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an american gets beheaded, all over cnn and news in general,

 

16 iraqi civilians die in bombings, buildings destroyed and i can't even find a link on cnn, i had to get one from a canadian newspaper. that's sad

 

 

now don't -*BAD WORD*-ing start arguing about the actual deaths, and which is more significant or whatever, i'm just saying the 1 death was all over the media, this 16 civilian disaster is nowhere. very sad.

 

http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgaz...0f-087a7b9f7b18

 

 

^ the 16 dead

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well the issue with this, is that the death of that american might have been prevented because we have received a warning. But the death of 16 iraqi civilians is something that is not only difficult ot control, let alone a statistic that we have seen all too often.
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You know, there hasn't been one story on the rebuilt hospitals, powerlines, and other infrastructure. Not to mention the progress in that department that exceeded what was there before we attacked. Also, they hardly say anything about the new government, except when some official gets !@#$%^&*asinated.

 

You know, there pretty much is NO coverage of good news from a place where there is just about as much good news as bad news.

 

 

I think you should stop whining about which piece of bad news is covered, because CCN is clearly biased to your side.

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Death and agony sell. Good deeds don't.

 

But ya know, I have first hand experience with many middle east people and my concern is not about who is bad or good, but really, if they aren't fighting us, they will be fighting with each other. Generally I have found most of the middle east people to be hostile and somewhat resentful of others. So 16 dead Iraqi's is unfortunate, but not news because they know that it happens regardless if we are there or not.

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Death and agony sell.  Good deeds don't.

 

But ya know, I have first hand experience with many middle east people and my concern is not about who is bad or good, but really, if they aren't fighting us, they will be fighting with each other.  Generally I have found most of the middle east people to be hostile and somewhat resentful of others.  So 16 dead Iraqi's is unfortunate, but not news because they know that it happens regardless if we are there or not.

that is dumbest comment ever, you're now an absolute idiot in my mind.

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To be pc - I'm simply telling you how the US media handles it. Sorry if you feel offended by it. I have met some very nice middle easterners, but they are very guarded about their beliefs and how things should be. Our Canadian friend seems to have issues with that fact.
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so basically what you said here "So 16 dead Iraqi's is unfortunate, but not news because they know that it happens regardless if we are there or not. " and here " To be pc - I'm simply telling you how the US media handles it." is that middle easterners (which by the way, i'm sure i know way more then you do, seeing as how i'm half arab and i live in montreal where we have a high concentration) dying isn't news simply cause it's a common event? i'm confused. i don't think that 16 dead civilians and buildings destroyed by attacking helicopters is common place in the middle east (regardless of whether they're at war or not, with today's technology, that kind of stuff doesn't happen often enough for it to warrant not being newsorthy). I don't know kind of impression you have of the middle east, -*BAD WORD*- i don't care where this could have happened, 16 civilians dead via an attack on a village IS news and there should be at the very least an article on the subject on CNN's website, seeing as how they spend a lot of their time, airplay and website on the war. which was my point since the beginning.
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There was a car accident down the road here a few days ago. A few people died. I didn't even find it in a canadian news paper, much less CNN.

 

Get some perspective. This is a fricking war. Soldiers have 1 purpose. To kill people and break things. They are doing an excelent job. A better job than anyone else in the world could ever hope to accomplish themselves.

 

One innocent American dies brutally at the hands of terrorists. Some questionably innocent Iraqis die in the course of a war. Which are you going to report? If you don't know, you haven't a clue how the world works.

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Some questionably innocent Iraqis die in the course of a war. Which are you going to report? If you don't know, you haven't a clue how the world works.

questionably innocent? give me a break. that's a cop-out.

 

as if they don't have enough airtime or webspace or manpower to address the issue of the 16 dead, give me a -*BAD WORD*-ing break, what planet are you on.

 

1 man dies it's ALL OVER cnn.

 

16 people die, not a trace.

 

why? because it looks better for the country to show the one and not the other, and to say otherwise is ridicuous, in my opinion.

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on a side note, every country's media is biased. that's just the way things are. every country does it, i'm simply pointing it out, and now there's been 3 people trying to justify it.
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First off SD>BIG - incase you just came to earth, 16 people die daily from gunfire right here in America. Do they make cnn? Heck 4 of them died in downtown Philly. Stop attempting to tell American's what we should do. You're Canadian and your concerns should be for your country NOT ours and you sure as well won't control our media any more than we can!

 

As for the war in Iraq, just like Brain said, it's war. None of you have been so fortunate to understand what that is until now. Welcome to earth.

 

Sorry to hear about your loss MC.

 

There is only one way to defeat this whole situation: defeat hopelessness.

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First off SD>BIG - incase you just came to earth, 16 people die daily from gunfire right here in America.  Do they make cnn?  Heck 4 of them died in downtown Philly.  Stop attempting to tell American's what we should do.  You're Canadian and your concerns should be for your country NOT ours and you sure as well won't control our media any more than we can!

what does 16 people in philadelphia have to do with the war?

 

 

CNN is all over the war, they claim to have the most extensive coverage. it really, really, really doesn't matter what you say, the fact of the matter is that they CHOSE to not publish that information. plain and simple, there's no other way to state it.

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I certainly won't defend CNN. But layoff the things that the US does for the US. 1 American is substantial to Americans just as 16 Iraqi's is substantial to Iraq. News from America focuses on Americans. Is that unreasonable?
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Besides, you'll be happy to know that CNN only reports the worst of the stuff happening to the country. So rest !@#$%^&*ured, the beheadings will effect the country more negativly than 16 nameless Iraqi causalties. The facts are that CNN is an incredibly biased organazation, and will report the worst because of who currently lives in the White House.

 

You seem very anti american, pro terrorism, almost. That news about CNN should cheer you up.

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QUOTE(SD>Big @ Jun 20 2004, 07:31 PM)
an american gets beheaded, all over cnn and news in general,

 

16 iraqi civilians die in bombings, buildings destroyed and i can't even find a link on cnn, i had to get one from a canadian newspaper. that's sad

 

 

now don't -*BAD WORD*-ing start arguing about the actual deaths, and which is more significant or whatever, i'm just saying the 1 death was all over the media, this 16 civilian disaster is nowhere.  very sad.

 

http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgaz...0f-087a7b9f7b18

 

 

^ the 16 dead

properganda 100%

 

American killd makes the killers look bad.

 

Civiliand killd make america look bad so its no surprise you dont hear much about it.

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If I recall, the past months worth of bombings in Iraq have killed mostly Iraqi's. The war turned into a fight against government control. This is similar to the situation that both Sudan and Somalia went through - a civil war. In a civil war, civilians are killed however unfortunate....or should I say "civiliand killd" blum.gif

 

Repeating.... In America, you hear news about Americans! Surprising eh? smile.gif

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I certainly won't defend CNN.  But layoff the things that the US does for the US.  1 American is substantial to Americans just as 16 Iraqi's is substantial to Iraq.  News from America focuses on Americans.  Is that unreasonable?

jesus, i NEVER said that the 1 american death wasn't substantial, simply that the 16 deaths WERE substantial enough to warrant AT LEAST an article on CNN, i never, ever discredited the american killed. i'm not attacking the united states as a country, i'm attacking the media.

 

it's about time people stopped with the "us" vs "them" mentality, this isn't grade school where you pick sides.

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Besides, you'll be happy to know that CNN only reports the worst of the stuff happening to the country. So rest !@#$%^&*ured, the beheadings will effect the country more negativly than 16 nameless Iraqi causalties. The facts are that CNN is an incredibly biased organazation, and will report the worst because of who currently lives in the White House.

 

You seem very anti american, pro terrorism, almost. That news about CNN should cheer you up.

ugh, grow up, take your accusation elsewhere.

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If I recall, the past months worth of bombings in Iraq have killed mostly Iraqi's.  The war turned into a fight against government control.  This is similar to the situation that both Sudan and Somalia went through - a civil war.  In a civil war, civilians are killed however unfortunate....or should I say "civiliand killd"  blum.gif

 

Repeating....  In America, you hear news about Americans!  Surprising eh? smile.gif

point remains that the news is bias to american deaths making terrorits 100% evil when americans killing civilians is given much less coverage to make americans apear 100% good.

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Repeating once again until you understand.... American news FOCUSES ON Americans just as news in other countries focuses on those countries. If you call that BIASED get your head checked.

 

It has nothing to do with SIDES but CNN is an AMERICAN BASED CORPORATION who may have international presence but will report on AMERICANS.

 

What is so hard to understand here fellas? If you want to know about 16 Iraqi's, tune into the Iraqi news just the same if you wanted to know about the poor living conditions in CHINA - tune into CHINESE news.

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alright lets play ball!

 

CNN covers the war, they claim to have the best coverage. 16 iraqi's die by american hands, you (tascar) claim CNN only reports about american news, i'd say that's american news, wouldn't you? simply cause it may not be favorable in the eyes of some people, doesn't make it any less newsworthy.

 

there are 2 parties involved here, i'm pretty sure that event is news to both sides.

 

 

basically things are like this:

 

The event happened, CNN didn't report on it.

It's fairly obvious they chose not to publish it, and i think anyone over the age of 13 will agree that it is definetly newsworthy (especially considering the majority of crap that is put out as "news" these days).

 

so i guess we disagree on why they chose not to, i say simply a choice cnn made to not publish it.

 

you (tascar) say it wasn't published cause it isn't newsworthy to americans.

 

 

so i guess we will agree to disagree, eh?

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Your accusations are just short of a fight. Lower your guard a bit bud. I never claimed that CNN reports only on American news. You've confused that with my statement that CNN is an American Corporation. What they report on is their business you're right about that...however, as a Canadian, you're better off 'checking your mug' against agencies in your country.

 

I believe you are attempting to prove that I or the USA for that matter, don't care about what happens around the rest of the world. There is where you have little understanding about the hearts and minds of Americans vs what is broadcasted on CNN.

 

When your country has 1/100th of the humanitarian contributions made by the USA to the international community for the sake of THEIR well-being, let me know.

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I am sure the US Media just acts like any Capitalism-based bussiness we got to put out the product that sells, and that product is the news that people watch, it is morally wrong (Christian Principles Context) because as long as the Pay Check comes in everything is fine. Of course, sometimes events that were ignored grow enough to be reported, but it falls on the first principle, that's the current news that produces money.

 

Note: Not necessarily only US Media, any media for that way, most industrious countries have to give the citizens their propaganda food to appease them. Also, the US Press is not ranked very high (World's Free Press Context) for a country with so much "freedom".

 

-nintendo64

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Repeating once again until you understand....  American news FOCUSES ON Americans just as news in other countries focuses on those countries.  If you call that BIASED get your head checked.

 

It has nothing to do with SIDES but CNN is an AMERICAN BASED CORPORATION who may have international presence but will report on AMERICANS.

 

What is so hard to understand here fellas?  If you want to know about 16 Iraqi's, tune into the Iraqi news just the same if you wanted to know about the poor living conditions in CHINA - tune into CHINESE news.

In spite of all this i think the way we get news is changing, especially in the iraq war where news had life feeds from people in the middle of it all and people wanted to see that.

 

Given time (as long as the government doesnt intervene) i think people will want to see whats happening to the iraqi civilans as much as whats happening to the americans fighting. People will want to see the poor conditions in china.

 

I think its all technology related, before the evening news or the daily paper was the only sourse and people dont want to read about slums or more civilian casulties.

 

Now we can see things as they happen on 24hr news channels people can see things almost as they are, people are able to get a less bias view because they can see for themselves what is happening (although thay can select what to show you) and i think many people find it very interesting to see the world in this way.

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