if I had a million dollars

[»Xog]

its ok guys just ignore my question.

 

[Avast]

This thread is about spending a million dollars on this game. If you feel it's stupid to talk about such a hypothetical scenario, please stop posting.

 

You clearly have no concept of how programming works. Your conception of a math graduate is also laughable.

 

I've done my very best to elucidate you, but you continue to with the programmers posting in this thread about their very own field, while you yourself don't even have tangential experience (one need look no further than paying by "pages" of code).

 

You have problems. You need to be trolled further to be purified.

 

This thread is not about spending a million dollars on this game. It's about what you would do with a million dollars. No where do I see the word subspace in the title. Remember now assumption is the mother of all fuck ups. I see you didn't answer my questions. You make retarded statements, I counter with a question. Smart people ask questions.

 

There is nothing wrong with paying by pages. It's like any other medium, paying by line, paying by hour, paying by whole project. Explain why this is wrong? Can't?

 

If I ever get paid by pages of code, I'm gonna set my resolution very low, and use a large font.

Also gonna make sure to use end of lines whenever possible.

 

Oh, and split the source in many files. One function, one file.

 

Gonna make a shitload of pages and money!

 

Obviously size 12 font, standard format. And proper compiling. Not 1000 files. I don't state the obvious because I assume you guys are smart enough to know it. IF YOU are all idiots, please inform me in a PM, and I will begin to add the utmost detail to my posts directed towards you. Thank you.

[Dr Brain]

This thread is not about spending a million dollars on this game. It's about what you would do with a million dollars. No where do I see the word subspace in the title. Remember now assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

 

So, i'm not saying I do, but if I were to have it, what could it be best utilized for in continuum? Hiring a team of coding pros to develop various tools for us? A whole new server? A new billing system?

 

The fact that you're only reading the titles of the topics explains a lot. Since this post doesn't have a title for you to read, I'm not going to say more.

[Cheese]

dr, why are you wasting your time arguing with a dumbass?

you have more important things to be doing

[»Lynx]

Here's what's wrong with paying by pages.

 

 

 

// #PayingByPages.java
/**
*
* @author Christopher <chris@chris.com>
* 
* This class highlights how paying by lines or 'pages' of code is
* utterly stupid. 
* 
* This class took approximately three minutes to create; the best
* thing about IDEs now-a-days is that there is the ability to have a 
* lot of auto-generated code. 
* 
* This makes a lot of peoples lives a lot easier; by writing 14
* lines of code; the final line count is over 380 (and not fully commented;
* if you look at any other (good) code you'll see lengthly comments).
* 
* If I were paid by the line count, and not by what functionality I bring
* to the client; I'd do this all the time. I'd also consider getting into
* the Model-View-Controller side of business, especially since the
* 'Coding by Convention' paradigm pretty much encapsulates the idea that
* the programmer shouldn't have to code; but generate and re-use.
* 
* 
*/
public class PayingByPages {
   
   String oneCan;
   String easily;
   String makeThings;
   String lookVery;
   String longAnd;
   String complicated;
   String ifOne;
   String wishes;
   String onlyAnIdiot;
   String wouldPayAProgrammer;
   String forThe;
   int number;
   String ofLinesThatThey;
   String haveCreated;

   /**
    * 
    * Constructor
    * 
    * @param oneCan
    * @param easily
    * @param makeThings
    * @param lookVery
    * @param longAnd
    * @param complicated
    * @param ifOne
    * @param wishes
    * @param onlyAnIdiot
    * @param wouldPayAProgrammer
    * @param forThe
    * @param number
    * @param ofLinesThatThey
    * @param haveCreated 
    */
   public PayingByPages(
           String oneCan, 
           String easily, 
           String makeThings, 
           String lookVery, 
           String longAnd, 
           String complicated, 
           String ifOne, 
           String wishes, 
           String onlyAnIdiot, 
           String wouldPayAProgrammer, 
           String forThe, 
           int number, 
           String ofLinesThatThey, 
           String haveCreated) {
       this.oneCan = oneCan;
       this.easily = easily;
       this.makeThings = makeThings;
       this.lookVery = lookVery;
       this.longAnd = longAnd;
       this.complicated = complicated;
       this.ifOne = ifOne;
       this.wishes = wishes;
       this.onlyAnIdiot = onlyAnIdiot;
       this.wouldPayAProgrammer = wouldPayAProgrammer;
       this.forThe = forThe;
       this.number = number;
       this.ofLinesThatThey = ofLinesThatThey;
       this.haveCreated = haveCreated;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getComplicated() {
       return complicated;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param complicated 
    */
   public void setComplicated(String complicated) {
       this.complicated = complicated;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getEasily() {
       return easily;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param easily 
    */
   public void setEasily(String easily) {
       this.easily = easily;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getForThe() {
       return forThe;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param forThe 
    */
   public void setForThe(String forThe) {
       this.forThe = forThe;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getHaveCreated() {
       return haveCreated;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param haveCreated 
    */
   public void setHaveCreated(String haveCreated) {
       this.haveCreated = haveCreated;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getIfOne() {
       return ifOne;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param ifOne 
    */
   public void setIfOne(String ifOne) {
       this.ifOne = ifOne;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getLongAnd() {
       return longAnd;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param longAnd 
    */
   public void setLongAnd(String longAnd) {
       this.longAnd = longAnd;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getLookVery() {
       return lookVery;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param lookVery 
    */
   public void setLookVery(String lookVery) {
       this.lookVery = lookVery;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getMakeThings() {
       return makeThings;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param makeThings 
    */
   public void setMakeThings(String makeThings) {
       this.makeThings = makeThings;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public int getNumber() {
       return number;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param number 
    */
   public void setNumber(int number) {
       this.number = number;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getOfLinesThatThey() {
       return ofLinesThatThey;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param ofLinesThatThey 
    */
   public void setOfLinesThatThey(String ofLinesThatThey) {
       this.ofLinesThatThey = ofLinesThatThey;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getOneCan() {
       return oneCan;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param oneCan 
    */
   public void setOneCan(String oneCan) {
       this.oneCan = oneCan;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getOnlyAnIdiot() {
       return onlyAnIdiot;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param onlyAnIdiot 
    */
   public void setOnlyAnIdiot(String onlyAnIdiot) {
       this.onlyAnIdiot = onlyAnIdiot;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getWishes() {
       return wishes;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param wishes 
    */
   public void setWishes(String wishes) {
       this.wishes = wishes;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   public String getWouldPayAProgrammer() {
       return wouldPayAProgrammer;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param wouldPayAProgrammer 
    */
   public void setWouldPayAProgrammer(String wouldPayAProgrammer) {
       this.wouldPayAProgrammer = wouldPayAProgrammer;
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   @Override
   public String toString() {
       return "PayingByPages{" 
               + "oneCan=" 
               + oneCan + ", easily=" 
               + easily + ", makeThings=" 
               + makeThings + ", lookVery=" 
               + lookVery + ", longAnd=" 
               + longAnd + ", complicated=" 
               + complicated + ", ifOne=" 
               + ifOne + ", wishes=" 
               + wishes + ", onlyAnIdiot=" 
               + onlyAnIdiot + ", wouldPayAProgrammer=" 
               + wouldPayAProgrammer + ", forThe=" 
               + forThe + ", number=" 
               + number + ", ofLinesThatThey=" 
               + ofLinesThatThey + ", haveCreated=" 
               + haveCreated + '}';
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return
    * @throws CloneNotSupportedException 
    */
   @Override
   protected Object clone() throws CloneNotSupportedException {
       return super.clone();
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @param o
    * @return 
    */
   @Override
   public boolean equals(Object o) {
       return super.equals(o);
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @throws Throwable 
    */
   @Override
   protected void finalize() throws Throwable {
       super.finalize();
   }

   /**
    * 
    * @return 
    */
   @Override
   public int hashCode() {
       return super.hashCode();
   } 
}

 

 

Edited July 15, 2011 by Lynx

[PoLiX]

[Avast]

Here's what's wrong with paying by pages.

 

 

 

// #PayingByPages.java
/**
 *
 * @author Christopher 
 * 
 * This class highlights how paying by lines or 'pages' of code is
 * utterly stupid. 
 * 
 * This class took approximately three minutes to create; the best
 * thing about IDEs now-a-days is that there is the ability to have a 
 * lot of auto-generated code. 
 * 
 * This makes a lot of peoples lives a lot easier; by writing 14
 * lines of code; the final line count is over 380 (and not fully commented;
 * if you look at any other (good) code you'll see lengthly comments).
 * 
 * If I were paid by the line count, and not by what functionality I bring
 * to the client; I'd do this all the time. I'd also consider getting into
 * the Model-View-Controller side of business, especially since the
 * 'Coding by Convention' paradigm pretty much encapsulates the idea that
 * the programmer shouldn't have to code; but generate and re-use.
 * 
 * 
 */
 
You're taking it too literally, and assuming too much. What makes you think I would pay anyone by the page if it was obvious their code had little functionality and they were just trying to get more pages for more money? I never said anything about contracts either. You all assume too much. Once again I thought you were smart and I didn't need to state the obvious, but you are dumb asses.

[Avast]

This thread is not about spending a million dollars on this game. It's about what you would do with a million dollars. No where do I see the word subspace in the title. Remember now assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

 

So, i'm not saying I do, but if I were to have it, what could it be best utilized for in continuum? Hiring a team of coding pros to develop various tools for us? A whole new server? A new billing system?

 

The fact that you're only reading the titles of the topics explains a lot. Since this post doesn't have a title for you to read, I'm not going to say more.

 

The topic starters post has little to do with the topic of the thread. He said what he would do with a million dollars, enhance subspace, and then asked for ideas about it. It still doesn't mean thats the topic of the thread. THATS WHAT HE WOULD DO WITH A MILLION DOLLARS. What I would do with a million dollars is different. The title doesn't specify only subspace, the title asks for a broad idea of what we would do with a million dollars, the first posts, asks what we would do for subspace.

 

What this actually shows, is how you assume things, and make vague statements, and when there is lack of detail or explanation you decide to fill in the blanks. Rather than use only the information given, you add your own information. It actually proves you are an idiot who doesn't ask questions, because your online playing you are smart, rather than playing 2D spaceships. GTFO

 

Owns a zone and thinks he knows everything.

Edited July 16, 2011 by Avast

[»Blocks]

Executive summary: Avast is an ignoramus, Dr Brain is an elitist, Samapico is an opportunist, Xog doesn't have a million dollars, and if he did, he'd be better off spending it on himself than our sorry lot.

[Drake7707]

Inexperienced programmers cost a lot of time because they screw up (well, more than experienced programmers), don't take things in account that should have been and everyone knows it's the price tag * 100 once the software is in production to fix things that shouldn't have to be fixed. (I remember screwing stuff up when I started that made me lose a lot of time afterwards)

 

There's only 1 colleague that has a bachelor degree informatics at work, and while they have a few more years of working 'experience', they don't even come close to my level of technical insight. Don't get me wrong, they get the job done and it will work 90% of the time. It's the 10% that I am worried about (having to fix a database by reading the last 30 days of backup because data was getting partially overwritten with defaults each day is not fun, I can assure you that).

The degree isn't all that important, it's how much time they've spend programming. Those who have developed a lot as a hobby have a significant advantage to those who haven't (especially if they don't have a degree).

 

Can't say anything about how much a programmer costs, I know how much a developer costs here but in the US too different with taxes and such.

 

The only reason (big) companies hire them straight from university is that they're cheap and they have an internal course available to make sure they at least know a bit what they're doing. They won't go straight to development without supervised testing and such.

 

I couldn't think of anyone who would hire a freelancer without experience in the field, say to them "make this, here's the money you get and finish it by that date".

 

 

Edit: damn u page 2 that I didn't see making my reply near obsolete

[»Xog]

This post right here was actually going to be about bribing polix to ban avast from the forums if i had a million dollars, but I just realized he's not worth so much that I'd need a million dollars to spare the cash. I'm barely scraping by in life right now, and I can say his value should be appropriate for my spare cash that I have. So PoLiX, I'll give you a great deal! $0.05 to ban Avast from forums for plain trolling and stupidity. It's obvious he understands where all of us are coming from and he gets the points, he's just trolling. Ban for trolling and I shall paypal you my $0.05! Edited July 16, 2011 by Xog

[»Lynx]

You're taking it too literally, and assuming too much. What makes you think I would pay anyone by the page if it was obvious their code had little functionality and they were just trying to get more pages for more money?

 

Little functionality? My code has brilliant functionality; it highlights that you're a moron. I don't require anything else

Edited July 16, 2011 by Lynx

[Avast]

You're taking it too literally, and assuming too much. What makes you think I would pay anyone by the page if it was obvious their code had little functionality and they were just trying to get more pages for more money?

 

Little functionality? My code has brilliant functionality; it highlights that you're a moron. I don't require anything else

 

Do you see anywhere in my post, that YOUR code has no functionality? The only moron is you for once again making up stories about what I write.

 

Remember now when you try your reading comprehension again, that YOUR is the keyword.

 

Paying per a page doesn't mean I pay for their comments, it means I pay for actual functional code. And being a programmer, I would know they made it functional with 3 pages of code when I could have done it myself in 1 page. So i wouldn't pay them. Once again I thought you guys were

 

1. smart (so obvious explanation not required)

2. that programmers on SS would not be retarded and try get lots of money or rip people off

 

All you are explaining is how much of a low life you are, with no morals or integrity

Example: "Lynx> If I were paid by the line count, and not by what functionality I bring to the client; I'd do this all the time."

Edited July 16, 2011 by Avast

[Resol]

Is this guy for real? I'm not sure if he's just trying to make himself look stupid, or he truly is special ed.

[Cheese]

My code has brilliant functionality; it highlights that you're a moron.

 

lolpwnt

best quote of 2011 imo

[Dr Brain]

I've changed my mind about Hoch. That guy was a saint for putting up with Avast as long as he did.

[Avast]

I've changed my mind about Hoch. That guy was a saint for putting up with Avast as long as he did.

 

You would have to be active first to put up with me.

[PoLiX]

I now don't blame DSB for banning you.

 

And as much as I thought the net-ban was just a waste, I now see why they requested it.

[Avast]

I now don't blame DSB for banning you.

 

And as much as I thought the net-ban was just a waste, I now see why they requested it.

 

I don't blame them either, sometimes words are hard to handle for very emotional people.

 

But DSB has died in my absence. I was the life blood. They are all making posts on DSB forums, saying there is nothing they can do, and they wish they had people to help. Entropy isn't even active enough, and the zone has less than 20 people a day, with 2vs2, probably no practices. League won't happen I am sure.

 

They banned one of the most active players, who still held peoples interests negative or positive interest doesn't matter at this point. And I helped make all their BABL maps that they are still going to use for BABL league. I even re-tiled some bases while banned and sent them to sever. Even mapped a nice pub map, which is probably way better than anything they have etc. etc. Yet after banning me they are still crying saying there is no one who makes what they want to see done. Sure when you ban that person and don't listen to his sagely advise to save your zone. Of course there is no one left.

 

It's pretty pathetic and disgraceful what they did to DSB. Ent further blames the community for this and says until they change their attitude DSB won't be active. Jee I guess if they dislike DSB so much maybe the image of the zone would improve if you didn't ask for netban favors, and ban your only players. LOL Retards create paradoxes that their small minds cant comprehend enough to break out of. DSB staff is laughable.

Edited July 17, 2011 by Avast

[»Xog]

Avast you're right; you were the essence of DSB. They LOVED having you around. You being around was a constant and helpful reminder that there are people in this world who need help. It kept some sort of sanity in their minds as their zone was falling apart.

[Avast]

Avast you're right; you were the essence of DSB. They LOVED having you around. You being around was a constant and helpful reminder that there are people in this world who need help. It kept some sort of sanity in their minds as their zone was falling apart.

 

Corrupt people won't like having me around, because I expose their failures, fallacies, and wickedness. Really I troll the evil out of people, until a pure product is left. For example Hoch, he finally decided to quit banning people, and take care of his sick wife. I turned him into a Saint, in that sense Brain is very right. Hoch was a saint, because of my existence. Otherwise he would still be a power hungry moron on a 2d game.

Edited July 17, 2011 by Avast

[PoLiX]

Yes. Keep thinking it was just you, and nothing else