PoLiX Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 This is a topic noone has brought up for years now. So here I am bringing it up again. Talking to some new players the other day (1-2yrs), and they honestly had NO clue what SubSpace was. They thought it was just the server, and the game was called Continuum not SubSpace. One of them knew it had been a client, but didn't know why we still called the game SubSpace. He said most people he plays with call it Continuum. So it got me thinking... are we confusing our new players by telling them to download a game called Continuum, and then continuing to call everything SubSpace. We've now used Continuum longer than we ever did SubSpace. Is it time we honestly embrace what we really are, and try to make something of it? We always think "we'll find people who remember SubSpace", but maybe we need to search for people who remember "Continuum" instead. We do get a lot of hits from people searching for Continuum, and more clicks on "continuum" than "subspace". We gotta do something to begin moving forward, and stop living in our current state of decay. Maybe it is worth thinking about dropping the possible confusion factor, and calling this Continuum not SubSpace. Mm?
No_Remorse Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 I would 100% rather call it Subspace, and will always call it Subspace to people who know what I'm talking about. But it causes too much confusion with the newbies. So I say letting going of the past and fully adopting the name Continuum would be the logical thing to do.
Yupa Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 title.dat At the moment Discretion has the greatest potential to endure as a client (even moreso with ASSS as a server) — think you might ever want to start calling the game Discretion? I don't. The game is SubSpace, it has multiple clients, just like many other games, just like many other server-client software packages.
PoLiX Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Posted March 17, 2011 Mind naming a few other games? Just curious.
L.C. Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) SubSpace is a game, and the game. It also happens to be the name of a game client called 'SubSpace'. Game != Game client Likewise, Continuum is a game client of a game called 'SubSpace'. Examples of clients: Discretion, Snrrrubspace, SubSpace, ContinuumThe game these clients are for: SubSpace Edited March 17, 2011 by L.C.
zerosouls Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 Since I only play Warzone, I call it playing Warzone.... but I call the GAME Subspace. Continuum is just a client, a third party deal to play Subspace.
Dr Brain Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Mind naming a few other games? Just curious.Don't know about games, but AIM is a good example. It's always AIM, whether you use pidgin, miranda, trillian, or the original AIM.
PoLiX Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Posted March 18, 2011 True, but people have CHOICES to use those. You can still use AIM, and new users to AIM are pointed to AIM. New users either see SubSpace everywhere and told to download Continuum, or they download Continuum and suddenly find themselves seeing everything called SubSpace. They can't download SubSpace to play SubSpace. I'm for either or. But I had a feeling as is the problem many times in this game, noone would want to let go of the old ways. Kinda like the old council and SSC zone access, eh?
L.C. Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 True, but people have CHOICES to use those. You can still use AIM, and new users to AIM are pointed to AIM. New users either see SubSpace everywhere and told to download Continuum, or they download Continuum and suddenly find themselves seeing everything called SubSpace. They can't download SubSpace to play SubSpace. I'm for either or. But I had a feeling as is the problem many times in this game, noone would want to let go of the old ways. Kinda like the old council and SSC zone access, eh? lol, let's rename Continuum to SubSpace via reverse engineering.
PoLiX Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Posted March 18, 2011 Well, that could be done by the title.dat as I mentioned before I posted this thread when discussing in game. But the flaw there is updating all the downloads, and then you have to fix all the continuum references already out there, etc. It is a swampy mess we've got ourselves in. Definately something I need to add into the guide/help pages I am working on.
2pacZ Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 subspace ftmfw It started out at subspace, and it will die out like subspace lol
Cheese Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Mind naming a few other games? Just curious.Don't know about games, but AIM is a good example. It's always AIM, whether you use pidgin, miranda, trillian, or the original AIM. i call it by its true name IM
freaknigh Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Continuum is a terrible name thats why we don't use it. It's like calling your game "version 2". I think if Continuum had glaring differences from subspace then it'd be called continuum, but if it does a perfect job of looking like subspace, then its called subspace. The game is subspace, the client is continuum. No more then you can play it on windows or linux.
»Maverick Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I don't like Continuum either but just for the newbies's sake, I would choose to call it Continuum as much as possible. As soon as the newbies learn more about the game, they'll realize the game was once called SubSpace and the server software is still called like that (well more or less - isn't the official name 'Subgame'?). Whatever we choose, it would be best if we just choose one and stick with that. Keeping either just creates the confusion we're in now.
»Purge Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 What about Subspace Continuum? Sounds cooler.
Avast Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) title.dat At the moment Discretion has the greatest potential to endure as a client (even moreso with ASSS as a server) — think you might ever want to start calling the game Discretion? I don't. The game is SubSpace, it has multiple clients, just like many other games, just like many other server-client software packages. Continuum is a terrible name thats why we don't use it. It's like calling your game "version 2". I think if Continuum had glaring differences from subspace then it'd be called continuum, but if it does a perfect job of looking like subspace, then its called subspace. The game is subspace, the client is continuum. No more then you can play it on windows or linux. I totally and completely agree with you guys. And yeah I vote Subspace or Subspace Continuum. LOL Edited March 18, 2011 by Avast
»SD>Big Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I don't like Continuum either but just for the newbies's sake, I would choose to call it Continuum as much as possible. As soon as the newbies learn more about the game, they'll realize the game was once called SubSpace and the server software is still called like that (well more or less - isn't the official name 'Subgame'?). Whatever we choose, it would be best if we just choose one and stick with that. Keeping either just creates the confusion we're in now. agreed with Mav, as much as I prefer Subspace. What about Subspace Continuum? Sounds cooler. that's actually not a bad idea at all!
PlayWolf Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Subspace seems legit because Continuum come from the Subspace client itself, but it seems that most only know Subspace as Continuum just because people they just find the client is called "Continuum". Seems like a debate topic.
»Purge Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 SubSpace Continuum is bloated and overdone. How is it overdone? I know it sounds cliche, but this is an old game we're talking about. And I don't think 2 words counts as being bloated.
Hakaku Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I voted for SubSpace, but using the dual form SubSpace/Continuum is just as good. In the end, though, it really doesn't matter all that much as all forms are rampant enough that arguing over this is useless. Sure, newbies might associate the game as Continuum at first, especially considering our primary download portal is called GetContinuum. But once in the game, everyone calls it SubSpace and use the abbreviation 'ss', so it doesn't take very long before they learn to make the association. They may not actually understand the distinction between the client and the game concept itself, but it really doesn't matter as long as they get to shoot and blow things up. It should also be noted that 'subspace' readily derives new terms for related applications: Subgame, Sublog, SubChat, Subspace2, SSME, etc. Changing the name won't change the state of the game, nor will it help move anything forward.
Avast Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Subspace: a smaller space within a main area that has been divided or subdividedContinuum: a continuous extent, series, or whole. Subspace continued basically.. lol Lol and subspace isn't even space.. it's a smaller space within space =/ Lets rename game to Universe.. Makes sense.. most people are now in university who play and the majority use it as a chat client to make verses.. LOL Edited March 18, 2011 by Avast
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