Xen Posted April 10, 2004 Report Posted April 10, 2004 Well, I got this idea while I saw mike bot killing evrything which fly around him the other day... What if, we put one turret ship, wich cant move, at enter of each bases? The ship would have special features from other ships but since it cant move, it could be balanced and well used to defend. Could be affective to by adding a xradar to it and prevent cloackers invasion... The person who would like to use the turret would type like !turret to bot and he would be automaticly wapred to the turret of his freq. Well thats still an idea.. wich could add some features to 17th gameplay.. tell me what you think, and if you would love we done it.. Xen Quote
Xen Posted April 10, 2004 Author Report Posted April 10, 2004 lol you can do that in metal gear? Never really played there, I dont like new cool gfx zones but oh well.. its not like they invented subspace to Quote
Xen Posted April 10, 2004 Author Report Posted April 10, 2004 But uh oh, I love cowboy bebop of course.. Quote
Tipme Posted April 10, 2004 Report Posted April 10, 2004 you mean like...?buy turretand a turret will spawn where you are? Quote
»Maverick Posted April 10, 2004 Report Posted April 10, 2004 No (This is what I understand)The turret is a special, reserved ship which you can't enter normally. When you do '!turret on' to a bot, the bot warps you to a turret place at your own base in the reserved turret ship. This way you can defend your base against all kinds of "threads". -MMaverick Quote
Xen Posted April 10, 2004 Author Report Posted April 10, 2004 Euhmm yea possibly, it could be a ?buy, adding some value to being in the turret, then it warp you at the turret location of your freq, im thinking about puting one in front middle of each doors Quote
Xen Posted April 10, 2004 Author Report Posted April 10, 2004 Oh yea.. tru Mav is kinda right, it would be much more less complicated with a reserved ship to this,it would need the help of the bot otherwise but I think evrything can be done with a bot though, or almost Quote
Aileron Posted April 12, 2004 Report Posted April 12, 2004 hmmmm..... What they have in MG is the Shark set up so that it can't move and can't be repped, and its given a turrent like appearence. All you can do to move it is attach to another ship. You could either stay attached to that ship for offense, or dettach to defend a position. In 17th, one really doesn't need the bot. All people would have to do is attach to another player. This requires a player to move around the defending base to set turrets, but if yor freq does not have any players in a certain base, its your own fault that the nme gets an EZ goal. The easiest way to do this in 17th would be to increase the levi's rotation and remove its capacity to move. This won't change the game much, because the Levi is used as little more than a stationary turret anyway. Quote
cloudy Posted April 12, 2004 Report Posted April 12, 2004 Thats what the levi used to be! Miss that levi. A bot fighting? I think thats stupid. 17th has lots of players to attach to and turret on. No need for bots. Quote
Delic Posted April 12, 2004 Report Posted April 12, 2004 I don't think you understood what was said cloudy.. they're not saying that a bot would be fighting lol, re-read The easiest way to do this in 17th would be to increase the levi's rotation and remove its capacity to move. Increase the rotation? Sigh.. it's too fast already. This won't change the game much' date=' because the Levi is used as little more than a stationary turret anyway.[/quote'] ..no comment.. People still have ignored the ultimate solution to all pub setting problems!Restore 'em to how they were before Nurples touched them $ (with a new fighter replacing the weasel that would be easy to design and reduced burst damage)ez-pzAha! Quote
Aileron Posted April 12, 2004 Report Posted April 12, 2004 Levis too fast already? I for one have no problem staying behind them. Using a nearby wall and bouncing off of it helps with that. Quote
cloudy Posted April 12, 2004 Report Posted April 12, 2004 Well, I got this idea while I saw mike bot killing evrything which fly around him the other day... What if, we put one turret ship, wich cant move, at enter of each bases? The ship would have special features from other ships but since it cant move, it could be balanced and well used to defend. Could be affective to by adding a xradar to it and prevent cloackers invasion... The person who would like to use the turret would type like !turret to bot and he would be automaticly wapred to the turret of his freq. Well thats still an idea.. wich could add some features to 17th gameplay.. tell me what you think, and if you would love we done it.. Xen Thats what I was talking about Delic, should have quoted eh? HE is talking about a turret bot right? Or is he talking about having a ship with settings as a turret that cant move like in MG? But then why would you need a !attach command if its not a bot? I may be thinking of somthign else.... Quote
Tipme Posted April 12, 2004 Report Posted April 12, 2004 i was thinking more in the lines of...ok lets take weasel out and turn it into a turret shipthen some !buys turret for xxxxxxx amount of moneythe turret will spawn and fire at any enemy nearby at a given radiuslike they had in desert storm in home bases Quote
Xen Posted April 12, 2004 Author Report Posted April 12, 2004 Oh, when I talk about "turrets", it would be kind of defensive turret, STUCK, in front of each base, with special capabilty(xradar,repel,thors,etc), not a "turret" on a ship... And the bot, could be used to set what you want on this turret (the specials) And YES.. I would sacrifice anytime the annoying weasel to do it.. really... Also euhmm.. making a ship unmovable... I dont think its propriety of metal gear because its all about the settings.. its been done already before mg. Dunno it could add some great feature to 17th witout shocking to much pub players and even, I think they gonna love it Quote
Cid Firefist Posted April 13, 2004 Report Posted April 13, 2004 don't touch my weasel...unless you are exchanging cloak and stealth for an extra portal and thor make the lanc a turret ship if anything since all it is used for is to shrap in bases anyways Quote
nez Posted April 13, 2004 Report Posted April 13, 2004 I dont think Ricebowl is qualified to say anything about 17th, unless its changes to the forum. DKR much the same, except without even that. I dont think it would really work, however, isn't it possible for the bot to adjust any ships settings as well as warp it to a coordinate? I don't think anyone would be pleased if you removed any of the current ships. Could make for an interesting event at anyrate. Quote
Xen Posted April 13, 2004 Author Report Posted April 13, 2004 Personally, and I think its the case of alot of vet (like we care about vets but..) dont like to much this overpowered weasel.. and the fact it can p!@#$%^&* through tube.. scraping all the fun fighting at the goal room door. I dont say if 17th would have 60 people all the time.. but there have not enough people to chase the ball, attack, go score, bomb the tube, at same time. So there always a tiny weasel enterering in goal room by tube and come mess all the fight lol.. My opinion is the ship would be perfect to do it since it doesnt match with other ship rate and scraping the gameplay D: Quote
»Maverick Posted April 13, 2004 Report Posted April 13, 2004 Like Nez said, you dont need to reserve a ship as turret. You can also prize an existing ship with an engine shutdown and a bot can warp this ship at a turret location. This way you don't need to remove a whole ship and any ship can be used as turret, ofcourse levi will be used most of the time as turret I think. -MMaverick Quote
Delic Posted April 13, 2004 Report Posted April 13, 2004 I agree with Xen about the weasel though, it's the worst thing that ever happened to 17th since... well since the old weasel haha Quote
Aileron Posted April 13, 2004 Report Posted April 13, 2004 Hey, don't change the Weasel. Its a good ship thats fairly easy to kill if you can properly use your X. Quote
Delic Posted April 13, 2004 Report Posted April 13, 2004 It would be stupid to tweak the shipsetts more if you ask me, either scrap it all and start all over or leave it alone.Of course, changing back to before we got all these problems would be ideal Quote
Xen Posted April 13, 2004 Author Report Posted April 13, 2004 Oh yea engine shut down and a warp eh, could work to (-*BAD WORD*- I want to eliminate that weasel.. D:) hehe but nah, could be good.. but its like.. is someone will go in the stuck turret when itsjust a normal levi? They arent fools they gonna take a moving levi I think lol.. thats why we need to add some special features to it Quote
cloudy Posted April 15, 2004 Report Posted April 15, 2004 It would be stupid to tweak the shipsetts more if you ask me, either scrap it all and start all over or leave it alone.Of course, changing back to before we got all these problems would be ideal I agree Delic. ( would go here ) BRING BACK 17th 2000 EDITION! Quote
Radiohead Posted April 19, 2004 Report Posted April 19, 2004 i completely understand what xen is saying and i think its a good idea. so there! btw: weasel can be fun, but it can also ruin the fun (like what xen said) I agree with Xen about the weasel though, it's the worst thing that ever happened to 17th since... well since the old weasel haha ^lol^ Quote
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