Un Security Council Resolution 1546

[Tascar]

Trusting British Petroleum statements on the internet about US interests regarding any nation, including its own and any middle east country, would be equivalent to asking Margaret Thatcher to quote Jimmy Carter's interest in peanuts. Surely you can find a more valid research to back your accusations about our interests there?

 

US interests in Iraq were clearly security of the middle east region. You could argue that oil played a part in that IF Hussein had begun an initiative on Saudi Arabia - which is one of many tragic scenarios that could have happened with Saddam Hussein remaining in power.

 

I suppose that your next argument might be that should a Haitian leader so bold as to attempt to overthrow the Dominican Republic government, our MAIN interest would be sugar. If you really believe THAT, you truly do not understand America whatsoever.

[»nintendo64]

Trusting British Petroleum statements on the internet about US interests regarding any nation, including its own and any middle east country, would be equivalent to asking Margaret Thatcher to quote Jimmy Carter's interest in peanuts.  Surely you can find a more valid research to back your accusations about our interests there?

 

US interests in Iraq were clearly security of the middle east region.  You could argue that oil played a part in that IF Hussein had begun an initiative on Saudi Arabia - which is one of many tragic scenarios that could have happened with Saddam Hussein remaining in power.

 

I suppose that your next argument might be that should a Haitian leader so bold as to attempt to overthrow the Dominican Republic government, our MAIN interest would be sugar.  If you really believe THAT, you truly do not understand America whatsoever.

 

First off in the Caribbean USA interests were sugar, go research about sugar prices at that time.... Why do you think countries such as Dominican Republic were 1 on 1 with the dollar, thanks to their sugar industries?. Now Aileron has made some good points, but i find it rather "baseless" just spend few billions to ensure "support" in the Middle East.

 

Read the PetroDollar essay posted by A Soldier, and also British Petroleum is an UK based company, aren't UK and US are allies? no, reason why British Petroleum research will be biased.

 

1 Reason that doesn't agree with the idea of "Project Iraq Democracy", it's that US Multinationals are the ones extracting the oil, not National Iraqi Companies, and of course that there were problems in Iraqi Oil Trade before the 2003 USA Invasion, to change the Trade to be favorable to their companies.

 

USA PetroDollar being dumped for Euro.

http://www.ratical.com/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html

 

1991 Gulf War Oil Income for USA

http://www.krysstal.com/images/democracy_iraq1991.jpg

 

Problems in Iraq Oil Trade with Foreign Companies [including USA], dated in 2002

The Iraqi Oil Market it's not looked favorable by these companies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?p...9¬Found=true

 

-nintendo64

[Aileron]

Don't blame the US for the situation Spain left you in. Our interest in the Carribian was pretty much to get Europeans out of the western hemisphere.

 

All those cites can prove is that we are buying oil out of Iraq. You really can't prove motive, only guess by what is most valueble. It gets difficult when one item is intangeble, such as the value of political support.

 

The way I judge it is by !@#$%^&*uming Iraq will become another Japan. Thus, I'm guessing Iraq will have the same economy and political relationship 50 years from now. I compare the amount of Oil we are getting out of Iraq with everything the US gets out of Japan.

 

Its not a perfect guess, but you get the idea.

[A Soldier]

Don't blame the US for the situation Spain left you in.  Our interest in the Carribian was pretty much to get Europeans out of the western hemisphere.

You must be refering to Monroe's doctrine? If I'm not mistaken, the main purpose of it was to drive out Europeans out of the continent, but it was also used as "disguised colonialism". How do you explain that a region of the world that holds many ressources is poor like it is today?

 

US interventions in South America

http://www2.truman.edu/~marc/resources/interventions.html

[»nintendo64]

Don't blame the US for the situation Spain left you in.  Our interest in the Carribian was pretty much to get Europeans out of the western hemisphere.

 

All those cites can prove is that we are buying oil out of Iraq.  You really can't prove motive, only guess by what is most valueble.  It gets difficult when one item is intangeble, such as the value of political support.

 

The way I judge it is by !@#$%^&*uming Iraq will become another Japan.  Thus, I'm guessing Iraq will have the same economy and political relationship 50 years from now.  I compare the amount of Oil we are getting out of Iraq with everything the US gets out of Japan.

 

Its not a perfect guess, but you get the idea.

Aileron, i cannot dissmiss your claim about US in Iraq, because the US could have wanted that too!, just as you cannot dismiss mine, so the reasons could be both. I'll just leave it a there's always an economic factor in all invasions, be it Oil now, Secure Oil Trade in the future [Compliant Iraq Democracy] or whatever you're aiming at.

 

As for Spain Situation here in the American Continent, i want YOU to research about how countries such as Cuba gained their independence from Spain, and in a small period the USA [sometimes even before their Independence] was interested in colonizing them. Also i want YOU to research about Sugar Production in Hawaii, this pacific island became what USA wanted with the main islands [Cuba, Hispaniola and Puerto Rico] in the Caribbean.

 

-nintendo64

[Aileron]

I took a whole course on Latin American cultures. I don't know much about Hawaii, but I figure I know enough about Latin America that I know what I am talking about.

 

Its true that there is an economic and political factor in Iraq. I think we can agree to dissagree on that point, because we are both right. I guess we can also use that case here.

 

True, sugar production was an economic factor. However, the main reason for 90% of the US' actions in the Western Hemisphere was to eliminate all military and political compe!@#$%^&*ion. We took the Carribian from Spain to get Spain out of the Western Hemisphere.

 

And we were successful I might add. The US is the only world power (except Canada, if you count Canada as a power) with territory in the western hemisphere. When the Soviet Union moved into Cuba, it was labeled a crisis, because it was political compe!@#$%^&*ion in this hemisphere.