Samapico Posted August 5, 2004 Report Posted August 5, 2004 But... omg wtf unban that guy already!! you lazy staffers ... a mod+ can, but the source of the problem needs to be fixed first: Edit. uh, just lift the ban now and fire Edit after ... ??? Quote
Delic Posted August 5, 2004 Report Posted August 5, 2004 Ya, makes no sense. If I had BanG and access to banc-bot I would've done it as soon as Foof banned him heoh Quote
PhoenixPhire Posted August 5, 2004 Author Report Posted August 5, 2004 Yeah............im still banned...>_><_< Can someone like.....fix that? lol Quote
Samapico Posted August 5, 2004 Report Posted August 5, 2004 If they know it was abuse, they should lift it right away... I mean... that sucks... I should have stayed staff Quote
The Maurauder Posted August 5, 2004 Report Posted August 5, 2004 Yes, but a certain sysop someehow "hasnt heard about this" and without that persons approval we can do nothing. Quote
AndurilFlameoftheWest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Posted August 5, 2004 Okay, it seems there is a general consensus that the ban was unfair, but as i was talking to an upper staffer earlier, we needed to have logs and our word isnt worth crap any more. Of course there have been lots of witnesses to edit's rash temper, of course i apparently got him mad cuz i am a 56ker,and lord knows you cant have 56kers in continuum, no no....boo the hoo. So the only question im asking is if you instill the mod protocol, y is edit still staff and Cord the only one fired? muy interesante chicos y chicas. Anduril/Guest LONG LIVE THE 56kers! MAY WE KICK -*BAD WORD*-! Quote
PhoenixPhire Posted August 5, 2004 Author Report Posted August 5, 2004 Yeah, it was my fault I shoulda logged it. See, the reason i didnt is cuz i've gotten kicked a few times and i thought he just kicked me. If i knew at the time i was banned for a week i woulda saved it. O.o Quote
PhoenixPhire Posted August 6, 2004 Author Report Posted August 6, 2004 Eh, being banned tho meant i spent some time in other zones. It made me realise more how much they all really do suck besides 17th. Quote
Tempest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 there is a general consensus that the ban was unfairI don't mean for this to sound harsh, but consensus is meaningless. We can't simply act upon general consensus without evidence. This shouldn't resemble a witch-hunt. our word isnt worth crap any more It isn't that your word is worth nothing, but that your word is worth as much as anyone else's word. Quote
Samapico Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 logs?? wouldn't logs be needed to prove he's guilty too?? but noone has logs, so, how can we not suppose he's innocent... You need proofs to prove someone is guilty, not to prove he's innocent, according to the law. I know this is just a 2d online space game but still, this is common logic Quote
Greased_Lightning Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 Yes, and when everyone's word is worth everyone else's, your individual word is worth crap Quote
Samapico Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 But united, our word can be worth much more than crap! REBELLION!!! ANARCHYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Quote
Tempest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 logs?? wouldn't logs be needed to prove he's guilty too?? but noone has logs, so, how can we not suppose he's innocent... You need proofs to prove someone is guilty, not to prove he's innocent, according to the law. I know this is just a 2d online space game but still, this is common logic Think of it this way. When a mod bans someone, it's like passing sentence. Mods are supposed to be trustworthy, in the same way as judges are. Mods act on evidence 'at the scene of the crime', as it were. If, however, you wish to argue your innocence, you submit a formal appeal (to pern). Quote
Greased_Lightning Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 (overturns a car and lights it on fire, throws rocks through windows) RAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
Samapico Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 But still, they had no proof or no reason to actually give that sentence... Quote
Samapico Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 [stupid flood control.. arr] Hey it's cool, we're chatting... and having like..2 conversations at the same time Quote
Tempest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 Edit said Phoenix teamkilled. There is no solid evidence (logs) either way. Quote
Samapico Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 that's what i'm saying oh, and while u're there... get us some beer!!! Quote
Tempest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 When a mod bans someone, it's like passing sentence. Mods are supposed to be trustworthy, in the same way as judges are. Mods act on evidence 'at the scene of the crime', as it were. If, however, you wish to argue your innocence, you submit a formal appeal (to pern). You must therefore have evidence to present if you wish to overturn your ban. Only if you pay for it Quote
Greased_Lightning Posted August 6, 2004 Report Posted August 6, 2004 Rowr? Man you two take the fun out of rioting... I have the solution... ban em' both! That's what I would've done... hence me not staff anymore Quote
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