Tascar Posted May 26, 2004 Report Posted May 26, 2004 Read this article on cnn: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/26/...iraq/index.html I wonder how much Kerry's campaign paid Al Gore for that. Nothing but a finger pointing burned out fool. Go away Gore, your day is done.
Yupa Posted May 26, 2004 Report Posted May 26, 2004 I hate metaphors and politicians ...hrmmm I didn't know they kept calling exVPs Vice President
A Soldier Posted May 26, 2004 Report Posted May 26, 2004 He also included his former Clinton administration colleague, CIA Director George Tenet, even though he called Tenet "a personal friend" and "a good and decent and honorable man." But he said the U.S. intelligence community needs new leadership as well.nice way to backstab someone rofl
Trigger Happy Posted May 27, 2004 Report Posted May 27, 2004 I think Gore should stay around, I thank God everytime I see him that Bush won that election. We would still be jousting with Afgan' leaders, let alone do anything about Iraq. If Iraq flaunted Nukes like Korea, we would have just taped them on the wrists like Clinton did ... bombed like what? outhouses. Gores a good reminder that things easily could be worse than Bush. Not saying Bush is the best, but I simply don't trust Kerry.
Himura Kenshin Posted May 27, 2004 Report Posted May 27, 2004 shoot kerry is better than bush. bush changed the reasons going to irq multiple time first was they suspected nuclear and biological warfare but they didnt find any next to free irq from suddam. I jut dont trust the lieng man.
Trigger Happy Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 I don't trust someone with a ACDC Banner and Avatar, but point duly noted. I would agree that he changed his point, but then again, if I believed that they had nukes I would go to war with them to attempt to stop them from developing anything to dangerous. Oh and then if we couldn't find any, I think I would try to justifiy the war. Oh and wait, Saddam was ruthless and a cynical murdering -*BAD WORD*- that would try to destroy nations or anything to get what he wants. Soo, wait, the president, due to information show to him, decided that we should go to war to stop a warmongering dictator that our Intel believed had / was developing the infamous "Weapons of M!@#$%^&* Destruction" Well as much as it seems slightly idiotic, it seems to be understandable.
Tascar Posted June 1, 2004 Author Report Posted June 1, 2004 Agreed. Funny how hard it is for our foreign friends to understand this.
Trigger Happy Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 Seriously, I think it must be the translation power in Altavista, for some reason it translates weird. Something about it can only translate "surrender" or "we give up" into French?? It has me confused.
»nintendo64 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 Do not see the War on Iraq, as USA saved Iraqi People, see it as USA tried to fix one of his plenty messes (sp?) in the World. -nintendo64
Zetirix Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 Do not see the War on Iraq, as USA saved Iraqi People, see it as USA tried to fix one of his plenty messes (sp?) in the World. -nintendo64I just wonder when we (as a US citizen) will stop "fixing" the world, and remember that our own country needs help. Up for toss is: 1) Under Clinton, we had almost 0% unemployment. (I for one, under Bush, am now unemployed.) 2) Under Bush, we no longer have government surpluses we had with Clinton. 3) Under Clinton, "We never inhaled." 4) Under Bush, we are having to pay 250% gas and oil costs. How could he justify this? There's two sides I see here, Bush... smart guy, dumb mistakes, probly self centered. Gore, perfectly incapable of leading any kind of war... which would "I as an American" have? Nice job, government spending here, compared to... what do we have here... ? - Z
Tascar Posted June 1, 2004 Author Report Posted June 1, 2004 Under Clinton we never experienced the loss of 3,000+ innocent lives. Under Bush we had 90% agreement that military action was warranted. But I agree, something better needs to be done regarding employment. But notice how John Kerry is so quick to point out all the mistakes about war, yet has NO F'N PLAN for fixing the economic situation.
Zetirix Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 Under Clinton we never experienced the loss of 3,000+ innocent lives. Under Bush we had 90% agreement that military action was warranted. But I agree, something better needs to be done regarding employment. But notice how John Kerry is so quick to point out all the mistakes about war, yet has NO F'N PLAN for fixing the economic situation.The loss of the towers can't be blamed on any Pres, it's how Bush handled the aftermath that pissed me off. He lied too, the day after the incident, he vowed to not use the towers' image for his re-election. My plan for economic situation... We have like, a huge army... larger than some countries have populations. We need oil, they have oil... SIEZE THEM! Make reperations in oil while we "kindly rebuild" their country. Just my idea tho. - Z
Trigger Happy Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 Thanks, Thanks I needed that laugh. Well obviously the Twin Towers destruction cannot be blamed on anyone imperticular, even the President, However I would not have wanted to have anyone else political in office at that time, I agree with most things the president has done, given I hope that things get better in the USA, but this isn't something that is going to happen overnight. I'm sorry you lost your job, but am I suppose to feel bad about my pay check? Dude I'm in the Military, Join up its great. HA! But no really its a good steady pay check and I almost definatly won't go to offical "War" but hey thats the good ol' Air Force. But I don't really like the so called "discipline" The Presidents duties are as head of his party to devise policy that will help the United States, but this must be done through where? Oh yes that body they call the rest of the goverment, Congress. So wait, the President doesn't have a vote in Congress? Oh, so who else thought this was good lesgislature? ELECTED CONGRESSMEN Who voted for them? .. Holy -*BAD WORD*-, it was, it was you. Prosperity can't be changed from Bad to Good with the remote like Oprah. I'm sorry but for now you have to rough it like the other Americans that are unemployed. Also this wouldn't be as much of a problem if people didn't leech of unemployment, but hey thats a whole different story (not in a threatning way, just some people do .. ) Oh yeah, and one more thing, our Armed Forces must be proportional to protect our population. Obvoiusly a country the size of Rode Island wouldn't have our Armed Forces. But if we seize there stuff like that we will just cause Worldly chaos as they will try to stop us, then we'll have to kick there -*BAD WORD*-, they'll run away, and we'll be stuck with the bill kuz they won't pay. Life's a -*BAD WORD*-, hit it back. PS: Sorry I can't spell, Oh yeah and Don't take it to personal. Trigg
A Soldier Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 Oh yeah, and one more thing, our Armed Forces must be proportional to protect our population. Obvoiusly a country the size of Rode Island wouldn't have our Armed Forces. But if we seize there stuff like that we will just cause Worldly chaos as they will try to stop us, then we'll have to kick there -*BAD WORD*-, they'll run away, and we'll be stuck with the bill kuz they won't pay.what the -*BAD WORD*-? That's one absurb argument...here's some fact1 China - 1' date='256,167,701 2 India - 1,017,645,163 3 United States - 274,943,496 4 Indonesia - 219,266,557 5 Brazil - 173,790,810Â [/quote']so if we take into consideration your argument, china should be the country with the most military, followed by India? And how come Indonesia or Brazil don't get even CLOSE to the USA when it comes to military?
Tascar Posted June 2, 2004 Author Report Posted June 2, 2004 I too am unemployed, dealing with the fact that much of my job has been outsourced to India. Do I like it? No. But do I support the actions of a president who listened to 90% of his congress when the decision to take action was announced, yes. I don't support finger pointing, no genuine plan people like John Kerry. If we are all sitting here complaining about our economic situation, shouldn't his primary and number one focus be that? If not, how about something like building foreign relations? Has Kerry outlined a plan for effectively managing that? Ok, how about education? What's his stance on that? Oh, you don't know? Me either, because he has none. Instead John Kerry's role is Bush bashing -- which any idiot can do.
Trigger Happy Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Instead John Kerry's role is Bush bashing -- which any idiot can do.Agreed Tascar, Agreed But if we seize there stuff like that we will just cause Worldly chaos as they will try to stop us, then we'll have to kick there -*BAD WORD*-, they'll run away, and we'll be stuck with the bill kuz they won't pay. Oh yeah and A Soldier, Its not like I was completely serious with that statement. Don't act so ignorant. http://www.aneki.com/richest.html (World Richest) Wow, the US is second to the richest net income in the world? Even in Asia, China or any of the others aren't high, in fact South Korea is higher actually :/ Hmm http://www.aneki.com/asia_richest.html (Asian Richest) Armies can only be proportional to there size if they can afford to pay there soldiers. Well I mean there is always forced enlistment, but you can only force someone for so long with out getting serious rebellion. Also a Army must be large enough to protect its people against its enemies, now... if you have more enemies than most maybe you should have a bigger Army nae? Oh wait, and if you are the worlds Superpower, every one wants some of your wealth, I would.
Zetirix Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 I'm sorry you lost your job, but am I suppose to feel bad about my pay check? Dude I'm in the Military, Join up its great. HA! But no really its a good steady pay check and I almost definatly won't go to offical "War" but hey thats the good ol' Air Force.I'll be enlisting in the Air Force somewhere around August 9th. Against the requests of some others tho. Wow, the US is second to the richest net income in the world?US may be large in the income department, but look to where it's all going. Surely not into a state that needs badly needed funds for schools, or job creation. I've only lived in two counties in this state, and both are under academic emergencies because of poor tests scores turned in. Also the city I'm living is just lost a worldwide company in Rubbermaid because of them being "undersold" by Wal-Mart. They're taking over 800 jobs to Mexico. Oh, so who else thought this was good lesgislature? ELECTED CONGRESSMEN Who voted for them? .. Holy -*BAD WORD*-, it was, it was you. Acutally I didn't vote for any elected official currently in office in Congress. Except for George Voinovich, but he needs to come back to being our governer. The facts that the US's "interests" are coming before the people who therein live, is what pisses me off. The sad thing about Kerry is that he almost has to finger point Bush out and his administration is plainly obvious. He's got to make himself look good for the people who don't care about politics. The problem I see is that people who don't even care about what's going on, or what's happening to anyone... still get a vote. In the upcoming election, my vote is for neither Kerry nor Bush... but I don't really have the time to research or convince others on how to vote simply because I don't have the time. - Z
Trigger Happy Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Congradulations on enlisting, Basic is so easy. I'll give you any tips you want sometime if you are interested. As for Education I don't really know much about that nor follow it, I think its on the parents mainly to make sure the kids school is decent and to make sure the student is doing all he can, but I'm sure some schools are under-par. I think that might have something to do with the area mainly. I have to agree with you on a lot of fronts Z, I won't vote for either. I think Bush has done a lot of good and taken a lot of fustrated heat for stuff that wasn't truely his fault. He as with anyone has made some mistakes but its not like he did things alone. I think its funny how Congress and such point out Bush as a bad man and his plans aren't working, when they are the ones who passed them. All in All the thing I hate about the USA is that its all -*BAD WORD*- and No balls. oh and the Dallas Cowboys.
Tascar Posted June 2, 2004 Author Report Posted June 2, 2004 woot, vote for me as a write in. As president I will: - Feed the poor.- Provide subsidies for teachers in low-income/hostile school districts.- Eliminate medical insurance. Provide medical coverage to all citizens.- Bring all standard military personel home to provide police, patrol, fire, and guard coverage across the nation.- Crack down on child porn, child rape, child kidnapping, and anything done to children. Create a special department which is devoted to this 24/7.- Legalize many drugs while increasing awareness of altercations of drugs. If we can drink ourselves to death, why not let drugs be drugs.- Increase government grant programs and the awareness of such.- Restart the "Save a Tree" campaign. oh - and allow women to go topless in all public areas! woot!
Trigger Happy Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 No way vote for me: I will: I'm Military War Hero <-- Hahah Burn Gettos that just shoot each other and what not thanks to Bill Cosby as my Homland security Rep. Tascar will be my Vice because of his last line oh - and allow women to go topless in all public areas! woot! Eliminate Social Security Increase Military and Use the money to make the space program more like Star Wars or Seaquest. I would close all borders and use my increased military to deturn illegal imigrants. They can still come in legally, but enough those border jumpers. oh Yes, Legalizing drugs like the Netherlands and other countries. You can carry so much, but stay away from the pounds! Oh yeah, Advertise Subspace so that everyone in the world plays. Perhaps even make a Subspace 2 (NO not Cosmic Rift, but a real SS2 like VR or something!) mmmmmmm and Marry me a hot girl, any voluneteers for my wife (Not Tascar ) or staff??
Tascar Posted June 2, 2004 Author Report Posted June 2, 2004 Here's your wife: http://www.shanky.com/images/girls/elin_gryndemyr2_.jpg
A Soldier Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Oh yeah and A Soldier, Its not like I was completely serious with that statement. Don't act so ignorant. http://www.aneki.com/richest.html (World Richest) Wow, the US is second to the richest net income in the world? Even in Asia, China or any of the others aren't high, in fact South Korea is higher actually :/ Hmm http://www.aneki.com/asia_richest.html (Asian Richest) Armies can only be proportional to there size if they can afford to pay there soldiers. Well I mean there is always forced enlistment, but you can only force someone for so long with out getting serious rebellion. Also a Army must be large enough to protect its people against its enemies, now... if you have more enemies than most maybe you should have a bigger Army nae? Oh wait, and if you are the worlds Superpower, every one wants some of your wealth, I would.okayy lmao alright, first of all, I couldn't know you weren't "completly serious" about it. I've seen people post useless -*BAD WORD*- that I wouldn't have been impressed if what you posted really was. Anyways, okay, my bad. You say that the US is second to the richest income in the world. Facts prove it, indeed. But do you know who controls the majority of that wealth? You think it's you? Or other americans who work 40hours/week? Guess what? Nope, they don't. Major companies CEOs, politicians, thoses are the people who do. Did you know over 30 millions americans live in povrety? Fortunatly, thank God you are the second richest country in the world and you do something for them! Armies proportional to their pop's size if they can afford it? Okay... what for? Enemies? What enemies does Brazil have? What enemies does Canada have? What enemies does Germany have? Oh wait, maybe it's because the US has more enemies that all of theses countries that they feel they should have a bigger army? But why? Is it because you didn't ratify Kyoto?Is it because you invaded Afghanistan?Is it because you invaded Iraq and gave no serious proof about your invasion?Is it because you don't give a -*BAD WORD*- about the UN?Is it because you don't give a -*BAD WORD*- about the rest of the world? We want your wealth? LoL! Come one, be serious for a moment, the US controls a good part of the world's wealth right now. Perhaps its big problem is that, on this 21st century, your country is still imperialist? propaganda - information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause Ever thought about what you listened on the TV or the radio and say to yourself: "and what if it wasn't true?" Oh I see, you weren't completly serious about what you posted... right?
Dav Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Do not see the War on Iraq, as USA saved Iraqi People, see it as USA tried to fix one of his plenty messes (sp?) in the World. -nintendo64I just wonder when we (as a US citizen) will stop "fixing" the world, and remember that our own country needs help. Up for toss is: 1) Under Clinton, we had almost 0% unemployment. (I for one, under Bush, am now unemployed.) 2) Under Bush, we no longer have government surpluses we had with Clinton. 3) Under Clinton, "We never inhaled." 4) Under Bush, we are having to pay 250% gas and oil costs. How could he justify this? There's two sides I see here, Bush... smart guy, dumb mistakes, probly self centered. Gore, perfectly incapable of leading any kind of war... which would "I as an American" have? Nice job, government spending here, compared to... what do we have here... ? - Z this is a point i think sums up bush very well. Its a classic case in polotice where the internal affeares are messed up so to look good leaders go fight to "save the world" because usually their population will back them in times of war. Questions we have to ask are: 1. was war with taliban inevitable? Anser is no in my opinion, any learer would have done the same byt prehaps handled it better. 2. Was war with iraq inevitable? In my opinion yes, or at least for now. Saddam may he been "evil" or a "horrible dictator" but where are the WMDs? They were the reason for war and the UN resolution being broken so it goes to show that bush made a bad decition to go without UN backing. You now say how bad gore is, the thing about polo!@#$%^&*ions is thay say dirrent things to what they will do, somtimes that may be for the better and mabye for the worst. In my opinion its a shame clinton was only allowed 2 terms in office because he was superd and achieved so much. Comparitivly its a god send that bush will only have one more term if he wins the elections. Then we just have to wait fo the next bust and it will all start again...
Tascar Posted June 2, 2004 Author Report Posted June 2, 2004 Opk Dayv, I fnik that I witl punder wat yo have to say aftr u get a edumacation! Anyway whilest you are beating the dead horse: Afghanistan harbored terrorists -- end of that discussion. Iraq was suspected of harboring terrorists, funding terrorism against the US and its allies (yes, your country too), constructing or in the development of WMD's for offensive tactics, and its leader was killing its own people. The UN was CREATED BY and ESTABLISHED BY the US. Show me the UN laws stating that any nation cannot act in the interest of its own security. I would however love to see a new US policy. We should let small countries be invaded by larger ones, allow major catastrophies to go unaided in foreign countries, and close up technological advances made by the US to any other country. I would suspect that you will be crying "why don't you yankees help other countries?" Then, when someone comes to screw with us, we'll banish them from our little world and forget about their problems -- or just nuke em off the face of the planet. Isn't that what you want? Let's face it, it's one earth, only one, and we all have to live here in these current times. Things don't always go as planned - matter of fact they rarely do, and people are faced with tough decisions. Stop crying.
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