Tascar Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 I have heard many Muslim's tell me that there is a difference between a Muslim and the extremist Muslim's who are considered terrorists. So in order to protect that philosophy, and to !@#$%^&*ure world peace, shouldn't the Muslim community be stepping up right now and aiding USA in the fight against terrorism? I don't know if that is happening world wide or not? I believe that if something terrible happened in the USA, many non-Muslim (Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Aethiest, etc.) would quickly draw the conclusion that all Muslims are terrorist, although I'm sure that it is not even close to the truth of that religion. The painstaking truth of the matter is that I believe many vengeful Americans would seek total retaliation -- such as waiting for the Ramadan and the passage to Mecca then inflicting casualties by the hundreds of thousands. That is a prospect to world destruction which is why we need to stop the possiblity of terrorism now - because in the end, no one can win. Comments?
Yupa Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 afaik the vast majority of Muslims are immensely anti-violent, probably much better-behaved than most people calling themselves Christians I don't see why the Muslim community in particular should step forward.If they are citizens of the United States of America, they are doing just as much as most people; pay taxes and face the crap along with the rest of us. Islam is a massive religion - the second largest atm - it is far from exclusive to the Middle East. I was raised as a Christian and my values are probably rather set at this point, but I doubt I would want much of anything to do with this war no matter what religion I grew up in. I don't think Muslims should be expected to come forward - I'm guessing they are anyways, though. Muslim != IraqiMuslim != terrorist
Himura Kenshin Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 no they cant Tas. the main thing in our religion is to kill or help kill other muslims. Im not talking about the terrorist ones but the innocent lives that are beeing taken.
Vile Requiem Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 I wouldn't expect ANYbody, muslim or not, who lives in Iraq right now to "help us defeat the terrorists". For one thing, anyone who doesn't live in america knows that Osama's forces came in AFTER saddam was taken out and thusly we're to blame. For another, we caused all the -*BAD WORD*- that's going on in Iraq atm, first with sanctions, now with blowing -*BAD WORD*- up. Why wouldn't they want us out of Iraq? It makes no sense that they'd help us, particularly since BECAUSE of all the fighting Bush is exiting June 30th. Even in Afganistan, we had to pay off the warlords to help us. The same warlords that are now resubmitting to the Taliban and fighting us again. It may shock many, but the US isn't exactly seen as a "friend" to a LOT of countries.The Iraq war did more for Al Queda recruiting then anything else.
Yupa Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 no they cant Tas. the main thing in our religion is to kill or help kill other muslims. Im not talking about the terrorist ones but the innocent lives that are beeing taken....what?
Tascar Posted May 29, 2004 Author Report Posted May 29, 2004 I'm a little confused what you mean by that MC. Maybe rephrase? For one thing' date=' anyone who doesn't live in america knows that Osama's forces came in AFTER saddam was taken out and thusly we're to blame[/quote']Vile, do you know what you are talking about? Insurgents are not necessarily aligned with the AlQuaeda. Most of them are ex-Saddam loyalists, or recent recruits in the "hate America" bandwagon. It may shock many' date=' but the US isn't exactly seen as a "friend" to a LOT of countries.The Iraq war did more for Al Queda recruiting then anything else.[/quote']You're right, and it is realized that many countries do not like America. Again, it's a bandwagon abroad. Just remember, after 9/11, more than 90% of America supported action decided by Pres. Bush. Now, you have more than half of those same 'supporters' simply pointing fingers (and soon burning flags no doubt) because they are shallow, cowardly American's who blow with the wind.
Himura Kenshin Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 oh sorry wrote that at 6am I mean it is against our religion to kill or help kill other muslims.
Yupa Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 oh sorry wrote that at 6am I mean it is against our religion to kill or help kill other muslims.what religion, Islam? Isn't it against your religion to kill anyone?
A Soldier Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 I thought no religions allowed killing... :/(killing as in killing an other human being)
Himura Kenshin Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 if some one threatens your life or your families you have the right to kill them and yes islam.
Tascar Posted May 30, 2004 Author Report Posted May 30, 2004 so MC, I'm confused about your 'rights'. You cannot kill any Muslims, but if someone threatens you or your family you can kill them. So where do Islamic extremist terrorists come in? Can you kill them because you live in the USA and they have threatened the 'zionists'. Or, do you spare them despite any wrong doings because they claim to be Muslims. In America, I think the law states that if in self-defense you kill someone, you may be spared, however it is not for certain. There is no aspect of Christianity that allows for killing of humans at will for any reason, and I don't think that there is anything in the Koran of that nature either.
A Soldier Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 Maybe not the Koran, but I was thinking of the Sharia (sp?), which is, fortunatly, only adopted by a minority of muslim people?
Yupa Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 There is no aspect of Christianity that allows for killing of humans at will for any reason, and I don't think that there is anything in the Koran of that nature either.yes, but that didn't stop the Crusades not stopping radical Muslims from strapping C-4 onto their chests, either
Himura Kenshin Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 Alright basically the only time your allowd to kill is during war and only when your beeing attacked theyll call that jihad (wholy war). There hasnt been jihad for thousands of years (i think).
A Soldier Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 bin laden called up a djihad on americans decades ago...are you sure you know what you are talking about?
Himura Kenshin Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 yeah but i mean a true jihad any one can just call a jihad.
Yupa Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 yeah but i mean a true jihad any one can just call a jihad.man...could you spend like .00005 seconds and just proof read your posts before you submit them? anyone can call a jihad
»SD>Big Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 yeah but i mean a true jihad any one can just call a jihad.man...could you spend like .00005 seconds and just proof read your posts before you submit them? anyone can call a jihad i called a jihad on akai last week, my religious war is still in progression, he's a sneaky fellow.
Yupa Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 you're sure to lose I will convince 13-year old kids to strap nitro on themselves, run over to your house and detonate
»SD>Big Posted May 31, 2004 Report Posted May 31, 2004 you're sure to lose I will convince 13-year old kids to strap nitro on themselves, run over to your house and detonateive been living next door to you for years, planning. tell your mother the blue dress makes her look fat.
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