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[Live-Wire]

- lied about the reasons of going to war against Iraq

There's a difference between acting on wrong information' date=' and flat out lieing. Bush recieved wrong information, Cliniton lied.

 

I would rather have a president with a criminal background who's cleaned up his life and has moral values, than a hyocrite pro-homo baby killing pro-life'er who would rather create jobs than worry about the saftey and moral values of America. [/quote']

Clinton lied about having sex. Bush came into office having decided to attack Iraq and conveniently arranged for a reason to do so.

 

Which is worse?

 

By the way, between Bush and his wife and Cheney and his wife, haven't they killed 4 people in drunk-driving accidents? Someone please double check on my info.

[Live-Wire]

Few reasons I wouldn't vote for him:

- suspected of having rigged the 2000's elections

- lied about the reasons of going to war against Iraq

--> war in Iraq costs the american people 3.9 billion a month

--> no WMDs have been found yet

- biggest deficit seen during the great depression

- against gay marriages

- abandonned the Kyoto treaty

- around 3 million jobs lost

- tax cuts for the wealthier people... but what about the rest of the population?

Few reasons you don't know:

- Suspected of having rigged the 2000's elections

Hmm, Those seem like fabricasions the democratic party has just made up

too keep a lie too help keep bush away from being elected.

 

- Lied about the reasons of going to war against Iraq

He was recieved wrong information, Clinton Lied.

 

- War in Iraq costs the american people 3.9 billion a month

3.9 Billion, We are the richest country in the world. (If you work at Mcdonalds

you have a right too complain)

 

-No weapons of m!@#$%^&* destruction have been found yet

Yes, there has ( Canisters of Ceruim Gas (Miss Spelled)

 

- The Great Depression Defect

I wasn't poor since bush came into power actually I got more money from bush

than I did Clinton.

 

 

- Against Gay Marriages

Kerry is just doing what he wants people too hear, he wants votes from gay's and lesbians so they will add too his votes, I bet he is gay himself.

 

-Kyoto Treaty

Dunno what the -*BAD WORD*- that was, but deny a treaty is no big deal... the country was probably under a dictator ship like Cuba and Iraq ... we aren't really allied with china but we have a piece treaty but we still dont like each other. we will never treaty with dictatorship its against America's policy

 

 

- 3 million jobs weren't lost?

it seems there was alot more jobs rebuilt more industries and factories given a 20grand per year too help buisnesses.

 

- Wealthier ppl have more money..

if you work at mcdonalds would you like 1/4 of your 90 $ pay check taken away?

This sort of simpleminded approach to how to vote really ticks me off. You're what we call a pocketbook voter. If candidate A cut you a check for $50, and candidate B cut you a check for $100, you'd vote for B?

 

What happened to civic duty? How can you call yourself American?

 

And to reply to your post immediately after this one. Your religion is against homosexuality, so you're not okay with gay men, but you're okay with lesbian women? You're what, twelve years old, and a terrible Catholic?

 

What kind of -*BAD WORD*-ed up religion not only dictates how you should live, but also how everyone else should live, even if they aren't part of your religion? There is nothing wrong with your religion saying you can't be gay, because you can chose not to be part of that religion if you want.

 

But don't you find it kind of contradictory that you think the government should stay the -*BAD WORD*- out of your business, but your religion allows you to tell people that they can't have sex with eachother? Which is more of an imposition?

 

Think about and tell me when you want to convert. Or just go to church let the sermon drown out your independant thoughts some more.

[Live-Wire]

Bush is more experienced then Kerry is

Bush Has Some Military Background

Kerry was a LT. who discrased his country and threw is medals away

I think someone should !@#$%^&*asinate Kerry (My personal Opionion)

I think that bush should go on for 4 more years because he has been a great leader.

Bush didn't lead us too war, Iraq did and it goes the same for terriosts we just don't go walking into a country fight and leave untill they surrender it's just war.

If you hate bush and are just excited too see what kerry does and if he gets voted.. you'll see what happens when you don't listen too me or anyone else.

Bush had more jobs for us.. what jobs were lost?

Oh dear lord help me, I don't even know what to say. Let me do a brief synopsis, and then ask a mod to ban you from this forum for detracting from the conversation so badly. You don't have the right to be so uninformed. It is a tragedy.

 

Sentence by sentence, here is my reply:

 

Wrong. Wrong. What? What? Why? Wrong. You're Insane. Wrong.

[Live-Wire]

3. Bush is trying to push Democracy on other countries. Who said a Democratic Government is best? We have yet to see one last a mellinium, unlike Kings and Dictators. For all we know, a democracy could be flawed and cause more problems then it's worth. I'm not against it, just stating the fact that other countries can run and live happily without Democracy. Cuban people for the most part are happy. Yes, the ones jobless and poor are not, but neither are unemployed/poor americans.

Sorry, democracy is much better than dictatorships and monarchies. Why? Because a dictator or a king cannot force the country to follow him by himself. They need either a supporting party or a group of nobles. Both cases require a large amount of racism and classism to operate.

 

Yes, by itself a king isn't much worse than a president. However, in order for a politically relevent king to exist, 2/3rds of the population has to be serfs. That means most of the talents and skills of the country are waisted on essentially slave farm workers.

 

Here's a challenge, name one case where a dictatorship or monarchy beat a democracy in a military conflict. It just doesn't happen, because democracies make better use of their populations.

 

One example for my side would be the Mexican-American War. Both countries at that time were second-world, and their total economies were about equal. The US sent a national army. Thus, all states had to donate taxes and manpower. The leadership of this army was trained, and ranks were allotted by merit.

 

The Mexican's however practically did not have a national army. The individual aristocrats, who held the strings to Santa Anna's power, could decide whether or not to support the defense of their country. If they actually did donate troops, the aristocrats themselves generaled the armies, ranks allotted by whoever had the most money.

 

The Mexicans, if their military was in a democratic format, could have beaten the US twice over. However, the US marched on Mexico city with only light casualties. Why? Because the US was a democracy and Mexico was a dictatorship.

 

 

Here's the big point though - the problems you may or may not with democracy - rigged elecations, bribes, race and classism, etc. are exactly that - problems. The less of these things exist - the better for the overall system. However the monarchy and dictatorship systems REQUIRE these evils to function. If you don't like democracy, it is most likely that you are a rich aristocrat who is racist and classist.

I can't go into this right now, because it is something that would take hours of typing, but democracy is not necessarily the one and only way to do. The United States, Japan, and Korea are the only countries I can think of that rose to economic powers previously unknown in their areas.

 

All of Europe, Taiwan and Singapore all did it through dictatorial regimes.

 

There is a lot more to it than democracy is good, dictators are bad, especially when talking economically about a poor country,

[Live-Wire]

I voted for bush, despite what you all think we all made a decesion to go to war once you make a decesion like that you cannot go back on it.

 

You think the soilders in iraq have it bad now? I am in the military and since bush has been in office we been getting better funding, pay raises, better resources and equipment. Kerry wants to downsize the military and cut our funding, he was a navy liutenant only thing he would of saw which I believe he is a navy pilot was some air and ground and the bombs he dropped.

 

You may say bush has done some really bad things for the country but your ignoring all the good things that he has done too. Tax cuts for the rich, what this does it take the wieght off big companies and lets them use the extra money towards something else like hiring more american employees instead of out sourcing like suggested. Gay rights, I don't believe they are anything special, if we were meant to have relations with the same gender then god would of put some kind of organ for that purpose. I don't believe in gay marriage and I don't believe in special rights just because you are gay. In Gay I classify all genders not just males like some ppl posting you can't exclude one gender just because they are female.

 

Continuing on civilian casualties are apart of war you have to be completely cut throat when it comes down too it you can't feel any emotion for the enemy. What bush did for the illegal immigrants I thought was wrong but they can be fixed easily.

 

One of the biggest things hurting our country right now are immigrants looking for a better life and the american dream. The only thing happening is they are firing hard working native born americans for illegals that work for half the pay. Thats not right and it shouldn't happen, I believe that we should close off our borders to immigrants for a while and get back on our feet. 

 

The only ones who should be worried about america is americans its no one else business what we do we have been saving countries for a while now and I think we know what were doing, for gods sake every country we go to war with we help rebuild and in the end they say that we owe them money thats where ur big deficent comes from . And the curent state of the economy is due to economic events the happen in a cycle its just the way it is we will again soon be economically strong once again its just a matter of time.

 

Hempz may be a bit misguided but I have to agree with the comment of Kerry Flip floping from subject to subject to get the vote I was so suprised he didn't pick a female vice president to get the female vote. WOMD they found serum and I believe they said they found even more the other day on cnn. And just because they don't have them now doesn't meant they didn't have them if you noticed how much time saddam was buying he could of shipped them off for safe keeping somewhere if he wanted.

 

I am a united states sailor and I know me and all the marines, army, don't know about the airforce, are voting bush because he has been one of the best presidents to use.

 

[Edit: Fixed for reading... -nintendo64]

Okay before I start replying to this, let me just mention that I'm done with replying to Hempz's posts.

 

Now, finally a real post to respond to!

 

I'm glad you have better funding, and I think it is important to move the military farther and farther towards utilizing technology and our vast resources so we don't have to risk our soldiers. My qualm is not with the soldiers, nor with the use of funds to protect, train, and equipt them. I wish our troops were not there in the first place, because then they would be recieving a nice healthy pay check and be back at home doing things important for our society. I p!@#$%^&* through Grand Central Terminal to work every day, and I readily recognize the fact that it could be targeted by terrorists. I only see a handful of military personnel there; I wish there was a full battalion stationed there. See what I mean?

 

Now, tax cuts for the rich. Nothing is wrong with it in principle, but it doesn't work in such a direct manner. Giving a company $1000 doesn't mean it will hire new workers and pay them $1000 in salary. With the way CEO's are paid in the millions across the board, making several thousand times that of the average employee, you can't expect that it would be true. This isn't Bush's fault, this is a fault of the way our system works.

 

Irregardless of the wisdom of tax cuts, everyone can agree that cutting taxes and raising expenditures is simply irresponsible. The value of the dollar is sinking. Bill Gates is no longer the richest man in the world. I don't think you can convince me that american business has benefitted from this.

 

Gay rights we can't really discuss. You either believe in freedom and justice for all, or you don't. The cons!@#$%^&*ution doesn't allow for conditional statements. Gay marriage is a seperate issue, but John Kerry doesn't support gay marriage, so I assume we aren't really talking about it. Supporting gay marriage is political suicide; so says % of Americans.

 

On the topic of civilian casualties, war is war. Again, soldiers have to do their jobs and I'm not saying they shouldn't. Its just that they wouldn't have to kill anyone, combatants or not, if they weren't there in the first place. If the cause is just, I believe in war. I'm certainly no tree-hugging hippy. Diss!@#$%^&*embling the Afghani terrorist regime was a just cause.

 

About immigrants taking low skilled jobs; that is a good thing for you for a whole bunch of reasons. First, all consumers benefit from lower costs of products generated by lower costs of input, namely labor. In an industry where 50% of the input is human labor, if you cut the wages of the labor by 50%, the good should cost %25 less. So in other words, everyone EXCEPT these immigrants is better off that they work for cheaper.

 

And what about the displaced workers? The american born unemployed? They should start businesses, go to college, become doctors, or start programming computers. Keeping Americans in low paying jobs keeps them from every going anywhere in life. It would be far better to export our low skilled labor to mexico and have everyone in the United States move into high skilled and high tech industry, so we can all live in our luxury condos.

 

Get it? I'm over-simplifying on the other end of the spectrum. There are a bunch of different ways to look at it. Viewing unemployment and immigration through a narrow viewing gl!@#$%^&* and generating opinions from this limited information is not a wise idea.

 

Now you say no one should worry about America except Americans, and then in the exact same sentence talk about us saving other nations? Hopefully I can leave it at that and you can tell where my issue with that statement comes from.

 

In this current global economy, every single country has an effect on every single other country. A financial crisis in Russian spread to Brazil and crashed their economy.

 

If you're only interested in your own personal financial situation, you'd still be incorrect in believing that screwing everyone for your own personal benefit will get you anywhere. The truth simply is that the better everyone else does, the better we do. In comparitive politics, an anarchist might be equally pleased with an outcome in which China was made a little worse off and America was made a little better off that had the same overall comparitive effect as China becoming a little better off and America becoming much, much better off. America still has the upper hand, but everyone does better.

 

As for the cycle coming back around and America rising back to economic power; there is only one cycle that we can rely on - hegemons fall, and new great powers arise to take their place. For all we know, the United States could be on a permanent downward trend. Even at our economic growth during the Clinton era, China will p!@#$%^&* us in economic power in 50 years.

 

Lastly, I don't follow what Kerry has to say closely at all, because I don't care about him, so I can't tell you if he flips back and forth or not. But he is a politician, and that is what politicians do. I certainly know he is no worse than anyone else we have made president, so I don't see why this should be a valid arguement.

 

All I care about is that Bush is gone.

[Live-Wire]

Last post:

 

I forgot to talk, in one of the posts, about Bush and the WTO. Bush imposed steel tariffs, knowing full well that they were completely illegal. Europe then struck back with economic sanctions that hurt american consumers. The WTO ruled, obviously, that the steel tariffs were illegal, and Bush was forced to drop them.

 

Why? I spent a semester trying to figure this out with a group of researchers. Why did Bush bother doing this? The conclusion we came to was that he knew the steel industry would continue along the decline, and trying to lift the tariffs and having the WTO rule against him would transfer the blame away from him and instead people would blame "globalization" and the WTO. His plan just so happened to not work, as the unions still blame him, but thats the conclusion we came to about his INTENTIONS.

 

That brings us back to my talking about letting industries die. We make steel that costs far more than anyone else's, and our steel is far worse than anyone elses. Our companies are inefficient, and hurt the economy. Yet we support them because we don't want a huge amount of hard working mill workers to be out of their jobs (especially because they're all in swing states).

 

It is the simple truth that we need to let this industry die, and retrain our workers to do something else that the US is good at. Yes, plenty of middle aged workers would be -*BAD WORD*-ed - out of a job, no retirement plan, and too old to reeducate and start a new profession. But their children and their children's children are going to be working steel mills, and eventually they won't even need to work there because they will survive on the check the government cuts them. They are a cancer on our economy, and an even bigger one on the economy of our children.

[Tascar]

Live-Wire, a lot of what you have to say makes sense, and without sandbagging anyone - it's modest. There are a few points you made that I wanted to comment on:

 

Regarding the immigration amnesty, I'm not convinced that it's a solution. It's a temporary fix yes, but ultimately few retailers will lower their prices on products in today's economy considering they are already making razor thin profits. It basically means that they will see better profit, ultimately feeding a few already wealthy individuals some more income. The problem however, is that the fabric of the American society will continue to unravel as more immigrants with much less sense of value for everything continue to move into our country. That's not good long term.

 

One thing that most republicans believe is that Pres. Bush holds a sense of value for America and for people as well. Go off the deep end if you like (about war this and war that - i've heard enough crap), but if we put another president with little moral, and no sense of American authority in office, we will head downhill faster than 50 years. Hope you like sand.

[MasterDrake]

I am honored that my post was worth some time to spend. In reply I ask a few question of my own about the economic state of the country. Ok the only reason china is moving up the world economically because they depend on our market to keep them going we are one of the biggest imports of chinese merchandise around and being the formly richest country in the world that says something.

 

As for the issue of america's steel mills that can easily be fixed without laying thousands of citizens off and letting them plague the rest of society with unemployment checks. They will need to improve the way the harvest steel, improve the way they refine the steel, and improve the way they produce it. Basically better technology, better education in the field on how to, apply better methods for getting things done.

 

As for low class jobs being taken by immigrants I see what your trying to say by let us be the ones with a better education and better quality of life. But that is just not the way it works, Most college students depend on one of those low paying jobs at micky D's or Burger King inorder to pay for school and other expense. Most of America's scholarships aren't enough these days ethier and there are programs the you can use to get all your school paid for by the government that people do not know about, so they are unable to take advangte of them. The fact is there is always going to be lower class americans because there is no system in place that say evey native born is en!@#$%^&*led to a college level education free of charge. I am sure if we implemented some sort of "Public College" like the public school system then there would be more people with better jobs maybe not as well taught as a private school but there is always time in the future to improve on what you have learned.

 

The military issue is this, we are soilders/sailors and that what we joined to do, if we thought it was a bad decesion and didn't have support then we wouldn't of gone into iraq to begin with. Who is to say what we did was wrong, you, me, other countries, nobody can because we went in to free the iraqi people and you bring out the trump card (oil) but that is just a (forgot how to spell )"copout" used by people. What we have to do right now is forget the past and deal with the future we should take care of iraq and finish what we started.

 

We need to continue on a path that will make America greater then it once was and greater then all others. We need to prove to them that democracy will and cannot fail. If you remember we gain all of our economic status on the first 2 world wars buy m!@#$%^&* producing weapons for others. Now we have to find a better way to move up in life without war.

 

O and about the you wish that the military was hear safe getting a paycheck doing other things that will help, we really don't do much but train and sit on our !@#$%^&*es waiting for a war.

[Hempz]

I voted for bush of course, but I am saying -*BAD WORD*- let kerry lead our country.. prolly turn over too a dictatorship and we'll have another world war breakout.. germany and france even hopes kerry gets in power... cuz there all dumb!@#$%^&*es..

[Hempz]

What Bush Has Done :

 

 

Providing bold and active leadership to end the recession and helping people find work – From 2000 to 2003, America’s economy experienced an unprecedented combination of shocks: the stock market bubble bursting; an economic recession; the terrorist attacks of September 11th and subsequent War on Terror including the war in Iraq; and the discovery of corporate accounting scandals, years in the making, that undermined confidence in corporate America. President Bush acted promptly and aggressively to address these shocks.

 

Creating Jobs – The President acted decisively to help create jobs and get Americans back to work. Just one year after the President signed the Jobs & Growth bill, there is widespread evidence his policies have worked.

 

Raising America’s standard of living – The President’s economic policies have allowed Americans to weather the stock market bubble, the recession, the terrorist attacks, and the corporate scandals, and have resulted in higher incomes and living standards for American workers.

 

 

 

# Leading the Fight against HIV/AIDS. In his 2003 State of the Union Address, President Bush announced the Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, a five-year, $15 billion initiative to turn the tide in combating the global HIV/AIDS pandemic.

 

# Providing Access to Medicine for HIV Positive Americans. Just as he has shown leadership globally, the President is concerned about U.S. citizens who are suffering with HIV/AIDS.

 

# Increasing Access to Effective Drug Treatment. The President’s Access to Recovery (ATR) program will give individuals seeking drug treatment expanded access to effective providers through a new voucher program.

 

# Mentoring Disadvantaged Youth and Children of Prisoners. Last year, President Bush proposed a three-year, $450 million mentoring initiative.

 

# Helping Ex-Offenders Contribute to Society. In January 2004, President Bush proposed a four-year, $300 million initiative to reduce recidivism and help released inmates contribute to their communities.

 

# Opening or Expanding Community Health Centers. Access to health care has been extended to 3 million additional Americans – part of the President’s five-year plan to fund 1,200 new or expanded sites to serve an additional 6.1 million people.

 

 

# Created New Health Savings Accounts. The President signed legislation that makes HSAs available to millions of Americans.

 

# Created a Prescription Drug Benefit under Medicare. In December 2003, President Bush signed legislation that will make prescription drug coverage available to 40 million seniors and people with disabilities through Medicare.

 

# Opened or Expanded Community Health Centers. Access to health care has been extended to 3 million additional Americans -- part of the President's five-year plan to fund 1,200 new or expanded sites to serve an additional 6.1 million people.

 

# Strengthened Medicaid and SCHIP. HHS helped states develop new approaches to expanding coverage and avoiding reductions in their Medicaid and SCHIP programs.

 

# Provided a Health Insurance Tax Credit. The trade bill provides a tax credit to help workers who lose their jobs due to international trade obtain health insurance coverage.

 

# Medical Liability Reform. The President proposes to address the skyrocketing medical malpractice premiums through national adoption of proven minimum standards to make the medical liability system more fair, predictable, and timely

 

 

# High Standards and Accountability - Since President Bush signed NCLB into law, all states have developed a plan to ensure that every student becomes proficient at reading and math and that achievement gaps are closed between students of different socio-economic backgrounds.

 

# Historic Levels of Funding - President Bush's overall Fiscal Year (FY) 2005 budget represents a 49% increase for elementary and secondary education since FY 2001.

 

# Reading First and Early Reading First - President Bush proposed and signed into law the Reading First and Early Reading First initiatives as part of his unequivocal commitment to ensuring that every child can read by the third grade.

 

# Options Available for Parents - Using tutoring money provided under NCLB, low-income parents of children in schools that have been identified as needing improvement can select from the over 1,600 supplemental service providers approved by the states.

 

# Providing Parents with School Choice - President Bush worked with Congress to include a school choice program in the FY 2004 Omnibus Appropriations bill for approximately 1,700 low-income children in the District of Columbia to attend the school of their choice.

 

 

# passage of the USA PATRIOT Act: The USA PATRIOT Act brought down the artificial wall separating law enforcement and intelligence officers and allowed them to talk to each other as they work to prevent future attacks.

# Creation of the Terrorist Threat Integration Center (TTIC): TTIC became operational on May 1, 2003 and has since begun merging, analyzing and disseminating all threat information collected domestically and abroad in a single location.

# Creation of the Terrorist Screening Center (TSC): TSC consolidates terrorist watchlists and provide 24/7 operational support for thousands of Federal screeners across the country and around the world. The TSC will ensure that America's government screeners are working from the same unified set of anti-terrorist information when a suspected terrorist is screened or stopped anywhere in the Federal system.

# Launch of the Container Security Initiative: The Container Security Initiative establishes tough new procedures and created new partnerships with the world’s largest ports to target high-risk cargo before it leaves for our shores. 19 major ports, consisting of two-thirds of cargo containers shipped to the U.S., have agreed to participate in CSI.

 

 

 

 

 

A National Security Strategy that Meets the Challenges of Our Time

 

Defending our nation against its enemies is the first and fundamental commitment of the federal government. On September the 11th, 2001, America learned that oceans will no longer protect us from the threats of a new era. On that day, the President set in motion a relentless worldwide campaign against terrorists, in order to secure our homeland and to make the world a more peaceful place.

 

In September 2002, the President defined and sent to Congress the National Security Strategy of the United States of America. In it he offers a bold vision for protecting our Nation that realizes today’s new realities and new opportunities. It calls on America to use our position of unparalleled strength and influence to create a balance of power that favors freedom. The strategy has three pillars:

 

* We will defend the peace by opposing and preventing violence by terrorists and outlaw regimes.

* We will preserve the peace by fostering an era of good relations among the world’s great powers.

* And we will extend the peace by seeking to extend the benefits of freedom and prosperity across the globe.

 

As the world’s most powerful nation, President Bush believes that the United States has a special responsibility to help make the world more secure.

 

 

* Improving Our Nation’s Air Quality - President Bush’s Clear Skies legislation would dramatically improve air quality by reducing power plants’ emissions of sulfur dioxide (SO2), nitrogen oxide (NOx), and mercury by approximately 70 percent over the next 15 years, more than any other clean air initiative.

 

* Improving The Quality of Our Waters and Wetlands, and Resolving Water Crises - On Earth Day 2004, the President announced an aggressive new national goal to create, improve, and protect at least three million wetland acres over the next five years in order to increase overall wetland acres and quality.

 

* Cleaning and Redeveloping Hazardous Waste Sites - Fulfilling a commitment he made when he ran for President, President Bush signed historic bipartisan brownfields legislation in 2002, accelerating the cleanup of abandoned industrial sites, or brownfields, to better protect public health, create jobs, and revitalize communities.

 

* Promoting Land Conservation and Stewardship - In December 2003, President Bush signed legislation implementing key provisions of his Healthy Forests Initiative. The President’s initiative is helping restore the health and vitality of forests and rangelands, and helping reduce the threat of catastrophic wildfires.

 

* A Realistic, Growth-Oriented Approach to Global Climate Change - President Bush has committed America to meeting the challenge of long-term global climate change by reducing the ratio of greenhouse gas emissions to economic output, or greenhouse gas intensity, by 18 percent by 2012 compared to 2002.

 

 

 

 

John Kerry

 

John has a bold, new vision for America. An America safe from foreign threats and greedy special interests. John has the experience and plans to lead America to better jobs, quality health care, energy that is clean, renewable, and independent, and greater opportunities for our children.

 

 

John Kerry has always had the courage to stand by what he believes in. John earned three Purple Hearts fighting for America in Vietnam but returned home to fight against the Administration’s ill-conceived foreign policies. For the last 20 years, John has continued to fight against special interests to protect our environment, keep guns off the streets, make prescription drugs available and affordable for seniors, and stop corporations from robbing hardworking Americans by taking jobs overseas.

 

 

All his life, John has led the fight to make America a safer and stronger nation. As a soldier, prosecutor, and Senator, John has never backed down from a tough fight. John’s life has been defined by having the courage to fight to protect the Alaskan wild from oil drilling, put one of New England’s toughest organized crime bosses behind bars, help expose Oliver North, BCCI and Iran/Contra, find the truth about Vietnam’s MIA’s, raise the minimum wage for hardworking Americans, and rebuild America’s crumbling schools.

[A Soldier]

I voted  for bush of course, but I am saying -*BAD WORD*- let kerry lead our country.. prolly turn over too a dictatorship and we'll have another world war breakout..  germany and france even hopes kerry gets in power... cuz there all dumb!@#$%^&*es..

^LOL... Kerry will turn the USA into a dictatorship?

 

Live, I read all of your posts and they were very pleasant to read. Thanks for the compliment by the way :]

[Ancient Power]

Bush is more experienced then Kerry is

Bush Has Some Military Background

Kerry was a LT. who discrased his country and threw is medals away

I think someone should !@#$%^&*asinate Kerry (My personal Opionion)

I think that bush should go on for 4 more years because he has been a great leader.

Bush didn't lead us too war, Iraq did and it goes the same for terriosts we just don't go walking into a country fight and leave untill they surrender it's just war.

If you hate bush and are just excited too see what kerry does and if he gets voted.. you'll see what happens when you don't listen too me or anyone else.

Bush had more jobs for us.. what jobs were lost?

Oh dear lord help me, I don't even know what to say. Let me do a brief synopsis, and then ask a mod to ban you from this forum for detracting from the conversation so badly. You don't have the right to be so uninformed. It is a tragedy.

 

Sentence by sentence, here is my reply:

 

Wrong. Wrong. What? What? Why? Wrong. You're Insane. Wrong.

roffle. I was almost thinking that i went insane.

[Ancient Power]

What Bush Has Done :

 

 

Providing bold and active leadership to end the recession and helping people find work – From 2000 to 2003, America’s economy experienced an unprecedented combination of shocks: the stock market bubble bursting; an economic recession; the terrorist attacks of September 11th and subsequent War on Terror including the war in Iraq; and the discovery of corporate accounting scandals, years in the making, that undermined confidence in corporate America. President Bush acted promptly and aggressively to address these shocks.

 

Creating Jobs – The President acted decisively to help create jobs and get Americans back to work. Just one year after the President signed the Jobs & Growth bill, there is widespread evidence his policies have worked.

 

Raising America’s standard of living – The President’s economic policies have allowed Americans to weather the stock market bubble, the recession, the terrorist attacks, and the corporate scandals, and have resulted in higher incomes and living standards for American workers.

 

 

 

# Leading the Fight against HIV/AIDS. In his 2003 State of the Union Address, President Bush announced the Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, a five-year, $15 billion initiative to turn the tide in combating the global HIV/AIDS pandemic.

 

# Providing Access to Medicine for HIV Positive Americans. Just as he has shown leadership globally, the President is concerned about U.S. citizens who are suffering with HIV/AIDS.

 

# Increasing Access to Effective Drug Treatment. The President’s Access to Recovery (ATR) program will give individuals seeking drug treatment expanded access to effective providers through a new voucher program.

 

# Mentoring Disadvantaged Youth and Children of Prisoners. Last year, President Bush proposed a three-year, $450 million mentoring initiative.

 

# Helping Ex-Offenders Contribute to Society. In January 2004, President Bush proposed a four-year, $300 million initiative to reduce recidivism and help released inmates contribute to their communities.

 

# Opening or Expanding Community Health Centers. Access to health care has been extended to 3 million additional Americans – part of the President’s five-year plan to fund 1,200 new or expanded sites to serve an additional 6.1 million people.

 

 

# Created New Health Savings Accounts.  The President signed legislation that makes HSAs available to millions of Americans.

 

# Created a Prescription Drug Benefit under Medicare. In December 2003, President Bush signed legislation that will make prescription drug coverage available to 40 million seniors and people with disabilities through Medicare.

 

# Opened or Expanded Community Health Centers. Access to health care has been extended to 3 million additional Americans -- part of the President's five-year plan to fund 1,200 new or expanded sites to serve an additional 6.1 million people.

 

# Strengthened Medicaid and SCHIP. HHS helped states develop new approaches to expanding coverage and avoiding reductions in their Medicaid and SCHIP programs.

 

# Provided a Health Insurance Tax Credit. The trade bill provides a tax credit to help workers who lose their jobs due to international trade obtain health insurance coverage.

 

# Medical Liability Reform. The President proposes to address the skyrocketing medical malpractice premiums through national adoption of proven minimum standards to make the medical liability system more fair, predictable, and timely

 

 

# High Standards and Accountability - Since President Bush signed NCLB into law, all states have developed a plan to ensure that every student becomes proficient at reading and math and that achievement gaps are closed between students of different socio-economic backgrounds.

 

# Historic Levels of Funding - President Bush's overall Fiscal Year (FY) 2005 budget represents a 49% increase for elementary and secondary education since FY 2001.

 

# Reading First and Early Reading First - President Bush proposed and signed into law the Reading First and Early Reading First initiatives as part of his unequivocal commitment to ensuring that every child can read by the third grade.

 

# Options Available for Parents - Using tutoring money provided under NCLB, low-income parents of children in schools that have been identified as needing improvement can select from the over 1,600 supplemental service providers approved by the states.

 

# Providing Parents with School Choice - President Bush worked with Congress to include a school choice program in the FY 2004 Omnibus Appropriations bill for approximately 1,700 low-income children in the District of Columbia to attend the school of their choice.

 

 

# passage of the USA PATRIOT Act: The USA PATRIOT Act brought down the artificial wall separating law enforcement and intelligence officers and allowed them to talk to each other as they work to prevent future attacks.

# Creation of the Terrorist Threat Integration Center (TTIC): TTIC became operational on May 1, 2003 and has since begun merging, analyzing and disseminating all threat information collected domestically and abroad in a single location.

# Creation of the Terrorist Screening Center (TSC): TSC consolidates terrorist watchlists and provide 24/7 operational support for thousands of Federal screeners across the country and around the world. The TSC will ensure that America's government screeners are working from the same unified set of anti-terrorist information when a suspected terrorist is screened or stopped anywhere in the Federal system.

# Launch of the Container Security Initiative: The Container Security Initiative establishes tough new procedures and created new partnerships with the world’s largest ports to target high-risk cargo before it leaves for our shores. 19 major ports, consisting of two-thirds of cargo containers shipped to the U.S., have agreed to participate in CSI.

 

 

 

 

 

A National Security Strategy that Meets the Challenges of Our Time

 

Defending our nation against its enemies is the first and fundamental commitment of the federal government. On September the 11th, 2001, America learned that oceans will no longer protect us from the threats of a new era. On that day, the President set in motion a relentless worldwide campaign against terrorists, in order to secure our homeland and to make the world a more peaceful place.

 

In September 2002, the President defined and sent to Congress the National Security Strategy of the United States of America. In it he offers a bold vision for protecting our Nation that realizes today’s new realities and new opportunities. It calls on America to use our position of unparalleled strength and influence to create a balance of power that favors freedom. The strategy has three pillars:

 

    * We will defend the peace by opposing and preventing violence by terrorists and outlaw regimes.

    * We will preserve the peace by fostering an era of good relations among the world’s great powers.

    * And we will extend the peace by seeking to extend the benefits of freedom and prosperity across the globe.

 

As the world’s most powerful nation, President Bush believes that the United States has a special responsibility to help make the world more secure.

 

 

    * Improving Our Nation’s Air Quality - President Bush’s Clear Skies legislation would dramatically improve air quality by reducing power plants’ emissions of sulfur dioxide (SO2), nitrogen oxide (NOx), and mercury by approximately 70 percent over the next 15 years, more than any other clean air initiative.

 

    * Improving The Quality of Our Waters and Wetlands, and Resolving Water Crises - On Earth Day 2004, the President announced an aggressive new national goal to create, improve, and protect at least three million wetland acres over the next five years in order to increase overall wetland acres and quality.

 

    * Cleaning and Redeveloping Hazardous Waste Sites - Fulfilling a commitment he made when he ran for President, President Bush signed historic bipartisan brownfields legislation in 2002, accelerating the cleanup of abandoned industrial sites, or brownfields, to better protect public health, create jobs, and revitalize communities.

 

    * Promoting Land Conservation and Stewardship - In December 2003, President Bush signed legislation implementing key provisions of his Healthy Forests Initiative. The President’s initiative is helping restore the health and vitality of forests and rangelands, and helping reduce the threat of catastrophic wildfires.

 

    * A Realistic, Growth-Oriented Approach to Global Climate Change - President Bush has committed America to meeting the challenge of long-term global climate change by reducing the ratio of greenhouse gas emissions to economic output, or greenhouse gas intensity, by 18 percent by 2012 compared to 2002.

 

 

 

 

                                            John Kerry

 

John has a bold, new vision for America. An America safe from foreign threats and greedy special interests. John has the experience and plans to lead America to better jobs, quality health care, energy that is clean, renewable, and independent, and greater opportunities for our children.

 

 

John Kerry has always had the courage to stand by what he believes in. John earned three Purple Hearts fighting for America in Vietnam but returned home to fight against the Administration’s ill-conceived foreign policies. For the last 20 years, John has continued to fight against special interests to protect our environment, keep guns off the streets, make prescription drugs available and affordable for seniors, and stop corporations from robbing hardworking Americans by taking jobs overseas.

 

 

All his life, John has led the fight to make America a safer and stronger nation. As a soldier, prosecutor, and Senator, John has never backed down from a tough fight. John’s life has been defined by having the courage to fight to protect the Alaskan wild from oil drilling, put one of New England’s toughest organized crime bosses behind bars, help expose Oliver North, BCCI and Iran/Contra, find the truth about Vietnam’s MIA’s, raise the minimum wage for hardworking Americans, and rebuild America’s crumbling schools.

good job on plagiarising nearly all of it. Come up with your rebuttals and comments idiot.

 

source: http://www.georgewbush.com/Economy/

[Ancient Power]

lol @ hempz:

 

oh yeah, and as for your own comment: I voted for bush of course, but I am saying -*BAD WORD*- let kerry lead our country.. prolly turn over too a dictatorship and we'll have another world war breakout.. germany and france even hopes kerry gets in power... cuz there all dumb!@#$%^&*es..

 

 

 

 

hempz you have to be the biggest -*BAD WORD*-ing idiotic fundy conservative i have ever known.

[Tascar]

Considering that hempz is not old enough to drive or vote or drink, give the kid a little slack. Remember Continuum - a game consisting mostly of kids ages 12-15. Fundy conservative....lol.

[Hempz]

Screw this -*BAD WORD*-, I'm neither !@%! Bush and @$%^ Kerry

 

I'm taking over the world and putting myself into power... @%@! you all

 

[Edit: Crackers doesn't have anything to do with politics... at least these -nintendo64]

[Unlimited]

It's already a fact that John Kerry is going to be next President. Here's why: George Bush & John Kerry are both part of the Skull & Bones Illuminati Secret Society. Everyone has a nickname, Bush's nickname is Temporary. Just guess what Kerry's nickname is. If you don't believe me, look it up yourself.. Don't take my word for it.

[Aileron]

OMG, Unlimited managed to put "Illuminati" and "fact" in the same post without making more of a -*BAD WORD*- of himself!! (noteing that he is a -*BAD WORD*- to begin with)

 

Seriously, if you believe that crap, you should vote for Bush. That way, you help fu(|< up their plans.

[Ancient Power]

Screw this -*BAD WORD*-, I'm neither !@%! Bush and @$%^ Kerry 

 

I'm taking over the world and putting myself into power... @%@! you all

 

[Edit: Crackers doesn't have anything to do with politics... at least these -nintendo64]

ROFL now hempz is a l33t h4x0r1ng fux0r

 

hemp your idiocy engulfs x'terr, and that is one -*BAD WORD*- of an accomplishment.

[Hempz]

Ancient I love your Signature with the ATH0 -*BAD WORD*-.. LOL

 

Spray 'n p> OMG ANCIENT HACKER

Invisable > ANCIEN HAKCIN AGAIN

Ancient Po> I AM H4X0RING ALL OF YOU WITH ATH0

SpoZe> grr

Spray 'n p> ATH0?

Spray 'n p> OMFG HACKE.

[Ancient Power]

you probably dont know what ath0 is.

[Tascar]

hemp your idiocy engulfs x'terr, and that is one -*BAD WORD*- of an accomplishment.

rofl, that's funny

[Hempz]

Ath0 isnt that the special name they specified for your mothers anus?

[Ancient Power]

lol are you saying that you dont have one?

[Hempz]

no it got killed in the Domincian Battle Against the Republic