Greased_Lightning Posted August 11, 2004 Report Posted August 11, 2004 Too late sever, I already checked, you never built a time machine in the future sorry... **returns to the future** i miss anything? Quote
ZKewl Posted August 11, 2004 Report Posted August 11, 2004 Time doesnt exist. Time has to exist becasue "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once," Buckaroo Banazi zya Quote
Greased_Lightning Posted August 11, 2004 Report Posted August 11, 2004 But everything DOES happen at once... there is only NOW... NOW... NOW... NOW... NOW... see? Everything I did is gone forever... with every character typed its gone, I can never go back to it and relive it... there is... no... time... Quote
Samapico Posted August 11, 2004 Report Posted August 11, 2004 OMFG THERE IS NO TIME LET'S GET DRUNK BEFORE WE .. erm.. nvm.. nothing can happen 'before' anything else... so.. erm... LET'S JUST GET DEAD DRUNK AND VOMIT EVERYWHERE Quote
Greased_Lightning Posted August 11, 2004 Report Posted August 11, 2004 Yes.... it is time for drunken debauchery Quote
pACMANx Posted August 13, 2004 Report Posted August 13, 2004 Anyone else read up on relativity? Time travel happens every time you move. As you approach the speed of light, time slows down locally. At the speeds which we move, it's not enough to notice. IF there were a way to approach the speed of light (which is hard, because as you do, you become infinitely heavy, and... uh... can't go ... any ... faster.) when we slowed down, we'd find that the world around us had aged a lot, while we didn't. Therefore, at least in the abstract, you can time travel forward in effect. Time travel backwards is generally accepted as impossible, though some theorize that passing the speed of light may have that effect. Unfortunately, as we have mass it's not possible to p!@#$%^&* the speed of light. (quantum physics geeks... yes... I know, but quantum tunneling doesn't help a human time travel) Uh... anyways... speaking of alcohol- anyone else a homebrewer? -=pACMANx=- Quote
Greased_Lightning Posted August 13, 2004 Report Posted August 13, 2004 Yeah relativity also states that an object that reaches the speed of light will occupy all points of the universe simultaneously. And we are traveling in the future now... oooh... think about it... or dont... just drink... NOW Quote
pACMANx Posted August 14, 2004 Report Posted August 14, 2004 ---snip--- Yeah relativity also states that an object that reaches the speed of light will occupy all points of the universe simultaneously. And we are traveling in the future now... oooh... think about it... or dont... just drink... NOW---snip--- Um... no. Objects traveling at light speed do not occupy all points simultaneously. Ask a photon, or perhaps a gluon, or if you are feeling really adventurous, a graviton! While one cannot determine exactly where they ARE (-*BAD WORD*- you Heisenberg!) they only exist in one point of space-time. As for a drink... I just kegged five gallons of pale ale from the secondary fermenter. mmmmmmmmm hiccup . -=pACMANx=- Quote
Greased_Lightning Posted August 14, 2004 Report Posted August 14, 2004 An object that accelerates towards the speed of light will theoretically become of infinite m!@#$%^&* at the point it reaches light speed the key is accelerating. Quote
pACMANx Posted August 14, 2004 Report Posted August 14, 2004 Of infinite m!@#$%^&* (like I said, infinitely heavy) but not occupying more space (in other words, not in more than one place... at once)- things don't get larger, just more massive. They still occupy the same amount space-time. This is tested in college particle physics labs daily. We can see a particle get more and more massive. Remember that we have conservation of m!@#$%^&* to think of, things aren't allowed to get "bigger". This is a discussion I never thought I'd have on 17th lol -=pACMANx=- Quote
BeWaRe Posted August 18, 2004 Author Report Posted August 18, 2004 Dunno much about relativity, but this is how I see it: Sound travels at 700something mph. If I were to take a M-16 and shoot you in the head from 300 yards away, you would see the muzzle flash, then you would die. You would hear no sound because the bullet travels at greater than 3000 feet/sec, faster than the speed of sound. SO, if the bullet traveled at 200,000 miles/second and I were to shoot you, you would be dead before you saw the muzzle flash. It would be like you died before the event happened, if seing something happening determines if that something happens or not. *Goes back to packing* Quote
pACMANx Posted August 18, 2004 Report Posted August 18, 2004 Yeah - sorta... Light has a wierd property: No matter what your vantage point, it ALWAYS moves at 186,000 miles per second (mps). So if you are standing still and measure it- 186,000mps. If you are going towards it really fast - STILL 186,000mps. This is different from if you are... like in a car going 50, and a car is coming toward you at 50, if you hit it with a radar detector, it will measure 100mph. Not light. if you are going towards it, away from it, whatever, always the same speed. Wierd, eh? If a bullet could exceed the speed of light (nothing with m!@#$%^&* can) and you were to put me out of my misery with an m16, I would be dead before you pulled the trigger. This phenomenon is called quantum tunneling. M!@#$%^&*-less particles (light photons or gravitons) can get where they are going before they leave. The world of quantum mechanics is really really really (really) strange. Quote
Guest Takumi.Fujiwara... Posted August 19, 2004 Report Posted August 19, 2004 Something else comes into play... E=MC2... Everything is made of matter, M (obviously)... Also, everthing is made of pure energy (E)... and when matter reaches the speed of light (C2) it becomes pure energy (E)... If any thing, like a camera, or a person reached the speed of light, how would we know...? (btw, first post...) Quote
Greased_Lightning Posted August 20, 2004 Report Posted August 20, 2004 Wow this topic is still up? Im amazed.... RIOT!! REVOLT!!! SPAM THE CHATS!!! SPAM THE HELP AND HOST COMMANDS!! ANARCHY!!! CHAOS!!! RESIST THE TYRANNICAL RULE OF 17TH STAFF!!! DIE!!! POWER TO THE PLAYERS!!! DEMOCRACY OR DEATH!!!!! (The views reflected in this post are not necessarily the views of staff, management, or licensee of Greased_Lightning, or his sponsors) Quote
Samapico Posted August 20, 2004 Report Posted August 20, 2004 DESTROY POWER, NOT PEOPLE (lol... that's what a sucky graffiti said on the wall of my school... except that there was probably more grammar errors) Quote
Greased_Lightning Posted August 21, 2004 Report Posted August 21, 2004 GAHH!H!H!HHH!H!H!HH!H!H!H!H!H!H!H!HH!H!H!H i dont know what that means, but lets just say it will ... in time... Quote
pACMANx Posted August 23, 2004 Report Posted August 23, 2004 --snip--Something else comes into play... E=MC2... Everything is made of matter, M (obviously)... Also, everthing is made of pure energy (E)... and when matter reaches the speed of light (C2) it becomes pure energy (E)... If any thing, like a camera, or a person reached the speed of light, how would we know...?--snip-- 'Fraid not. E=MC2 does NOT postulate that things become pure energy when it reaches the speed of light. Energy equals the m!@#$%^&* (which is M, NOT matter, but m!@#$%^&*) of an object multiplied by the speed of light squared. It is a relationship between matter and energy. Matter is not "made of energy". Matter has a potential energy, which may become kinetic energy. Energy is expressed on a quantum level through particle interaction (which, mercifully, I won't get into ). The general and special relativistic theories postulate that as matter approaches the speed of light it (matter) gets heavier and heavier. As matter goes really, really fast, it takes more and more energy to move it just a tiny bit faster. At near-light speed, that relationship becomes infinite i.e. all the energy in the universe could not move a spec of matter past (or even to the brink of) the speed of light. A thing like a "person or camera" cannot reach the speed of light. You may be able to curve spacetime, or wormhole right through it to reach a place as though you had gone there in linear space at the speed of light. Some of this crumbles and changes at a quantum level, but at distances greater than quantum scale, it holds true. -=pACMANx=- Quote
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