18, 2004 Lol... Vote Bush For World War Vote Kerry To Bring The War To America -My friends opinion which i could understand
Netr0 Posted August 18, 2004 Report Posted August 18, 2004 Just for fun, check this picture my army friend sent me. http://www.iruberleet.net/gary/George_W_Bush.jpg
BG Posted August 18, 2004 Report Posted August 18, 2004 I'm sure, George, when faced with the football being thrown at him, would have the secret service jump in and take the hit. He would then bomb the person who threw it at him, and replace it with a Puppet-random-ball-thrower.
MasterDrake Posted August 18, 2004 Report Posted August 18, 2004 Grizzibees baby $$ bizzaro I love u bizzaro I love!
Dr.Worthless Posted August 18, 2004 Report Posted August 18, 2004 Vote Bush For World War Vote Kerry To Bring The War To America -My friends opinion which i could understand ooooo I can be extremist too Vote Bush to have Americans run America Vote Kerry to have the UN run America yay!
MasterDrake Posted August 18, 2004 Report Posted August 18, 2004 vote for me and don't worry about them
Yupa Posted August 18, 2004 Report Posted August 18, 2004 between Bush & Kerry, I would vote Kerry, but I haven't looked into the other candidates much, so who knows
Aileron Posted August 19, 2004 Report Posted August 19, 2004 I tell you what, I firmly believe there is no such thing as a Kerry supporter. There are Bush-haters, but I have yet to find somebody who actually supports Kerry.
Yupa Posted August 19, 2004 Report Posted August 19, 2004 ...which doesn't mean much when there is rarely ever a candidate that doesn't suck in some way
Aileron Posted August 19, 2004 Report Posted August 19, 2004 No, I've come to the conclusion that many politicians have admirable qualities, and that the ridiculously negative media does all they can to muckrake all politicians.
shazbot Posted August 19, 2004 Report Posted August 19, 2004 How about Vote kerry if you want babies murdered and slaughtered because he feels it's ok not to take responsibility for actions. Vote bush if you want a crippling deficit which is going to haunt us for generations to come. I'm voting bush, there is no price on the life of a human being.
MasterDrake Posted August 19, 2004 Report Posted August 19, 2004 Grizzibees baby $$ bizzaro I love u bizzaro I love!I stick with my original statement
Jericho24. Posted August 20, 2004 Report Posted August 20, 2004 At the moment america is being run by a monkey.. vote for the other guy, what was his name again?
Hackysack Posted August 20, 2004 Report Posted August 20, 2004 I would much rather have Bush as president than Kerry. Face it, both would make bad presidents, but the wiser choice is oviously Bush.
Vile Requiem Posted August 21, 2004 Report Posted August 21, 2004 I'd rather not have a blatent liar as President. Because perhaps one day those terror alerts might actually be real, but no normal person believes Tom Ridge anymore. -*BAD WORD*-, the day of the terror alert I went to my college class, and people were like "Nobody's going to bomb Newark, nobody gives a -*BAD WORD*- about it"
MasterDrake Posted August 22, 2004 Report Posted August 22, 2004 all politcians are liars get over it
Hackysack Posted August 22, 2004 Report Posted August 22, 2004 I'd rather not have a blatent liar as President.Both have been caught lying. Bush with weapons of m!@#$%^&* destruction, and Kerry... Ill quote TTJ(MG Mod) on this Kerry has admitted before a Senatorial Committee after the Vietnam War to have committed atrocities and violating the Geneva Convention in ways such as shooting young vietnamese(which he got his Silver Star for), shooting farm animals for pleasure, and burning villages. Kerry served no jail time nor saw court marshal.
Vile Requiem Posted August 22, 2004 Report Posted August 22, 2004 Because if they arrested Kerry then they'd have to arrest half the US soldiers that went to Vietnam. The US also has a policy where "We don't commit war crimes". Like when we firebombed half of Germany in WWII. Or Agent Orange in Vietnam. That -*BAD WORD*- is STILL causing problems over there, and it's been 40 years. That's not lying, that's the US not doing anything about an admitted problem.
Hackysack Posted August 22, 2004 Report Posted August 22, 2004 Because if they arrested Kerry then they'd have to arrest half the US soldiers that went to Vietnam. The US also has a policy where "We don't commit war crimes". Like when we firebombed half of Germany in WWII. Or Agent Orange in Vietnam. That -*BAD WORD*- is STILL causing problems over there, and it's been 40 years. That's not lying, that's the US not doing anything about an admitted problem.Still those were his actions. He wasn't ordered to do that. Making him no better than Bush. In my mind Kerry doesn't deserve a purple heart.
Vile Requiem Posted August 22, 2004 Report Posted August 22, 2004 Err...Vietnam was like a reverse American Revolution. Remember the ambushes of the British as they were marching into boston? At least the colonists had to have guns back then to do carnage. Any little kid with a bomb could blow up a whole unit. Now, imagine this kid isn't wearing a uniform, and you're there because of a undeclared war that is slowly becoming less and less popular in America as time went by. You wanted to survive, you did what you had to do. There's a saying among the veterans, "If you didn't do or know someone who did do horrible things in Vietnam, you're full of -*BAD WORD*-". Including the usage of WMD, against a tiny Asian nation, and evidence beginning coming out that Kissinger committed treason by negotiating with the VC to extend the war. There's a reason that Vietnam is studied in West Point today as an example of bad management. http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/082204Y.shtml John O'Neill, author of a highly critical account of Kerry's Vietnam service, describes the man Kerry chased as a "teenager" in a "loincloth." I have no idea how old the gunner Kerry chased that day was, but both Leeds and I recall that he was a grown man, dressed in the kind of garb the VC usually wore. There's your "shooting a kid in the back" btw. As for shooting farm animals and burning villages, those WERE commands of the Army at the time to stop any resistance. Shooting the animals removes the food supply, burning the village removes any decent place to live. There's a number of do-*BAD WORD*-ented disasters (such as the Mi Lay massacre) that were directly caused by these policies. Nowhere in Kerry's testimony did he say HE did anything. He was describing the general climate of the war. But if you can prove you say is true, go right ahead
Dr.Worthless Posted August 22, 2004 Report Posted August 22, 2004 I'd rather not have a blatent liar as President. Please prove that Bush lied about WMD's. In order to do so, you'll have to prove that he knew intelligence presented to him was wrong, and said that it was right. Knowing A was wrong but saying A is true is the definition of a lie. Good luck proving he knew the intel was wrong. If you had the CIA, the English, Russians, and a few middle eastern countries all saying to you that Iraq had WMD's, would you ignore their information and pray that nothing happened (if something did happen, it being an impeachable offense) or would you act on the information? That being said, WMD's was a big flop. Not to say Saddam never had any (i believe he did.), but if he did have them they sure as -*BAD WORD*- aren't in Iraq.
Vile Requiem Posted August 22, 2004 Report Posted August 22, 2004 I actually wasn't talking about the WMD's when I said that Quoting the wrong guy is flattering, I suppose I have a rep Just for fun, let's pick a classic Bush Lie: The McCain Race Card During the 2000 primary campaign, some anonymous Bush supporters used "push-polling" to suggest that McCain's Bangladeshi-born daughter was McCain’s illegitimate black child. (In push-polling, if the pollster determined that the person was a McCain supporter, the pollster asked them, “Would you be more or less likely to vote for McCain if you knew he fathered an illegitimate child who was black?â€) Could this get any more smarmy?Now, you might say these are random people. Incorrect. Primaries go from state to state as the election season moves along (the one exception being Dean this past season. but that's because he had obscene amounts of cash). If you don't think Karl Rove knew exactly what he was doing in South Carolina, you're absolutely nuts. To say that Bush, himself, never said anything bad about McCain is to overlook that he did not admit that his campaign supporters wrongly suggested that McCain had fathered an illegitimate child. To say this was fair or morally acceptable because pollsters only asked a hypothetical question is to live a lie.http://www.greenbaynewschron.com/page.html?article=126763 Couldn't have said it better myself (the OTHER definition of lying). This of course ties into the Swift Boat Vets, but as the Freedom of Information act declassifies their records they're going down in flames as it is. Ciao.
Dr.Worthless Posted August 22, 2004 Report Posted August 22, 2004 To say that Bush, himself, never said anything bad about McCain is to overlook that he did not admit that his campaign supporters wrongly suggested that McCain had fathered an illegitimate child. To say this was fair or morally acceptable because pollsters only asked a hypothetical question is to live a lie.The suggestion is subjective. Meaning, just because you think that they were trying to imply anything about McCain doesn't mean that they were. That being said I agree that's a shady practice. Anywho, you would have to show that Bush somehow ordered these pollsters to ask that question. If he did he should have to admit it. If he didn't why would he have to "admit" anything. The above proves nothing about a supposed "lie". In order for it to be a lie, you would have to prove that he knew or ordered the pollsters do ask what they did. Its completely possible he had no clue what was going on, the size of presidencial teams are huge. This of course ties into the Swift Boat Vets I find the whole "Swift Boat Vets" thing kinda amussing. Can the democratic party say moveon.org, or micheal moore? If the SBV group is tied to Bush, those two should be tied to Kerry.
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