Bricks

[Arianax]

Why are bricks only 1000, i was playing earlier, and its now sooo easy to be invincible with ?buy brick as a macro... lol, i got a picture of some low-level brick usage... shouldnt cost be put up?

[Delic]

Omg

 

I just got the best idea I've ever had

 

Bring back old settings

 

Omg

[Arianax]

Lol, had problems with the picture, here we go, in your mind, picture a room full of bricks.....there we go.

[Yupa]

what maka said

[DaKillaRoach]

NOT what Maka said.

 

Lets go forward! Im with Vile now.

 

The sooner the TET Offensive begins the better!

[SeVeR]

In response to Akai:

 

Squorrk!!

 

 

DKR:

 

I want the same thing, i just don't know if vile has the right idea. Pub isn't so bad at the moment actually.

 

But i'd like vile to try it because theres alot wrong with what we have now and if it turns out better which it could then it would be worth it. I'm not someone who dismisses anything new like some people who just want to go back in time to when 17th pub was annoying and nobody played it.

 

Maka: how long were you around before the settings changes actually started?

[Delic]

Changes by who? I started in may 2001 so I was around about a year before Nurples and Zeke messed them up completely.

 

Why?

[Miami]

I don't remember Bricks being 1000, they we're 100,000 Yesterday and now you can't buy them at all, at least not with a WB. Bring the bricks back!

[Manus Celer Dei]

Personally, I don't think bricks should be buyable at all.

[Mikalo]

I've seen some odd use of the new bricks, we were spelling out taunts to the other team a while ago...had to admit, it was quite humorous.

[Rixsta]

Yeah i think buying is useless, i dont think many people waster their points on bricks when they were costly, so its not really no point in having them buyable.

 

And as for the settings it should be a move forward whether they go disasterly or go well... I think people have got to approach them with an open mind, as if your playing the zone for the first time, if you come in ready to compare them it'l go wrong, some players probably won't even give them a chance because of the status of the current sets, if people love the current sets they'll probably dismis the new ones before even getting into them, and vice versa.

[DaKillaRoach]

Bricks are fun...

[talion]

i say bring back the old sets for 350 days

 

then when delic gets unbanned, bring in the tet offensive!

 

yeah sure, whatever.

anyways, bricks shouldn't be buyable you're right. especially for 1000. unless you make things only buyable from the safe zone.

[Delic]

I agree with talion

[SeVeR]

Maka: you were a noob at the time they were being changed which makes it harder to give them up because you were just getting good at em. I don't know if you noticed that all the vets were sick of the sets back then on every ship except maybe the warbird. We all loved the jav cos it gave us rumble, javwar and sbl but as for the pub-ships the situation was that they were hated just as much as they are now and probably even more. I know you "clung" to vets back in the old days (i don't have a better word sry) and now that you are one you're adopting a common cause to demonstrate that. The fact is they stunk back then and pernille won't bring them back because well... she isn't stupid.

 

On the bricks, i want them back but at a less price like 50k. If someone spends 10 hours a day playing here and has a million points then let them be able to buy those bricks.. lets face it we have shields as a green in 17th which is alot worse. Most people don't have the time to play that long and be able to waste 100k on bricks so a more affordable 50k would be nice and people may consider using it. But shields.. GET EM OUT! i keep thinking people are cheating for cripes sakes!

[Delic]

You're so wrong :/

Something that is challenging and takes skills isn't boring and doesn't stink.

And even if it was, changing them into even easier ships makes it even more boring.

All vets were sick of all the ships?

Where däfäk did you get that from? If you're going to talk for other people, atleast get your facts straight before you do :/

I never heard anyone who's anyone whine about ship settings except the weasel and the spider.

I DID hear A LOT of complaints when they started changing them though, not just from vets.

Come on, don't tell me that you don't remember all the complaints about the changes, on the old forum and in game.

I don't understand how you can say such a thing.. don't be silly :/

Most talk about ship settings obviously came after they started messing with things that should've remained untouched.

 

I was just getting good at them when they started changing settings?

Hehhh I won't even reply to that Makes me laugh heheheh.

 

And the reason why the jav "gave" you all those events was because people "made" those events for that ship, and that's because fighter elimination type events are the most basic events in SubSpace.

[Tipme]

i dont care anymore

[SeVeR]

I remember everyone giving up playing pub before the settings were changed. They were changed because of that.

 

You're right that more complaints came after the changes because the people who made them did not know what they were doing. They were only that high in the staff because they cared more about being a good staff member than playing and understanding 17th's gameplay. It was disastrous but going back to what they were before is not the answer because they were highly flawed to start with.

 

What we have at the moment is fun to play and i would prefer it to the old sets. That doesn't mean i like it tho. There is alot of room for improvements before we can consider a multiship league other than pub soccer (although we still need a better pub map for that).

 

Also.. what were you smokin when you said: "the reason why the jav "gave" you all those events was because people "made" those events for that ship". Imagine a terr, weasel, spider, shark or levi event with any of the old ships please and tell me what you think so i can either laugh very hard myself or have you change your mind.

[Delic]

I remember everyone giving up playing pub before the settings were changed. They were changed because of that.

 

People finally gave up on pub after they uploaded mummy' date=' before that, they made some minor tweaks like making the shark drain energy when cloaked etc.

The new ships (Zeke's) came after that.

 

It was disastrous but going back to what they were before is not the answer because they were highly flawed to start with.

 

How the -*BAD WORD*- were they flawed?

The only things that needed to be changed was as I said, burst damage and weasel.

I'm not saying we should just switch back to old setts, that wouldn't really accomplish anything (even if it would be better than what we have now), but base a gameplay on the old setts, because they were 17th and they all made sense.

 

Warbird: Troop carrier.

Javelin: Fighter craft.

Spider: Ambush craft.

Leviathan: Long range heavy bomber.

Terrier: All-purpose support craft.

Weasel: Shock attack craft.

Lancaster: Close range bomber.

Shark: Cloakable fighter/bomber.

 

I mean... what other ship settings are better suited for this zone?

You might as well change the name of the zone if you're going to change everything that has to do with 17th Parallel.

To be honest I wouldn't even mind the old weasel' date=' it was the easiest ship to kill if you had x-radar, but to see a new fighter that could compete with the jav would be nice, plus it would open doors to new events.[/quote']

 

Don't tell me that the old settings didn't work.

 

Also.. what were you smokin when you said: "the reason why the jav "gave" you all those events was because people "made" those events for that ship". Imagine a terr' date=' weasel, spider, shark or levi event with any of the old ships please and tell me what you think so i can either laugh very hard myself or have you change your mind.[/quote']

 

There's plenty of events that could've been made for those ships.

Levi = bomb/base/bunker-type event

Spider = cloak war-type event

Terr = base war-type event

 

etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

 

Not to mention multi ship events, like flagbattle with a better map.

The only things that needed tweaking were burst damage and a new weasel, preferably a fighter to compete with the jav.

[talion]

jim just stop trying, delic is pretty dense all around.

 

edit your ignore.txt, add his nicks, subtract blood pressure when you read what he has to say.

 

(Waits for swift to add ignore feature on boards)

[Delic]

I'm hurt.

[Mikalo]

When did Delic get beanned, for what, how...I missed something.

[Arianax]

Weren't you banned for the whole Bot business?

 

PS. Mik, your Sig is huuuuuuuuuuuuuge. seriously, look at mine, then learn the lesson.

[Tipme]

armada is known for obnoxiously long sigs

yes 5000 characters is the -*BAD WORD*-ing limit

but the -*BAD WORD*-ing image size you -*BAD WORD*-s

[DaKillaRoach]

Ricebowl, I think your signature is too long. How about shorting it down? WAIT! I just got a even better idea! How about just LEAVE! Go on! Leave! Bugger off and go move to another rock to live under... preferably no where near Subspace.

 

Go try Infantry or something