XP on Win7

[Cheese]

so let me tell you a story

 

windows xp is mostly stable

however, if it miscommunicates with your HDD about 3-5 times, it decides to revert to the PIO protocol to communicate with your hdd

unfortunately, this is like the oldest protocol in existence and eats about 70% of your cpu in hardware interrupts alone

even worse, you cant click the "fuck you windows, put it back" button, and the only way to fix it is to go in device manager and uninstall the offending IDE channel, which only fixes it for about an hour until you have to reboot to make the change permanent, after which it stays fixed for a few days.

this is all well and good, until windows fucks up the driver removal, at which point when you reboot it, it never comes back, and you get to watch fun blue screens

safe mode is also off limits

 

this happened to me, so i had to go in the filesystem and fix it

however, i used windows 7 to fix it, and it changes the file permissions to avoid "file access denied" messages, which is nice, and allows you to actually fix your files

however, it is bad because it changes your file permissions (chmod for u unix ppl)

 

so i fixed the windows installation, but since the permissions changed, the windows installation cant reach any of the files in things like windows/system32, and does fun things like asking me to reactivate windows, making none of my user profiles appear anywhere, or creating an account called Owner

 

anyone know anything about this?

[Dr Brain]

I took the liberty of deleting Avast's retarded posts from the thread. Clearly he couldn't read.

 

I don't personally know the answer to this, but HDD driver stuff never ends well.

[Cheese]

thank you

 

i have a bad habit of buying hard drives off ebay with the philosophy of "buy 10 for $1 and lose 1 > buy 1 for $10 and lose 0"

side effect is that i have to deal with crap like this

most of my hard drives have operating times > 30000 hours

i notice that hard drives usually begin to fail ~50000 hours

[Avast]

Still no idea what your problem is Cheese. You mixed in XP and Windows 7, and HDD issues, No clue what your asking. Be more specific and detailed.

 

Brain you can go around in every thread and claim things, doesn't make it true. (especially when you delete the evidence) Next time leave the posts, and move them to Avast can't read thread etc. This way other mods can decide if you know what I can or can't do, the more the merrier. I don't need someone whose itching to leave hyperspace forums, moderating me all over ssforums now.

Edited September 6, 2011 by Avast

[Cheese]

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[Avast]

You will never win vs me, because I can go forever, you will just call another mod.

 

But really I want to help you. I know lots about Windows 7 and XP. I can make it genuine, fix all the permissions, make your accounts active, just provide more detail, because your post is one big run on, with no point.

[Samapico]

I once had a toast HDD that kept freezing my system because of a lot of bad sectors... it might have been reverting to PIO or whatever as you say.

 

My answer would be:

1) Your HDD is toast

2) Just reinstall win7 from scratch and you're good, no?

[Avast]

See if his hard drive is toast why is he asking for help. This is why not sure what he wants and what even happened. Did he install over win XP completely? Is Win XP on another partition, or he upgraded winXP to win7 and kept all the files. Pretty confused why he even included win XP in this post if its nonrelevent at the present.

[Cheese]

or, i used win7 to fix a winxp installation, and win7 killed the permissions so xp cant read its own files

 

aka fixed but not usable

[Avast]

but xp doesn't have permissions, does it? Like XP alone, this permission thing came with windows 7 and Vista, XP OS is completely gone. So all that remains of XP is the files? System files should be replaced by win 7, so if you need to access personal files.. then Windows 7 can have the permissions set to let you.

 

But I never fixed an XP install with Win7. I see no reason why they would keep any XP system files. It should be a new OS. and keep personal files only. So Windows/SYSTEM32, should be all windows 7 files, therefore windows 7 permissions, so you can set the permissions to let you access. Since it should have no relation to XP anymore.

 

Anyway what you do is go to the C drive, and change all it's permissions. So click C: drive change permissions. It will take about 20 minutes or less. It changes the whole C drive at once, and every folder, sub folder, and file inside it. Its tricky, and you might end up in a loop or with an error message, so I would need screenshots, and step by step information from you. Also Windows 7 has it's own administrator account. You should delete any user accounts, and use and login to the administrator only which has it's added benefits. They keep this account Hidden. Because they have no care for what you want. etc. They just decide shit for you. They being retards at Microsoft.

 

net user administrator /active:yes

 

Type in CMD, run as administrator, restart PC. Go to user accounts, delete old user account, login to admin. The delete should save all your files to the admin. Google that to be sure. Since I have no time to tell you, or look it up.

 

Also an install of Windows 7, if it's just system files or an upgrade, will keep all files of previous OS in the C: Drive. It would be in a folder, but I forget what they called the folder. Anyway it's nice because you can install windows 7, and everything is backed up into a folder. It shouldn't place old windows installation into specific areas.. normally it's all in one folder in the C drive.

 

Also Windows 7 auto powers down the hard drive, when not in use. You might not want that, so go into power options and disable it.

 

As for making windows genuine, there are programs to crack it, or at least ways to disable the annoying messages. I can look it up later.

Edited September 8, 2011 by Avast

[Dr Brain]

Your very first sentence was wrong, rendering the rest of your post useless.

[»Lynx]

Perhaps Avast shouldn't be allowed to post in Technical Support?

 

@Cheese: I know nothing about the problem you're having as I have never experienced it but It sounds like there aren't any easy solutions. Perhaps you should look at backing up the data you have on that hard drive and doing a fresh install (although it sounds like you might need a new HDD).

[Avast]

Your very first sentence was wrong, rendering the rest of your post useless.

 

 

Cant be wrong since my first two sentances or more where questions I posed to cheese. Statements are wrong. Questions can't be wrong. Since they don't state anything but ask something.

 

Then I said specifically that I didn't upgrade from XP to Windows 7. Then I made it clear that I am assuming if it works the way I think it does, that XP has no permissions anymore since it would be replaced by Windows 7.

 

Then I went on to talk about windows 7 and how to make everything accessible. Assuming my assumption is correct. If not it doesn't matter.

 

So you saying "sentence wrong, rest of post useless" is not needed since I already made that clear. However even if the rest of the post turns out useless. It is not wrong. The Windows 7 permissions, and account info is all accurate. As well I want him to tell me I am wrong, and explain how. So I can better help him.

 

 

 

 

Rofl not allowed to post in tech support. Maybe you know programming, but I know more about computers than most of you.

Edited September 8, 2011 by Avast