007paulwall Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 A topic to discuss the freedom of Mizzike. Should he be let free on such an early status? Should he have been detained for a longer time period? Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak freely without censorship or limitation, or both. The synonymous term freedom of expression is sometimes used to indicate not only freedom of verbal speech but any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on "hate speech". The right to freedom of speech is recognized as a human right under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). The ICCPR recognizes the right to freedom of speech as "the right to hold opinions without interference. Everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression." Furthermore freedom of speech is recognized in European, inter-American and African regional human rights law. Therefore, come to your conclusion about this freedom of the menace we call Mizzike -007paul Quote
L.C. Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 No, because this is the internet. Grow up. Quote
»Lynx Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Freedom of speech isn't something that zone operators need to listen to. Welcome to internet. Quote
No_Remorse Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u214/rottenronald/fvg13l-1.gif Quote
Avast Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) Well ?ignore always works. Private Messages are not moderated. Public Chat, is public so it can not be considered directed towards anyone unless names are used. SO you can't use harassment card if they talk in public. Harassment is a no a go against Staff. If someone doesn't want to use ?ignore it means they enjoy whatever you are saying, even if they ?report you, they love the conflict, and just want the opportunity to use staff as a tool to get someone banned, and feel their own ego trip. Staff who can't deal with players, and has no desire to, basically shouldn't. You are owners, back staff, stay hidden if you don't like dealing with your own player demographic. Staff who feels they need to teach people lessons. AKA Hoch, you are retarded. Your not our mothers, or teachers, and basing punishments on "history" is equally retarded. Do what you have to do, based on the situation. Hmm what ELSE! well if Mizziki is such a problem, then ?find falconeer, and I will gladly take a staff position, drag any problems into a private arena with me all day, and talk to these problems. I am pretty sure I am more dedicated and more relentless with my freedom of speech than they are =) THAT IS ALL! p.s racism, is bad. Edited March 7, 2011 by Avast Quote
Kilo Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 oh I'm sorry is this the DSB forum now how hard is it to understand that you have no right to anything on a privately owned and operated server. whether the owners and operators are reasonable, fair, just, and smart people or not. so there's no point in talking about it as some fundamental right and there really is no point in whining about it on another forum. Quote
Avast Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Oh we understand But counter understand that what makes a zone is the people who play there.. so owners can run their zone anyway they want obviously, but if the people get fed up, don't expect them all to stay. I believe Metal Gear Experienced this first hand or something? Quote
Dr Brain Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 But counter understand that what makes a zone is the people who play there.. You've got this entirely backwards. What makes the people play there is the zone. Changing things in the zone will change the group of players, but the reverse is not true and has never happened (as far as I know). Quote
Dav Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Subspace is not a democracy, it is a pseudo-communist regime. It us up to zone owners what can and cannot be said/done in their zone and up to you to obey the rules or be banned. Simples! Quote
»SD>Big Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 i agree that zones can do whatever they want. Silencing players, however, should be used more often. Silence before banning if chat is being abused. Quote
Mizzike Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 I enjoy harassing you people while I play. But what gets me is, I can curse all I want to...but I say N***er ONE time and I get a warning... Umm...ass backwards? I think so. Quote
»SD>Big Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 I enjoy harassing you people while I play. But what gets me is, I can curse all I want to...but I say N***er ONE time and I get a warning... Umm...ass backwards? I think so. well, it's probably because you have a history of doing so, so mods have a low tolerance for you Quote
Corey Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 I enjoy harassing you people while I play. But what gets me is, I can curse all I want to...but I say N***er ONE time and I get a warning... Umm...ass backwards? I think so.Come to HS. Im sure you've figured out by now that i don't put up with anything, and neither do the rest of the mods. Quote
No_Remorse Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Come to HS. Im sure you've figured out by now that i don't put up with anything, and neither do the rest of the mods. That's not something to brag about. Why not add words deemed to be offensive or profane into obscene.txt and have it automatically turned on upon entering the zone? If anyone wants to read the swearing they will turn it off. Problem solved, no trivial bans handed out, more population in the zone. But hey, that's just my inconsequential opinion. Quote
Avast Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) Exactly NR. I was thinking that when I made my post too, but I left it for someone else to bring up =/ once again, Ignore works also. Bans should be for cheaters. If you ban for any other reason, at least have the guts, courage, integrity, balls? To admit you just like to push people around as much as the guy swearing does. You do it in a different way, doesn't make you any better retard. Tired of people trying to cover up their actions, by claiming good intentions, or saying its good for the zone. The only thing good for a zone is an open mind and banning CHEATERS. Any other offenses can be dealt with through gag, vote gag system, obscene txt, ignore, and so on. If you want to ban people for stupid reasons, you don't need to go around pretending to be some savior of the zone. Say it makes you feel good and admit there was a better way but you were too lazy, and at least you'll be half a man for admitting it. - my opinion - basically 99% of bans could be avoided if people weren't lazy Edited March 8, 2011 by Avast Quote
Dr Brain Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 basically 99% of bans could be avoided if people weren't lazy 99% of car accidents could be avoided if Humans were aquatic animals. Quote
Samapico Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 100% of the people who died in the past 10 years drank water. If you want to live, don't drink water. Quote
Cheese Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 100% of the people who died in the past 10 years drank water. If you want to live, don't drink water. i prefer grape drank basically 99% of bans could be avoided if people weren't lazy 99% of car accidents could be avoided if Humans were aquatic animals. but then you have whale crashes D: Quote
PlayWolf Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 Lololol, well, oooh the poor student fishies D: Quote
No_Remorse Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 100% of the people who died in the past 10 years drank water. If you want to live, don't drink water. I think you're onto something here. Quote
Mizzike Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) FREE MIZZIKE!! =DI'm free. At least for now. Maybe I'll watch my language a little more...Buuuuuuuuuuut I doubt it.Mission: A.)Expose nerds on a power trip. B.)Make the general population angry.Some are starting to catch on already. The only zone I might decide to watch my language a LITTLE bit...Metal Gear CTF Btw... ATTACK MONKEYS IS A HOE. Edited March 9, 2011 by Mizzike Quote
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