Rage is banned for five (5) days.

[Caerbannog]

Since he figured out he'd just go ahead and sub himself.

 

http://svssubspace.com/logs/4v4squad21303221102Freq%20100vsFreq%20200.html

 

It's a bit late since that game was played a while ago. But still.

And Requiem please, if you're going to report cheaters to me, stop using "fullsub" in pracs. Thanks.

[ImDigs]

Subbing yourself burned is worse than someone subbing in and illegally changing ships to get a full repertoire of items.

 

Got it.

 

/logicfail

[Three]

Well Rage I was not exactly sober when this happened and apologized for drawing out the 5 lives thing, but I guess sorry again? I didn't want you to get banned.

 

 

No idea what you're talking about Grand Dragon Caerbannog. Man the KLAN be crazy these days.

Edited April 5, 2013 by Three

[ImDigs]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

[Three]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I see.

 

In that case I see nothing wrong with Candyman trying to simulate events that transpire during a match (using one full sub - completely legal in a match). What Rage was just banned for isn't allowed in a match.

 

I also think all lag outs should be burnt in a practice (just like a match). The idea being that there aren't enough staff members to police whether or not a player intentionally lagged themselves out to either not die or lose items. Max lag outs in practices should be set to 3 (looks at Macuto and shakes his head), just like a match. Time limit being 30 minutes instead of 45 I understand.

 

It seems counterintuitive to have practice rules differ from match rules when the entire purpose of practicing is to prepare for a match.... but hey, that's me.

 

Cheers.

[NuB KiNG]

so not only will you announce who is banned but you also announce who snitched him?

 

l0l

[Odin]

Free Partsi!

 

oh wait

 

wtf

[ImDigs]

To think that 4v4 practices should resemble match day as closely as possible is rather silly.  4v4 is a sub arena with it's own settings, and people play there for those specific reasons.  If you're going to make 4v4 practices like real matches, then remove access from all non-rostered players.  Hey, it will cut down on aliasing which isn't allowed in league!  It will also cut the current population by about 30-35%...doh!  Also remove !forcecap so teams like Requiem and Nuke cannot monopolize an arena for the entire night.  !forcecap isn't part of league and if 4v4 is meant to prepare for matches then everyone should have an equal opportunity.

 

You can't pick and choose which aspects of league you want to be enforced while ignoring the ones that may or may not apply to you personally.

 

Fullsubbing in a practice is pathetic and a douchebag move whether it's allowed in a match or not.

 

*If Rage subbing in BURNED for an open spot on a different alias during a practice is illegal, then so is subbing for full items in a practice.  Hell, even Caer said that if you're going to report cheating then don't fullsub in practices, which implies that it IS cheating.  I don't know how one is allowed but one isn't?  Maybe because people aren't so anal that they actually report Candyman cheating in practices.  On the other hand, if Caer knows about it and implies that it is illegal, why isn't it resulting in a delayed ban like Rage's so-called offense?

Edited April 6, 2013 by ImDigs

[Three]

To think that 4v4 practices should resemble match day as closely as possible is rather silly.  4v4 is a sub arena with it's own settings, and people play there for those specific reasons.  If you're going to make 4v4 practices like real matches, then remove access from all non-rostered players.  Hey, it will cut down on aliasing which isn't allowed in league!  It will also cut the current population by about 30-35%...doh!  Also remove !forcecap so teams like Requiem and Nuke cannot monopolize an arena for the entire night.  !forcecap isn't part of league and if 4v4 is meant to prepare for matches then everyone should have an equal opportunity.

 

You can't pick and choose which aspects of league you want to be enforced while ignoring the ones that may or may not apply to you personally.

 

Fullsubbing in a practice is pathetic and a douchebag move whether it's allowed in a match or not.

 

*If Rage subbing in BURNED for an open spot on a different alias during a practice is illegal, then so is subbing for full items in a practice.  Hell, even Caer said that if you're going to report cheating then don't fullsub in practices, which implies that it IS cheating.  I don't know how one is allowed but one isn't?  Maybe because people aren't so anal that they actually report Candyman cheating in practices.  On the other hand, if Caer knows about it and implies that it is illegal, why isn't it resulting in a delayed ban like Rage's so-called offense?

 

That is your opinion and you're entitled to it. I think you're wrong.

 

It's all boiler plate stuff anyway. Anything you or I say won't change how things are run. It never has and it never will.

[Caerbannog]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I see.

 

In that case I see nothing wrong with Candyman trying to simulate events that transpire during a match (using one full sub - completely legal in a match). What Rage was just banned for isn't allowed in a match.

 

I also think all lag outs should be burnt in a practice (just like a match). The idea being that there aren't enough staff members to police whether or not a player intentionally lagged themselves out to either not die or lose items. Max lag outs in practices should be set to 3 (looks at Macuto and shakes his head), just like a match. Time limit being 30 minutes instead of 45 I understand.

 

It seems counterintuitive to have practice rules differ from match rules when the entire purpose of practicing is to prepare for a match.... but hey, that's me.

 

Cheers.

 

Lag out limit at 3 was previously set. People would just get a new alias. Thus it was removed.

And prac rules just... are different. And you should not "emulate" fullsubs, just like no one "emulates" a match lag out.

 

And Legacy is gone for three days for subbing in for the opposing team and suiciding out. http://www.svssubspace.com/?page=Game&id=113835&season=0

[ImDigs]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I see.

 

In that case I see nothing wrong with Candyman trying to simulate events that transpire during a match (using one full sub - completely legal in a match). What Rage was just banned for isn't allowed in a match.

 

I also think all lag outs should be burnt in a practice (just like a match). The idea being that there aren't enough staff members to police whether or not a player intentionally lagged themselves out to either not die or lose items. Max lag outs in practices should be set to 3 (looks at Macuto and shakes his head), just like a match. Time limit being 30 minutes instead of 45 I understand.

 

It seems counterintuitive to have practice rules differ from match rules when the entire purpose of practicing is to prepare for a match.... but hey, that's me.

 

Cheers.

 

Lag out limit at 3 was previously set. People would just get a new alias. Thus it was removed.

And prac rules just... are different. And you should not "emulate" fullsubs, just like no one "emulates" a match lag out.

 

And Legacy is gone for three days for subbing in for the opposing team and suiciding out. http://www.svssubspace.com/?page=Game&id=113835&season=0

But you just banned people that are bypassing the rules to sub back in under different aliases, so that shouldn't be an issue.  I would say people lagging out 10+ times and coming back each time with their item list is far more of an everyday problem.  Furthermore, if people know that the penalty for subbing themselves after max lag outs is punishable by ban, they aren't going to do it unless they're just ignorant.  Heck, just do the simple thing, punish the laggers by removing their items.  At least that's a start in the right direction.

 

Also, how is admitting that someone is cheating by doing "fullsubs" in practice not being punished?  You witnessed it, as have others, more than likely many, many times.  It shouldn't take a "log" to prove anything when you're witnessing it first hand.

 

Or you could just decide to not ban either person since this happened in a practice and really didn't affect anyone or anything in the grand scheme of things.  I even say that about Legacy, which is one of the people that I dislike the most.  There are far greater problems in this zone/arena than people subbing in after they died (i.e. abuse of !forcecap).  People subbing in after they've died out isn't segregating or deterring the population which has a direct impact on league's longevity.

[Caerbannog]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I see.

 

In that case I see nothing wrong with Candyman trying to simulate events that transpire during a match (using one full sub - completely legal in a match). What Rage was just banned for isn't allowed in a match.

 

I also think all lag outs should be burnt in a practice (just like a match). The idea being that there aren't enough staff members to police whether or not a player intentionally lagged themselves out to either not die or lose items. Max lag outs in practices should be set to 3 (looks at Macuto and shakes his head), just like a match. Time limit being 30 minutes instead of 45 I understand.

 

It seems counterintuitive to have practice rules differ from match rules when the entire purpose of practicing is to prepare for a match.... but hey, that's me.

 

Cheers.

 

Lag out limit at 3 was previously set. People would just get a new alias. Thus it was removed.

And prac rules just... are different. And you should not "emulate" fullsubs, just like no one "emulates" a match lag out.

 

And Legacy is gone for three days for subbing in for the opposing team and suiciding out. http://www.svssubspace.com/?page=Game&id=113835&season=0

But you just banned people that are bypassing the rules to sub back in under different aliases, so that shouldn't be an issue.  I would say people lagging out 10+ times and coming back each time with their item list is far more of an everyday problem.  Furthermore, if people know that the penalty for subbing themselves after max lag outs is punishable by ban, they aren't going to do it unless they're just ignorant.  Heck, just do the simple thing, punish the laggers by removing their items.  At least that's a start in the right direction.

 

Also, how is admitting that someone is cheating by doing "fullsubs" in practice not being punished?  You witnessed it, as have others, more than likely many, many times.  It shouldn't take a "log" to prove anything when you're witnessing it first hand.

 

Or you could just decide to not ban either person since this happened in a practice and really didn't affect anyone or anything in the grand scheme of things.  I even say that about Legacy, which is one of the people that I dislike the most.  There are far greater problems in this zone/arena than people subbing in after they died (i.e. abuse of !forcecap).  People subbing in after they've died out isn't segregating or deterring the population which has a direct impact on league's longevity.

 

Of course it isn't, since they get banned for doing it.

The few times it was very intentionally done to get some suiciding idiot back in under an alias in stead of a player who was still playing the game kinda sucked, though.

 

Somehow the roster of Infinite comes to mind when thinking about that.

[ImDigs]

Then why not at least remove items from people that lag out multiple times?  I seem to recall the reason why it was made to re-prize the lost items was to aid newer players who were already in a steep learning curve environment - and to just make practices feel more like an entertainment than a pressure filled league match.  While that has been the outcome, it's become a form of abuse because some people seem to induce lag.  There should never be a reason why someone that has lagged out 3+ times is allowed to continue playing with no item loss.  Half the time it's the opposing team that is penalized by losing items because they are forced to burn reps on the lagger or wasted rockets/thors on him right before he lags to spec and avoids death.  There is literally no penalty for people that are forcing lagging in a zone that already had pretty relaxed lag limits.

 

Again, this is a far bigger detriment to the zone as a whole than the two occasions someone subbed in after dying out (and banning for someone subbing in to try and win the SQUAD PRACTICE seems ridiculous compared to someone subbing in on the other team after dying out to deliberately try and ruin the match by suiciding).

 

There needs to be situational judgment before just dishing out a ban.

[7th Saga]

This actually happens frequently (subbing in as an aliased player) along with sc'ing for items or so I've seen.  Maybe allowing 1 lagout to retain items and then any after that the loss of items.  I think this because some people get tab lag right away and lagout in 10 seconds then do not lag out again.  Also disabling the ability to manually SC would help.  Instead we have to literally type !sc 3   to the bot in order to change ship to spider and there could be a timer on this and for subbing in they'd have to type !sub 100:3  or !sub 200:3 like in games to get the desired ship without items otherwise they'd default to wb that is burned instead of a spider that is burned (which is already in place, but no one uses it because they just type sub and then esc # to the desired ship). 

[oldvet]

Why does Legacy get 3 days while Rage gets 5? They both returned under an alias after dying out. Rage subbed someone who was willing on his own team, while Legacy subbed in for a spot on the other team and sabotaged the practice. Legacy should get equal or more ban time.

 

All lagouts after the first should be result in a burn.

 

Forcecap should not be available for consecutive practices.

[NuB KiNG]

also legacy avoiding ban lolllll

[Candyman]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I was not aware of this fact. Perhaps im playing subspace during sleepwalks? Feel free to provide logs of these "often" events.

[ImDigs]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I was not aware of this fact. Perhaps im playing subspace during sleepwalks? Feel free to provide logs of these "often" events.

LOL @ denying you've ever subbed for items in a practice multiple times, or in consecutive practices.

 

Even the league admin has witnessed it.  That's why I don't quite understand why it wasn't punished right then and there....or 2 weeks later like Rage.

[7th Saga]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I was not aware of this fact. Perhaps im playing subspace during sleepwalks? Feel free to provide logs of these "often" events.

I've never logged anything or screenshot anything, but you've done this a number of times and have also pissed me off by SC'in when you were playing the whole game and were 0/0 LL because you were mad at team or opposing team for targeting someone and then proceeded to keep sc'ing to jav with full toys to run clock to ruin the arena.  You've done this at least twice to me.  Other people have done this too, so it isn't just you.

[Caerbannog]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I was not aware of this fact. Perhaps im playing subspace during sleepwalks? Feel free to provide logs of these "often" events.

I've never logged anything or screenshot anything, but you've done this a number of times and have also pissed me off by SC'in when you were playing the whole game and were 0/0 LL because you were mad at team or opposing team for targeting someone and then proceeded to keep sc'ing to jav with full toys to run clock to ruin the arena.  You've done this at least twice to me.  Other people have done this too, so it isn't just you.

 

Did this make you want to prac less or more?

I can see it working both ways, but the "I want to kill this MONKEYFLIPPER until he is MONDAY TO FRIDAY dead" rage play more pattern probably isn't the best for us

[Three]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I see.

 

In that case I see nothing wrong with Candyman trying to simulate events that transpire during a match (using one full sub - completely legal in a match). What Rage was just banned for isn't allowed in a match.

 

I also think all lag outs should be burnt in a practice (just like a match). The idea being that there aren't enough staff members to police whether or not a player intentionally lagged themselves out to either not die or lose items. Max lag outs in practices should be set to 3 (looks at Macuto and shakes his head), just like a match. Time limit being 30 minutes instead of 45 I understand.

 

It seems counterintuitive to have practice rules differ from match rules when the entire purpose of practicing is to prepare for a match.... but hey, that's me.

 

Cheers.

 

Lag out limit at 3 was previously set. People would just get a new alias. Thus it was removed.

And prac rules just... are different. And you should not "emulate" fullsubs, just like no one "emulates" a match lag out.

 

And Legacy is gone for three days for subbing in for the opposing team and suiciding out. http://www.svssubspace.com/?page=Game&id=113835&season=0

 

Not to try and prevent something that is blatantly unfair from happening because a player might try to get around it really should not be a practice that is followed. 

Edited April 8, 2013 by Three

[Caerbannog]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I see.

 

In that case I see nothing wrong with Candyman trying to simulate events that transpire during a match (using one full sub - completely legal in a match). What Rage was just banned for isn't allowed in a match.

 

I also think all lag outs should be burnt in a practice (just like a match). The idea being that there aren't enough staff members to police whether or not a player intentionally lagged themselves out to either not die or lose items. Max lag outs in practices should be set to 3 (looks at Macuto and shakes his head), just like a match. Time limit being 30 minutes instead of 45 I understand.

 

It seems counterintuitive to have practice rules differ from match rules when the entire purpose of practicing is to prepare for a match.... but hey, that's me.

 

Cheers.

 

Lag out limit at 3 was previously set. People would just get a new alias. Thus it was removed.

And prac rules just... are different. And you should not "emulate" fullsubs, just like no one "emulates" a match lag out.

 

And Legacy is gone for three days for subbing in for the opposing team and suiciding out. http://www.svssubspace.com/?page=Game&id=113835&season=0

 

Not to try and prevent something that is blatantly unfair from happening because a player might try to get around it really should not be a practice that is followed. 

 

True enough. But the other part in that rule revolves around the times when there aren't people to sub the laggers. Most of the time people have the common decency to sit games out if they are constantly lagging to spec. Not only does it suck for the opponents, but it essentially makes their team play 3v4 since you can't count on a lagger.

 

But yeah. When the limit was 3 and 8 people were on.. things got silly.

 

All in all, those are all Underlord's calls. But I'm pretty much fine with them, seeing as how the other options are very strict and not based on the league being what people make of it, but a nazi utopia. Plus they all require a staff of a gazillion to enforce each others' lag outs.

[Three]

He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub.  That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.

 

It's quite laughable, but not really.

 

I see.

 

In that case I see nothing wrong with Candyman trying to simulate events that transpire during a match (using one full sub - completely legal in a match). What Rage was just banned for isn't allowed in a match.

 

I also think all lag outs should be burnt in a practice (just like a match). The idea being that there aren't enough staff members to police whether or not a player intentionally lagged themselves out to either not die or lose items. Max lag outs in practices should be set to 3 (looks at Macuto and shakes his head), just like a match. Time limit being 30 minutes instead of 45 I understand.

 

It seems counterintuitive to have practice rules differ from match rules when the entire purpose of practicing is to prepare for a match.... but hey, that's me.

 

Cheers.

 

Lag out limit at 3 was previously set. People would just get a new alias. Thus it was removed.

And prac rules just... are different. And you should not "emulate" fullsubs, just like no one "emulates" a match lag out.

 

And Legacy is gone for three days for subbing in for the opposing team and suiciding out. http://www.svssubspace.com/?page=Game&id=113835&season=0

 

Not to try and prevent something that is blatantly unfair from happening because a player might try to get around it really should not be a practice that is followed. 

 

True enough. But the other part in that rule revolves around the times when there aren't people to sub the laggers. Most of the time people have the common decency to sit games out if they are constantly lagging to spec. Not only does it suck for the opponents, but it essentially makes their team play 3v4 since you can't count on a lagger.

 

But yeah. When the limit was 3 and 8 people were on.. things got silly.

 

All in all, those are all Underlord's calls. But I'm pretty much fine with them, seeing as how the other options are very strict and not based on the league being what people make of it, but a nazi utopia. Plus they all require a staff of a gazillion to enforce each others' lag outs.

 

 

The times when there aren't people to sub the laggers... most of the time people have the common decency to wait until you can get a 4th with the !spam command....

 

Teams that have the lagger also get the advantage of having a guy yoga teleport all over the screen while the other team wastes items that they don't get back on that lagger (then the lagger subs back in, with items). This is a more common occurrence then not being able to field a team because of a lagger. That is the main reason the !spam command exists. To get a sub.

 

Underlord's calls? I respect Underlord for whatever coding work he did for the bots and the site... however... I along with many others are questioning the calls of a college dropout that implemented 20 thrust sharks and juiced up terriers. "His" rules aren't infallible. He is fallible just like you and me. For league betterment you need to have some discernment and objectivity. Get past the personal shit, listen to those who are trying to help make the game better, and implement changes where they are needed. If you need coding help just fucking ask. If you need staff help, ask.

 

How is requiring someone fix their connection a "Nazi utopia"? There is only one person who is acting like a Nazi here. Not being open to changing rules because you're content with rules set in place years ago IS a "Nazi move". Suggestions made, specifically ones put together with reason (not a mirror's), are shot down or insulted. How is that productive? What value are you adding in your position if you aren't constructively and actively trying to improve league?

 

And no, I don't want your "job".

[hendrix]

I'm not quite sure why this was glanced over so quickly.... but the monopolizing of an arena, and forcecapping over, and over, and over..... is ridiculous. And that wouldn't even be that big a problem, if the stupid line didn't get fixed every time. I watched partsi get cap 7 times in a row last night, and every time it got forced to or from monkk's dumb team. I get not wanting Partsi in, but does it have to put him back infront every time so the same thing happens every time? The best part is it happens late, so once these ass holes are done, the arena is dead. 

 

In summary: Nuke is gay.

[Caerbannog]

I'm not quite sure why this was glanced over so quickly.... but the monopolizing of an arena, and forcecapping over, and over, and over..... is ridiculous. And that wouldn't even be that big a problem, if the stupid line didn't get fixed every time. I watched partsi get cap 7 times in a row last night, and every time it got forced to or from monkk's dumb team. I get not wanting Partsi in, but does it have to put him back infront every time so the same thing happens every time? The best part is it happens late, so once these ass holes are done, the arena is dead. 

 

In summary: Nuke is gay.

 

Correct solution, convince 8 people from spec to get a new arena rather than wait in line for a shot vs. the guys who have been monopolizing an arena =(

 

Forcecap wasn't always there.... lead to arena skipping and captains stuck on players, who have just claimed it and seen the opposing freq go for a rematch with random people in a new arena, going afk. Was very poopy.

 

"Requiring someone to fix their connection" is just what I mean by nazi utopia. How in the hell would anyone judge this consistently? You would have to know what the normal connection for each player is before you could even hazard a guess as to whether or not they could do better, and as such just might be downloading something. We have plenty of lagged people, or people who have been downloading since 98 arond.

And true, while some (like elmo) might suggest that Sika has a worse connection than some other Finns.... I don't think we can really force people to try a different ISP or physically move to a new place, in hopes of being allowed in a space ship. (I changed ISPs for SS reasons, though. Was fun. Now I can play and browse the intertubes regardless of hopone.net's NY routers)

Plus you would, after making 90% of the zone staff, end up with staff members regulating each other. Anything less than 90% or so, and the people just would not be around to do anything. It's all much more peaceful if the robot without much of a personality makes these calls. People just have to adhere to them... which they don't =(

 

I actually failed in this myself the other day. I was the captain of a glorious prac team and failed to boot a lagger after a win. So he lagged the following prac too, making it a 4v3 for us.