New Banning Method...

[Swift]

I was seeing a lot of ?ban's throughout 17th Parallel, 3 days here, 7 days there.. you know I was like wth a ban bot would do wonders vs a ban from the zone.

 

 

Here is the method to this amazing madness:

 

You violate a rule - you will be verbally warned by a staff member, that staff member will then put a ban on the bot with a type 4 (-t4) which stands for Warning. Depending how many times you have been warned will change the length of that warning for staff. There are 3 other kinds of bans this bot will deal out, a Silence (-t1), Spec-Lock (-t2) and Shut-Lock (-t3). If you have had 5+ of those kinds of ban's not including Warning. You will the be banned for an indeterminate (I say this due to who knows the reason, I dont look into the future) amount of time.

 

You say now, I will byp!@#$%^&* by changing my IP or ID or Name. Go for it I say, you'll find out how good this bot is and I say give up, it's wasted effort on your part.

[Shaylee]

I think it's a very good idea. But, honestly, Is it what 17th needs? I don't think so personally. Sure we may have a little more bans lately, but is it a number of Bans that staff can't handle? No. It's not really many at all.

 

Aren't you worried about the problems we're going to have with that bot? I mean, Say.. You warn someone, and another person ends up warning the same person for the same thing. What's the bot going to do about that? It's going to create hassle amoungst the staff and frustrated players. I think Ban Bot, is great for DSB, TW, Zones with bigger populations who have more problems with banning then we do.

 

I can just imagine this bot, banning people, speccing people, for no reason at all, other than maybe they were warned once, and getting the wrong command, or something, there's just so many things that could go wrong with the bot. Specially with access to different people.. It's not going to people added or a wrong person.. lol I can just think of like a 100000 different things that could go wrong, and for our population, like i said, Its not needed.

 

That's my opinion

 

 

Shaylee

[»Maverick]

I do not agree with you shaylee. Since we got the bot we almost haven't had a single ?ban anymore. Instead the new bot has have had some bans. With this new bot we can also set the ban length more accurate then before. The time of a ban can be pinned down to the minute instead of only days with a ?ban.

 

You warn someone, and another person ends up warning the same person for the same thing.

As you might have already noticed the bot gives a chat message as soon as someone is put on a warn (-t4 ). So you only have to pay attention and you will see what other staff members have done with the offender. And; staff can search the exact !ban history of a certain player, something the biller ?bang can't.

 

and getting the wrong command, or something,

Ofcourse staff needs to learn the commands and how to work with the bot. But as soon as it is used by everyone this bot will give the staff alot of advantages vs offenders.

 

-MMaverick

[Swift]

I agree on this point. There are some important things that need to be said about the banc-bot Shaylee. I don't agree with a few of your reasonings.

 

As Mav pointed out, it chat spams the staff chat whenever a new ban is set. Give it a minute before you check the ban (to see if the person also added a bancomment) and if the person already HAS a warning that is still active, you can say look he has an active warning still, up it and give him a silence (-t1) for a day. There you go, you still have an active warning to notify staff to keep an eye on this person while moderating everyone else in the zone, and/or running events.

 

Chance to abuse commands now? Cmon there are "10" different levels.

 

Moderators: Level 3

Super Moderators: Level 4

Rifleman / MMaverick: Level 7

Sysops: Level 9

Owner: Level 10

 

So now that you think on it.. how much banning power do they have? How many features or access privledges does that level have? Yes they can set ban's but they can not view IP/ID data like 7+ people can. So your worries are few and far between what really needed to be addressed.

[Delic]

(this is a reply to MMave's comment below O.o don't know how it got up here! hihih)

 

Yeh instead of listening to what I had to say about the zone, they ignored that for years, but when I do one bad thing they're quick to pay attention to me eh.

 

Just shows how messed up 17th is as a zone..

[»Maverick]

You showed us why delic

[Swift]

It's by far a more re!@#$%^&*uring way of keeping players IN the zone than kicking them out all the time.

[Delic]

That's not my point Swift.

[Delic]

lål Swift deleted my post eh? Just keep proving my point about this staff further more.

[Swift]

What post? Why would I delete it? You are making wrongful accusations on my part.

[Delic]

I guess you did it by mistake then? Or maybe SSForum is messed up O.o

Look at the post above MMave's.. that's where the other post was.

 

Luckily I started saving these kind of posts when Zeke deleted a whole conversation awhile back ^.^

 

This is actually quite humorous.. instead of working on the quality of the gameplay to keep players happy' date=' you improve the ways you can ban players, heheh!

 

Well I guess you have to be good at something eh [/quote']

 

That's the one ^_^

[Rixsta]

here here Delic.

 

Why not work on a useful bot, like a commentator Bot that tells you when the ball changes hands and when you lose the ball? or at least a message to your freq so when your team collects the ball you know who to attach to, but there'd be the obvious abuse issue, but im sure if you didnt show a message for the passing of a ball to a team mate within "x" amount of seconds it could be resolved.

 

Id find it extremely useful.

 

Rix

[Swift]

I'm sure a .dll could be created for those specific reasons you just made. It's sounding like an assault-Bot or the WZ CTF bot. I'm not quite sure how it could be used in an abusive manner honestly, but I would say suggest it to Rifleman/MMav and they'll submit it to the bot dev team.

[Delic]

So you did do it by mistake but you don't have the courage to admit it so you bring up all these other possibilities and comments?

There were no other mods on at the time.

I know you're the führer in here Swift (all hail Swift o/ o/) there was no need to point that out, because as I said, even if you wanted to do it and did it, that would only prove my point further more.

 

But eh, seems we've gotten off track here ;D

Let's get back on topic!

YES good job, more bots, less humans.

Better and more effective ways of dealing with these evil delinquents, and.. more sett-screw-ups which will cause more players to get mad!

 

Go 17th! <3

[Swift]

And yet you are twisting words once more. If I have to I will spell it out for you: I DID NOT EDIT NOR DELETE YOUR POST.

 

here is the last thing I did via MCP if you need some verification: Swift Locked Topic General Discussion Wha-Wha-What!?

Topic ID: 4429 Jun 9 2004, 06:55 AM xxx.xx.xx.xxx

Edited June 9, 2004 by Swift

[Delic]

IT JUST MAGICALLY DISAPPEARED AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAPPENED TO BE THE ONLY MOD READING!

I SEE, MY BAD, SORRY, FORGIVE ME

 

Ok seriously this thread has gone to -*BAD WORD*-, just admit you did it by mistake and we can get back on topic <3

[Swift]

No one editted it at all, if I have to have every administrator come in here and post to prove it they will. If anything you did it yourself and could have fixed the problem instead of bringing it out the way you have. You create a public fiasco out of a post. You manipulate the situation to suit your needs and tirade. You have no compunction nor ability to see the truth at face value.

 

You are a person who has either been decieved one too many times to accept the truth when it's told or someone who is so used to people LYING that you just automatically assume everyone lies and the truth is never told.

[Delic]

Um.. Swift?

 

If I could have fixed it I would have done it..

 

And.. you can see the truth by scrolling up here..

 

It's by far a more re!@#$%^&*uring way of keeping players IN the zone than kicking them out all the time.

 

This was your reply to the post that got deleted' date=' this one..

 

This is actually quite humorous.. instead of working on the quality of the gameplay to keep players happy, you improve the ways you can ban players, heheh!

 

Well I guess you have to be good at something eh

 

And as you can see by scrolling up, it's not there now, is it?

 

Nope, I don't think so.

 

Do you see it? Because I don't.. maybe it's just me? I don't know.

[talion]

it is a vast conspiracy, obviously.

 

everyone is against you maka, you'd best change names and start over. to become a credible newbie you ahve to play TW though. bye!

[Delic]

here is the last thing I did via MCP if you need some verification: Swift Locked Topic General Discussion Wha-Wha-What!?

Topic ID: 4429 Jun 9 2004, 06:55 AM xxx.xx.xx.xxx

 

This post has been edited by Swift on Jun 9 2004, 06:43 PM

Then as I said..

I guess you did it by mistake then? Or maybe SSForum is messed up O.o

 

But no.. instead you had to say your I'm The Führer I can do whatever I want speech, which I see you (or was it someone else this time too? or no one?) deleted..

 

Well I guess this is pointless if you're going to edit/delete posts.

 

I'm done.

[Swift]

I deleted my post b/c it was uncalled for and irrelevant. As for what you said there is a 3 second delay so it's possible it never even got posted.

[Rixsta]

will do, i suggested it could be abused because some people may end up dileberately passing the ball to make messages come up... the more passing the more messages, thus being abuse, but thanks, will do

[Lea]

ive tested it out... I like it...

 

It gets the "LEA" stamp!

[kill]

:syrus: lets party Yeah :syrus:

[Manus Celer Dei]

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Learn to edit your posts or I will have you killed.