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I've been playing this game since 1996. I decided a few months ago to put in some effort and learn 4v4. I find the more experienced players willfully make it harder than it should be to even PLAY let alone improve. Then, a more experienced player will join a freq with some newer guys and THROW THE PRAC. Experienced players going 0-3 in just a few minutes.  And then they have the nerve to act like the lesser experienced players should somehow be just fine with that. As if a newer player is going to keep sitting and watching, waiting for his turn to play and then when that time comes just not get to play at all  or have the prac sabotaged by an experienced player and then "keep their mouth shut" about it. SS has always had loud mouths and a lot of venom but when the better players are pulling this kind of crap, I'm done playing SS. Enjoy yourselves.

 

You're about 10 years too late. You are basically stuck with learning with your squad. The chances of having a good prac even with "good" players in it are close to zero. One or two will just be drooling at the mouth and mash F3 screaming ZDEATHXJENKINS. The best bit about the suicidal vets is how they are still picked over someone who is actually trying to play.

 

Disabling !forcecap doesn't solve the issue for as long as there are arenas the people playing can move to. That is what the previously did. I should add a sticky FAQ about this.

 

Three, your squad is not #1, stop lying (huehuehuehuehue). I did not read most of the posts, but I have no idea why Nude For Satan could not have valuable input on rules/policies, regardless of his pracstats.

You do realize half the rules that are keeping players from playing league (like kicking people past a certain point to replace them with others) are in place mostly because _you_ are the abusive dick that had us make them up? That's your true contribution to league you useless twat :)

 

 

Well hi there Adolf, I'm sorry I bolted before the fire hoses and German Shepard’s arrived. I guess you didn't have the perimeter as secured as you thought! Fuck you Nazi. Do you honestly hate blacks that much.... the afterlife has an entire theme park lined up for you.

 

 

My squad is still number 1, assuming we can show our best and I don't fly my 4th best ship. Thanks for having matches played on American major holidays, btw. heahehahjdrfeshehjehjeh %^^&&&& kekekekekekekekeke.... you're white, look in the mirror. Side note: 7 minutes, sit in spec and keep talking. You did wonders game three of the finals last year - huge contributor... You're a doorstop, not a play maker. 

 

 

I haven't dictated league policy ever. I don't have that kind of power (I even removed myself from the council I suggested be made because of inaction). I may have said so and so squad hasn't showed two weeks so they should be kicked out, shrug. That is true (you're job to notice - EGO probably fits the bill this season but hey, I like bhang). I also have voiced my opinion on ship settings. If the last statement you made were true Candyman wouldn't have been on Requiem near the end of its last past season. You refused to remove him, like the huge douche you are. 20 thrust sharks wouldn't have been allowed had a sane person been in charge, nor would spray and prey terriers (was this Underlord? I really don't care) - alas, it happened, and it is what it is. That being said I want nothing to do with the job - you're doing a bang up job alienating everyone and pretty much pissing on everyone that types to you.

 

 

My true contribution is making new teams instead of staying on one stacked one for years on end. If I cared that much about winning titles I would never have LEFT the CHAMPIONS, whatever season it was. Would I have signed up against tak, Travis, Dingo, Mop, turb, etc. if I just wanted to win? Yeah I don't think so. Unlike you I prefer competition.

 

 

Why is it again the current map isn't updated.... something about subs having to download the map? ANHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH - yeah those map downloads just take up megs and GIGS of memory when subbing into a match blind. You're such a fucking putz. Update the map with the current champions.....

 

 

No..... Caerbannog........... There’s 2 e's in three. ehehehawhawhwhwahwaheawhewahewah DID U GET WHAT I SAUD THURRR??????  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh5JYhMDPo8

 

 

You'll have to type out Three once. and inertia, the second time, for this season.

 

 

I really hope Outlaws start you in the post season... but they won't.... they know better. They know I'll take your fucking head off.

 

 

As for B-hole - stop fucking complaining and play. Holy shit. If you were taking peoples heads off would you be complaining? No. Get better. You're a grown man - shave the neck beard off, get on the elliptical, and blow some ships up.

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Three, you wonder why I troll you?  You , and people like you, are a big reason this game is dying (Faster than it would otherwise)

 

LET THEM PLAY.  Perhaps play with 3 good players, 1 "newer" player on BOTH TEAMS? 

 

 

You're the guy that honestly believes Requiem 2.0 used the spider because of you and not Sterling. I don't care why you troll me - you just got sacked from Llama's for being a huge douche that can contribute lobs. Join backarrow - I'll be sure to personally sign off on a Level 3 bomb just for you, hand delivered.

 

Every season you run your mouth - every season you get jacked up. It's getting old.

 

I have zero interest watching shitty players play - ask other "good" players. Do they want to watch Joe Jr. and Mindriot battle it out? Or do they want to see Assassins play The Dark?

 

Yeah exactly. Rhetorical question.

 

You're the same guy who watches those Nissan Altima commercials thinking it's really handling like a race car. L O L. 

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Three, you wonder why I troll you?  You , and people like you, are a big reason this game is dying (Faster than it would otherwise)

 

LET THEM PLAY.  Perhaps play with 3 good players, 1 "newer" player on BOTH TEAMS? 

 

 

You're the guy that honestly believes Requiem 2.0 used the spider because of you and not Sterling. I don't care why you troll me - you just got sacked from Llama's for being a huge douche that can contribute lobs. Join backarrow - I'll be sure to personally sign off on a Level 3 bomb just for you, hand delivered.

 

Every season you run your mouth - every season you get jacked up. It's getting old.

 

I have zero interest watching shitty players play - ask other "good" players. Do they want to watch Joe Jr. and Mindriot battle it out? Or do they want to see Assassins play The Dark?

 

Yeah exactly. Rhetorical question.

 

You're the same guy who watches those Nissan Altima commercials thinking it's really handling like a race car. L O L. 

 

 

Yeah that's not going to happen. I've managed to build a pretty nice squad and i'll limit it to one douchebag. 

 

 

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The problem is pracs are almost exclusively held in the squad prac arenas and not regular prac arenas. Look at the composition of teams in the squad prac arenas. They are very rarely two squads practicing against each other or one squad taking both freqs. Have you noticed that season after season after season after season the one common complaint is the lack of enough players to fill out squads? Hell that has been going on for over 10 yrs alone. My stats are horrible but I still like to play 4v4 because it is FUN for me and I enjoy it regardless of my stats. I try my best and whatever happens happens. Trotting out your stats as a valid reason to boot people because they aren't "elite" in your book is a bit disingenuous and vain at the least. Its not like Bhole is some guy that just dl'd the game and is flying around clueless in a prac and screwing it up for the other players. For people that aren't on a league squad or considered "elite" it is very hard to get into a 4v4 practice. If I have cap or somehow make it into one and am asked cordially if I would spec for a squad member or good flying friend in subspace I always spec with no argument but just booting people arbitrarily is really a childish move. Shit wait 15 mins and when he loses, take the spot and roll on. 

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Three, you wonder why I troll you?  You , and people like you, are a big reason this game is dying (Faster than it would otherwise)

 

LET THEM PLAY.  Perhaps play with 3 good players, 1 "newer" player on BOTH TEAMS? 

well yeah that too PP :)

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As for B-hole - stop fucking complaining and play. Holy shit. If you were taking peoples heads off would you be complaining? No. Get better. You're a grown man - shave the neck beard off, get on the elliptical, and blow some ships up.

 

Look, you fucking dickhead, you are arguing that it's just fine for you to STOP people from playing when they have waited in line to do so. I don't have time for such second grade bullshit. Fuck you in every possible way. You demotivate people who are trying to get better and then you tell them to get better. I no longer give a fuck about getting better, in fact I'll never set foot in there again. Did I mention FUCK YOU?

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We had 4 prac-arenas going at the same time yesterday. assassins/td/similar in the big one. backarrow/llamas/ds level in number 2 and a complete mix of anyone allowed to play in the other two.

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The game has been this way for a long time.  You need to wait, that is just what it comes down to.  We've all been through this and we are all playing this for fun (or you are addicted).   The reason why teams FC is because they are probably looking for an opponent that will actually have a shot to compete vs them.  Especially when you are trying to play vs a pro tier team.  It isn't fun to beat up on newer players and actually it is my belief that it makes the pro players become sloppy.  By playing a team that is on par or in a close proximity helps sharpen players talents.

 

 

To help out in this scenario for people who are getting the short stick, I wanted to implement a more TW based arena.  I've mentioned and have been pushing for an arena more like TW where we can as captains of each frequency agree on a Teamsize (say 3v3, 4v4 or 5v5), have it a draft style where it can keep the game running smoothly with little breaks.  The reason for having the ability to switch Teamsize is because sometime there are only 6 people in the arena and it takes forever to get 2 more or if you want to dabble into 5v5 go ahead.  I've suggested doing this in one arena and keep the other the same.  

 

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We had 4 prac-arenas going at the same time yesterday. assassins/td/similar in the big one. backarrow/llamas/ds level in number 2 and a complete mix of anyone allowed to play in the other two.

It's true, gameday is a different beast altogether. Dropships filled an arena with intras both before and after (because, of course, "nude for satan you can barely keep your team in league" lololol) and there were many options ... although unaligned players can struggle for prac time due to everyone praccing as squads. After matches on Sundays is one of the best times for "randoms" to find openings ... other than they first or last pracs of each day (although the last ones will most likely be extremely uneven - candy said that yesterday there arenas with mixed tho yesterday which would have been heartening for those "randoms").

 

Two weeks ago I was asking mods about the possibility of a sixth arena (on matchdays) as we had 2 4's in a prac in two different arenas, and 4 more in waiting (refer "nude for satan you can barely keep your team in league") because all 5 arenas were in use.

 

Gameday is very different from run-of-the-mill weekdays. It still doesn't really resolve the day-to-day issues: one group of players getting squeezed out of being able to prac, and another tired of a lack of quality competition amongst those willing.

 

Magic beans to resolve subspace's pop decline would fix everything, but we don't have those beans right now. :(

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The game has been this way for a long time.  You need to wait, that is just what it comes down to.  We've all been through this and we are all playing this for fun (or you are addicted).   The reason why teams FC is because they are probably looking for an opponent that will actually have a shot to compete vs them.  Especially when you are trying to play vs a pro tier team.  It isn't fun to beat up on newer players and actually it is my belief that it makes the pro players become sloppy.  By playing a team that is on par or in a close proximity helps sharpen players talents.

 

Totally understand this and had the circumstances of the incident met your scenario I'd have been explaining to Mr. B-Hole the precise same reasoning. However the .cap was not forced to Pro-tier players.

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It isn't fun to beat up on newer players and actually it is my belief that it makes the pro players become sloppy.  By playing a team that is on par or in a close proximity helps sharpen players talents.

 

Ya. Let me ramble cause i like 7th's point. Sloppy because they might be impatient or if they don't care to try. And players can do things that will go unpunished that normally wouldn't... which is just not the way to get better. No use playing vs someone who's not able to finish a kill cause their aim sucks, in league you will be vs people who trap, team, and aim well; no benefit practicing vs people who suck.

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2v2, duel, watch, find ways to get better. All of us have been beginners at this game some point and i'm sure all of us have been force capped away from. (Unfortunately?) it's part of the grind and subspace experience.

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