so what retard gave corey forum powers

[Cheese]

no, he just doesnt care about who gets what

 

youre a retard

[Avast]

no, he just doesnt care about who gets what

 

youre a retard

 

He does what he wants without regard for others. Very similar to a troll.

 

Told you brain is a troll.

[spidernl]

Erm, your definition of a troll seems to be off. A troll tries to get some sort of emotional response from people he's "trolling". Your definition of troll seems to be more like "Someone who doesn't care about what others want".

Here's something interesting for you to read: troll @ wiki

 

Hyperspace is Dr Brain's zone. That means that he chooses what happens. Hyperspace is not a democracy. Players are allowed to have fun in it thanks to what's been built there, but they don't really have a say in what's changed, added.. and what isn't (unless whoever is developing chooses to). That has nothing to do with trolling.

 

And really, when was the last time that Dr Brain did something that was the opposite of what players in the zone wanted?

 

Edit: Lol, reading your post you really don't understand how Hyperspace is organized. It's not "if you don't like the players gtfo the game", it's "the players should gtfo if they don't like the game made for them".

And banning players = harming your zone? What? Generally players are banned because they're harming the zone, not the other way around.

 

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

 

Edit 2: Also, Cheese's idiocy has never been so easy to point out:

 

so what retard gave corey forum powers

Oh, and Brain gave me the forum power cheese, are you implying he's retarded?

no

Edited September 19, 2011 by spidernl

[Avast]

Sorry but if you tried to define me by those terms. You would be way off. I can actually troll while staying on topic. And I am on topic in every thread. I am also not limited to threads and forums. But it seems by their definition a troll is limited. They also mention Anonymity is what brings out trolls. But I am against smurfing. And never smurf. When I play under another name I tell everyone who I am. I often use the truth as a troll tactic. It's so easy to troll people because most people are liars. Either lying to themselves or everyone else. Therefore the truth is a viable method which is impossible to counter. This definition of a troll on wiki doesn't come close to what a troll god is. Trolls like that are easy to come by and even easier to go. Anyone looking for an emotional response, would themselves respond emotionally to everything. Therefore they would get trolled. I can not be trolled. With that said sure assuming your definition of a troll is correct. Then everything you said would have to be agreed upon. I am telling you your definition and the one they use is flawed. And maybe even 15 years old. The internet has evolved since then, standards change. Brain is a troll. As a troll I do not even need a response from someone to troll them. I just do what I want for my own entertainment. That is the real definition of a troll. And brain fits it perfectly.

 

And as a troll I have been banned from DSB countless times for "trolling" Basically making posts like I make here, or speaking like I do here. No racism etc, just my opinion, simple words, get me banned. Harming a zone right? People can use ignore if they were being harmed. Further everyone contributes to the game in their own way. How can you judge when someone is useless or harmful. True harm is cheating, or breaking some rule. If someone harms the zone and it's not in any rules that you made to prevent harm to your zone. That means you either failed in making the rules to protect your zone, or it's not harm.

 

Brain has already followed suite with DSB because he threatened to ban me for posting in hyperspace, when asked what I should not post, he explained posts which he did not like. This is why DSB is a perfect example that correlates with brain. Brain would deem what I say harmful to the zone, and ban me if I was in hyperspace. All because he does what he wants, as opposed to me actually being harmful. The fact that I would just play a zone for example would neutralize the fact that I troll in it. Playing a zone is productive and supportive. Especially in a dying game.

 

And yes I was dropped on my head as a child. Or more accurately I fell down 30 steps of stairs when I was 1.

Edited September 20, 2011 by Avast

[Corey]

Fail troll is fail. Also you're yet to tell me who you are.

[007paul]

I don't even know who Corey is but from reading his posts on here I can already tell he is a douche bag power hungry prick.

 

Remove him asap.

[spidernl]

He didn't threaten to ban you. He just said that if you tried your little "How can I be as much of a pain in the ass of people who are trying to make a fun game for other people to play" game in Hyperspace, he wouldn't hesitate to ban you. Can't blame him, really. Those 30 steps of stairs you fell down do show.

 

So trolls are people who enjoy themselves from time to time? Give me some of whatever you're smoking.

 

Edit: Judging from your posts you're just hopelessly delusional. Troll god? All you do most of the day is make a fool of yourself by posting things about paying programmers by the pages

Edited September 20, 2011 by spidernl

[Avast]

You know what brain said in our conversation over aim? Damn so you act clairvoyant and then call me delusional for giving myself a title of troll god?

 

At least I don't pretend to know things I don't actually know. Retard. If you can't catch on, it's just a title, it doesn't mean I have your special powers of knowing what someone said when I wasn't even there. Talk about delusional.

 

Also I don't try to be a pain in the ass. Whatever I post, I am always serious, and it would have been my opinion either way, trolling or not trolling. Not my problem if people get offended easily. So lets reword this, "He would have said, provided you are clairvoyant, that if I tried to "BE MYSELF" he wouldn't hesitate to ban me. Good I am glad we cleared this up.

 

I think maybe you should have fallen down some stairs. Maybe you would reach half the intelligence that I have.

Edited September 20, 2011 by Avast

[Corey]

Now there is someone I know, 007Paul, back from your ban already? Wasn't long enough was it?

[Cheese]

hochcomeback'd

ez

[spidernl]

So lets reword this, "He would have said, provided you are clairvoyant, that if I tried to "BE MYSELF" he wouldn't hesitate to ban me.

He didn't threaten to ban you. He just said that if you tried your little "How can I be as much of a pain in the ass of people who are trying to make a fun game for other people to play" game in Hyperspace, he wouldn't hesitate to ban you.

Still applies. You being yourself equals

your little "How can I be as much of a pain in the ass of people who are trying to make a fun game for other people to play" game

 

See. No clairvoyance required.

Edited September 21, 2011 by spidernl

[Avast]

Of course, but you shouldn't ban people because you dislike them. Or you are probably worse than a troll. You would be more along the lines of that wiki defined troll.

 

A troll like me dislikes no one. And would never to do anything out of dislike for someone.

 

You actually think I actively go out to annoy and troll people. If you get annoyed it's because you yourselves failed somewhere and I pointed it out. You only have yourself to ban, so ban yourself first.

Edited September 21, 2011 by Avast

[spidernl]

I see my claim of 'delusional' is also correct. You're right that you don't go out of your way to annoy people, you being yourself (ignorant while thinking you know better) is annoying enough.

[Avast]

If everything you do is just to troll and has no other purpose. Then you are going out of your way to more hinder, maybe oppose, or disrupt. A more evolved troll, will have no real motive, and their actions would disrupt regardless. But the none motive would be that they are doing what they want without regard for others for their own entertainment.

 

This does not necessarily mean you want to harm, or cause harm, or EVEN that you can cause harm to a zone, or even the people in it. Many people make fun of me, and believe me I am not harmed and I still like those people. I have no ill feelings towards anyone at all.

 

So if you go out of your way and your only purpose is to troll. Then yes you could locate someone like that and say there only motive is to disrupt what we are doing. Lets disrupt what they are doing so we can have a nice atmosphere here. That Is okay to do. (but not with a ban - however details are not important)

 

But now we have someone like me. My overriding purpose when I post is never to troll. I don't flame people in threads. I don't even start threads usually (which means I don't even actively seek attention etc). I actually try to make points, discuss things, have a topic of conversation. Sometimes leave an opinion - like "this is cool". In game or anywhere else it's the same thing. I was banned from DSB for telling them how to fix their zone. Pointing out flaws in management, policy, and lack of actions taken. People generally don't like to be told that they are failing. They have pride. Really the greatest troll is wounded pride. I am just myself. Now unless you want to argue my nature is evil, or that I cause harm wherever I go. Then you can't really justify banning someone just because you dislike them. If you do, it is basically called doing what you want without regard for others. And being a troll. Which is why I called brain a troll.

 

I am pretty sure I am not evil, and I contribute to the game. Even killing people and saying EZ is a contribution to this game. Without rivals, or someone to oppose or dislike, this game would have gotten socially boring a long time ago. Part of the reason it's a fun game is because it has a chat client, and people can be jerks. Every negative action has a positive with it. It's called balance. And bad things can't exist without a simultaneous good thing that arises from it. For example if we killed off all the worlds viruses, the human race would die. But wait viruses are bad and make us sick, and even kill us. So remember trolling is actually a good thing, maybe in excess when it becomes someones only purpose you can suppress their trolling. But it's pretty damn clear I have more purpose than just to troll.

Edited September 21, 2011 by Avast

[spidernl]

Your ignorance is what makes you annoying. You see Cheese lie on the Hyperspace forums and immediately assume we have leadership issues "like DSB".

[007paul]

Now there is someone I know, 007Paul, back from your ban already? Wasn't long enough was it?

buddy your a plug show. i dont even know who u are and i guess u already know everything about me. some1 tell me who this corey kid is asap is he aliased?

[Avast]

Your ignorance is what makes you annoying. You see Cheese lie on the Hyperspace forums and immediately assume we have leadership issues "like DSB".

 

I never sided with cheese. I spoke from experience, "when I said corey will probably delete posts outside hyperspace forums ". This experience was when Brain banned me after I reposted a deleted post in hyperspace. Since I copy and save every post I make. And keep it in backup for about 2 weeks. He banned me from not only hyperspace forums, but SSFORUMS as a whole. Even though he is not supposed to do that. His ban pretty much should have been limited to Hyperspace forums. As I am currently aware. His reason for this is that he was too lazy. That was his response when I asked. It was easier to ban me from all of ssforums.

 

I was just suggesting that corey could likely resort to the same thing. Moderating outside Hyperspace forums, and the reason this is likely is because the zone owner does this, and people who are under him would learn by example. It's also obvious corey is a troll. And likes to troll people, even if he is trolling trolls. That actually makes him more dangerous. Someone like me has no bias, no motives for revenge, no retribution thoughts, or sense of vigilantism. When I troll, I troll everyone, I pick no targets, unlike Mom for example who whispered me and begged me to troll z-er in Extreme Games. Someone who does however is apt to abuse powers, because they will carry with them a sense that they are better than certain people.

 

Does corey abuse powers? has he banned people for no good reason? I don't know. Cheese never posted screenshots, backed up with logs. etc. Is it likely cheeses post was deleted? Yes. I am inclined to believe cheese on this and corey isn't denying it either. Has corey randomly shutdown hyperspace. Probably. Was it intentional, by accident, or from lack of knowledge. I don't know, don't care.

 

You have no leadership issues. I never stated you did. Leadership is determined by three things in my eyes. The player community is content in hyperspace? Yes. Is there development? Extreme development. Is the zone popular? By hyperspace standards Yes, the population has increased from before. This means your leadership is good.

 

I am talking not about failure in leadership which Hyperspace doesn't share with DSB. I am talking more of the personal mentality that a zone owner or people in positions of power have. Your view on players, in dealing with problems etc. That is something else entirely, and from my discussion with brain he has much in common with Hoch, and the current DSB and even subspace council. The only DIFFERENCE is that brain is more honest. He openly admits he will ban for what he doesn't like etc. DSB on the other hand and even subspace council put up rules, and then break their own rules, make exceptions, and lie to people. Now does brain share this in action with DSB? Not yet. I've yet to see an action aside from the deletion of my post on hyperspace forums, that goes with what brain said. DSB on the other hand is full of abuse.

 

The only few zone owners who have a fresh perspective on how to deal with people, and don't treat everyone like a criminal, is tm_master, and the_snake.

Edited September 22, 2011 by Avast

[Dr Brain]

Drugs aren't the answer, Avast.

[Cheese]

dr, did you give corey forum powers?

he said you did, but i don't believe him, as he and spidernl are dishonest.

 

if so, shame on you

[Corey]

Lol I'm not going to keep on going into this argument. It's like arguing with a bunch of kids who think they are going to get in trouble and lie or think they know everything.

 

And Paul, you've got to be the biggest idiot on the forums, not even Cheese and Avast combined equal up to you.

[Avast]

Who is lying and how?

[Avast]

Drugs aren't the answer, Avast.

 

haha I am drugs, how did you know? Taking antibiotics for my flu =/

[spidernl]

Is it likely cheeses post was deleted? Yes.

 

It was a post on a main Hyperspace forum topic which did nothing but try to start a flame war. There was absolutely no content of value in it.

If Corey hadn't deleted it, I would have.

Cheese was probably just trying to force us to move a good thread to the trash talk part of forums because he can't manage to post something useful.

 

Edit: the "lying" part was about Cheese. The guy always lies about every single situation where powers are used against him.

Just look at this thread. He claims > 1 posts were deleted. In fact he makes it look like there were a lot being deleted.

In reality it was only one and it was perfectly legitimate to remove it.

 

He has also been claiming for this entire reset in Hyperspace that he's been degranted almost a million, while in reality he hardly 'managed' to be degranted $1k until later on in the reset when it went up to $50k.

 

Case closed.

Edited September 22, 2011 by spidernl

[Dr Brain]

All of the HS mods have moderation powers in the hyperspace forum, and access to the staff forum (which is practically never used). As far as I'm aware, none of them have any powers outside of the HS forum.

 

Oh, and Avast: I can tell.

[Cheese]

It was a post on a main Hyperspace forum topic which did nothing but try to start a flame war.

The guy always lies

 

He claims > 1 posts were deleted. In fact he makes it look like there were a lot being deleted.

In reality it was only one and it was perfectly legitimate to remove it.

 

lol, this guy just lied to try to call someone names