Ballkilling-General rule in SS

[BlueC]

Ball-killing in Spawn Area/Main/Active safes are illegal.

 

Reason: Safes are for AFKs.

If people are allow to Ball-kill here, it would defeat the point of "safe."

 

 

Ball-killing in Base enterance/pit points/just sector 6's safes. are legal.

 

Reason: Safes enable trojan attacks, spread the frontline out. Safes are for friendly AFKs. Ball-killing would defeat trojan attackers, and minimize the frontline. Friendly AFKs can serve as backup.

 

If people are not allow to ball-kill in these safes, it would disrupt game play. A player will out wait the controling freq, a threat that will increase game time and must be eliminated.

 

The effort in trying to ball-kill someone in these safes are proportional to the threat of a nme in safe in base.

 

Don't you mods read the great book of guildlines of subspace?

Every zone has a simular rule, and it's reason are valid.

If your going to say HS is special, I'd take it you meant re-*BAD WORD*-ed.

 

(NikeGurl. :muhah: )

[NinjaMantis]

Your past two posts seemed very philosophical at first, until you called this zone re-*BAD WORD*-ed, which among other things, is highly uncalled for. However, I do know one thing, and that's the fact that Gravitron fully supports your opinion in that !@#$%^&*et.

Few people ballkill these days. Even so, they rarely do it in the center against AFKs. I myself use the ball as an AFK test. If they don't move and I didn't see them run into safe to dodge bullets, they're AFK. In bases, people rarely think of using the safes or killing the few people that do. The safes in Base could hardly be used as a deploy point because no base safe is accessible to the Lancaster for that reason. There exist only 3 reasons to hide in the base safe. First, to stay away from the action of the center, second, to block thors, and third, to keep a cheap antiwarp on the enemy in Base 1 or 6.

I'm right now trying to figure out why you called HS re-*BAD WORD*-ed, since all you've done is speak of certain rules.

[Animate Dreams]

The only reason that you're even able to ball-kill, is so people can't run into a safe with the ball. That's the only reason I know of. Your reasons are stupid, your excuses were ignorant. You think anyone would've put a safe zone there if they didn't want people to be safe? >_< Think a bit more. Remember, even in zones where the staff is retarted, the rules are usually made by someone that isn't, at least for the zones that ever have people in them, anyway.

[Bomook]

the safe zones in bases are in the front anyways, and it's very easy to move back to accommodate enemies hiding in them. If an enemy gets as far as the central safes in sector 6... well, then that's your own fault for letting him in so far. Besides, there are six bases without safety zones; you can simply choose to use one of them.

 

The only current annoyance that I know of players hiding in base safety zones is if they afk there and leave antiwarp on. Hopefully this can be solved with a special module though

[Dav]

dont you have to move to pick a ball when afk?

[Yupa]

spec is safe

 

and in HS you don't even have to worry about losing your ship items when you spec

 

so you have nothing to complain about

[BlueC]

Ninja, you tried too hard to sound smart. The re-*BAD WORD*-edness was implied toward a certain mod who may disagreed with the stated reason. This certain mod believes that ballkilling is out right illegal. Note "if" and "may" means that HS is not re-*BAD WORD*-ed. Stupid zealot...

 

The interesting thing is, there seems to be a short delay, or some kind of detection that let ss know someone is AFK or not. As I've ball-killed someone who is supposively afk and not moving in sector 6's central safe.

 

Moving back to an accommodate an enemies is stupid, in flaging every inch counts.

The choice of base is aside from the point. The point is to tell the certain mod that she shouldn't be a mod if she can't decide if ball-killing is legal or not in base.

 

Special module wont be needed if you can just ball-kill the baster. This depends on how it is determined that a player is active and would pick up the ball in the safe. Otherwise, a no anti-warp in center and safes-module would be nice.

[NinjaMantis]

I enjoy sounding smart, because it's what the morons which make up the entirety of our beloved Moron Race (AKA the Human Race) have to do to get real attention.

[Bomook]

Moving back to an accommodate an enemies is stupid' date=' in flaging every inch counts.[/quote']

Okay, it does matter if you're fighting against another freq of equal power and skill, but the other 95+% of the time, it doesn't matter at all .

 

This certain mod believes that ballkilling is out right illegal.

The point is to tell the certain mod that she shouldn't be a mod if she can't decide if ball-killing is legal or not in base.

...umm... it seems to me like she already made up her mind <_<

[FunkmastaD]

Stop hating on a nameless female mod here

Just because you allowed them in doesn't mean you cheat to get them out.

They can't really do anything, the safes are too small for lanc's, and as long as you have antiwarp they aren't leaving unless they die, ship change or spec.

And you can always retreat to a point just after the safe so they are still in front of your front line defence

[nikegurl637]

Can't really decide whether ball-killing was legal? Hey, I said ball-killing was illegal and I enforced it.

 

And thank you for that lovely NikeGurl. Banned! sign. So very mature of you. Of course I'll be banned for enforcing a rule. And you made this whole post just to get me off staff? *shakes head* Silly...

 

Oh, and next time you talk about a certain mod... just go out and say who the mod is. You blew the "secrecy" of who the mod was by mentioning the gender.

[Wargh!!!]

Ok.

Here's how i see it.

A mod enforced a rule that she thought was suitable.

That is her right to do so.

 

You broke that rule, BlueC.

You got punished.

 

Seriously, dont make a fool of yourself by posting here,

just get over it.

[BlueC]

Well, ninja kind of didn't get the point first so the gender thing was unveiled! *shame*

I am not trying to get you kicked off staff Nike, thats not my bussiness. You have nothing to be insecured about.

 

Am I here for you to judge as being mature or to say that I can't accept what is? Well if you think so, thats very self-serving and don't fool yourself and go off topic.

 

Take homocide for instant. It's illegal. But if it was in self defend, it's legal.

 

Rules are flexible, as much as the enforcers are.

I found that Nike's view on this rule is, unorthodox. Just like how every politician comes out with a view stand, Nike's view has voiced her. The public has a choice to share that view or not, and respond according. That is if the mod system is republic at all.

 

If you can all bare a moment and think about how the ball-killing rule is enforced by Nike and colleaques, you'd think it's stupid too.

 

I am not mature, screw you.

 

 

Respawn ball every 10 minute if not goal or not.

Make balling worth a little bit more.

Balance the screwed up game. Seiges are rediculous, wall burst repel! -_-'

[NinjaMantis]

I don't use bursts in sieges, actually, and less people are using reps effectively in sieges, these days.

It's legal for you to complain, yes, but whether or not you get your point across is different. As for the mods, I've seen several mods that oppose ballkilling, even in bases. I've even been fined for it. Do I complain? No. It makes sense, that's why. Just like everything ELSE involving rule breaking. The only rules I see less enforced would be swearing and center-antiwarp. I say the former because if it were enforced with, possibly, less warnings, and immediate punishment for people who retort a warning with another vulgarity, it may be better. I rarely see any mods enforce the latter.

[BlueC]

The world is a bad mean place. I know.

[FunkmastaD]

Well you might not see the rule enforcing but it does happen, since most of the warnings are PM'd to people from me now

 

Take homocide for instant. It's illegal. But if it was in self defend, it's legal.

 

Worst analogy ever...I mean base ball killing isn't like killing in self defence.

You can only get away with that if and only if the person you killed was obviously trying to kill you

Base ball killing is more like being unable to beat someone in any compe!@#$%^&*ion because they use legal but lame tactics and you get annoyed and are forced to cheat to win.

You have him/her pinned in a corner of the base all you gotta do is wait and maybe leave 1 strong ship back to cover you while using antiwarp so they can't get away with flags.

Just because you can't base right doesn't mean you need to ball kill people

[BlueC]

If thats the kind of game you want. I have no problem with it.

 

Base ball killing is a form of defence, what is there to deny but your ignorance?

However it may be lame or illegal in your view, it's purpose in the stated reasons are for defence.

 

The analogy was to illustrate that rules are never straight forward, and varies depending on the enforcer and situation.

 

I am sorry that I am so hard to comprehend, I am only a small child after all.

 

 

Base ball killing is more like being unable to beat someone in any compe!@#$%^&*ion because they use legal but lame tactics and you get annoyed and are forced to cheat to win.

 

-_-' well in this case they are in a safe and your unable to beat someone at all unless you ball kill the guy.

 

This just an annoyance that can be do with out.

I will state agian:

 

Respawn ball every 10 minute if not goal or not.

Make balling worth a little bit more.

Balance the screwed up game. Walls are dead locks.

[NinjaMantis]

Now that makes more sense, Walls do make sieges deadlocks, since no one bothers with ANYTHING ELSE.

Respawning the ball every ten minutes would be annoying. First off, it'd defeat basing the ball. Second, some mods, if you ask nicely, will remove the ball from a base. Third, suppose you're holding the ball when the 10 minutes come up. Vwoop, you're warped into the center sector, with the ball, little energy, right into a stream of bullets if you're unlucky (right in the goal, if you're lucky).

Balling could do to be worth more. Then, we'd have more ferocious balling games, which would prevent people from scoring and just as much money would be made on average! No loss, Mods! It's a sound idea, at good.

As for Funk's quote, he's calling it cheating because, currently, it IS considered illegal.

[FunkmastaD]

Base ball killing shouldn't need to be even a thought for removing people from safes in a base...

It's really not that hard to kill 1 person.

And the ball doesn't need to be placed in the base in the first place I really don't see the need to annoy a bunch of people who only want to score goals to make some money

Do you honestly have to be that greedy, if you let them fight for the ball in the center the JP will rise just as fast if not faster and most people will leave you alone allowing you to win easier.

Basing the ball is stupid in my opinion and even though it's not illegal to do so if the people who want to ball are denied by an unstopable team I'll usually add a ball for a short period of time or just reset the ball's position.

Everyone needs a chance to make money so that there is equal compe!@#$%^&*ion in the zone and not a rich/poor status separation where the rich people crush the poor.

[BlueC]

Whooo!~ *applauds* <3

 

It's amazing how 5 people can ruin 10 people's day.