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[toxic_intruder]

I'm trying to make an LVZ for a possible flashbang field, and it would be greatly appreciated if anyone could find the old flashbang LVZ if they have it. I'm trying to make something more interesting that 2 frames alternating between black and white (bright/transparent).

 

JoWie sent me a bunch of old lvz's which might have the file in them, but if anyone knows for sure where it is and they know they have it, please upload here.

[★ Dav]

it is unlikley that I have it BUT i will look through my backup drive this evening and see if it is there.

[spidernl]

Have you tried asking Dr Brain? That'd be a more logical first step than "panic! ask players because it's gone!".

[Dr Brain]

I don't seem to have it. But it was a super simple graphic. It was 100x100 or 200x200 (I forget), and had 4 frames. Each frame was a tiling of four pixels as follows

 

Frame 1:

R R

R R

 

Frame 2:

R R

R B

 

Frame 3:

R B

B R

 

Frame 4:

R B

B B

 

R = Red

B = Black (Transparent)

 

It should be a .gif or a .png (not .jpg).

[JoWie]

BMP would probably be the smallest in this case tho

 

The old files: http://welcome-to-the-machine.com/ss/hs2005.zip

I lost the even older stuff

Edited July 19, 2011 by JoWie

[Dr Brain]

BMP isn't going to be as small as a GIF or palletized PNG in this case, since it can't do RLE effectively.

[🜲 Samapico]

lvz's are zipped, so it doesn't matter much... anything other than BMP will simply take a bit longer to load. Well... BMP's will take a bit longer to read from hard drive I guess, but much less CPU required to display the image

 

 

Conclusion: whatever.

[Dr Brain]

PNGs and GIFs inside a LVZ have a higher overall compression ratio than a BMP inside a LVZ. This is because zlib doesn't have any image specific focus, so it's not as efficient.

 

In any other scenario I'd say it doesn't matter, but the SS download protocol is so terrible that every kb saved is a big deal. I've spent a lot of time tuning the HS images for the optimum balance between visual quality and download speed.

[JoWie]

I had made a similar "bang" animation a while back. I actually tested the different formats after lvz compression. The lvz with the BMP was the smallest. Although it was not by a whole lot. I used a different repeating pattern however.

[toxic_intruder]

I didn't mean to create a "panic!"sort of feel to this thread, sorry if I did. I found some lvz that looks right in jowie's file, but they're not animated, one of the bmp's is a white square, the next is 4 red squares getting progressively darker. I thought that the flash bang was something more complicated, which was what I was trying to create, but for now I'll try to get a basic animated black/white flashing lvz working.

[Dr Brain]

I think there was a cartoony "POW!" in the center of the white one. But no, nothing more complicated than that.

[toxic_intruder]

Alright. I didn't find the one with the POW graphic, just a white square.

 

I was thinking of trying to create something similar to the fireworks at 0:25 in this vid:

where instead of just one big boring square, it's a bunch of small repel/circle things blinking out once in random spots over something like a 400x400 area Edited July 20, 2011 by toxic_intruder