Cheese's Item Log

[PlayWolf]

I like the multitasking gun,

[Cheese]

so what is this 'initialbounty' business anyways?

whats it supposed to do?

pretty sure everyone starts at 20

[Cheese]

+------------+
| Ion Cannon |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp   | Ships    | Max | Ammo             | Item Types                     |
| $40000    | $25000     | 5000  | 12345678 | 1   | None             | Gun                            |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| A weapon of extreme power; takes a very long time to recover.                                       |
+------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Property Name    | Property Value |
+------------------+----------------+
| gunlevel         | +4             |
| multifire        | +1             |
| bulletdelay      | =100           |
| bulletenergy     | =30            |
+------------------+----------------+

^nonsig lv4 alternative to giga; ultra long delay

 

+--------------+
| Pile o' Crap |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp   | Ships    | Max | Ammo             | Item Types                     |
| $35000    | $22500     | 5000  | 12345678 | 1   | None             | Armor                          |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| The exterior of the ship is littered with junk, which doesn't protect against damage much...        |
+------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Property Name    | Property Value |
+------------------+----------------+
| rotation         | -1             |
| bulletdamage     | +5             |
| bulletdamageup   | +1             |
| bombdamage       | +10            |
| jittertime       | +10            |
| maxspeed         | -1             |
| maxthrust        | -1             |
| afterburner      | +1             |
| ebombtime        | +50            |
| ebombdamage      | +10            |
| bulletenergy     | -1             |
| multienergy      | -1             |
| bombenergy       | -5             |
| stealthenergy    | -75            |
| cloakenergy      | -150           |
| antiwarpenergy   | -75            |
| seemines         | =1!            |
| seebomblevel     | =1!            |
| mapzoom          | +5             |
| gravspeed        | -5000          |
| minedelay        | -10            |
| mineenergy       | -10            |
| shraplevel       | +1             |
+------------------+----------------+

^armor that does other things instead of actually being an armor

 

+----------------+
| Rocket Booster |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp   | Ships    | Max | Ammo             | Item Types                     |
| $12000    | $11000     | 1500  | 12345678 | 2   | None             | Addon                          |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Increases the effects of rockets.                                                                   |
+------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Property Name    | Property Value |
+------------------+----------------+
| rocketspeed      | +250           |
| rocketthrust     | +5             |
+------------------+----------------+

^makes you go faster, takes up item slot

 

+-------------------+
| Antideath Booster |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp   | Ships    | Max | Ammo             | Item Types                     |
| $40000    | $25000     | 5000  | 12345678 | 2   | None             | Addon                          |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Increases the effects of Antideath.                                                                 |
+------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Property Name    | Property Value |
+------------------+----------------+
| adcooldown       | -1000          |
| addelay          | -50            |
+------------------+----------------+

^ad booster, takes up item slot

 

+-----------+
| Suicide   |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp   | Ships    | Max | Ammo             | Item Types                     |
| $30000    | $20000     | 4000  | 12345678 | 1   | None             | Bomb                           |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Salvo on steroids. You will die.                                                                    |
+------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Property Name    | Property Value |
+------------------+----------------+
| bomblevel        | +1             |
| bombdelay        | =10            |
| bombenergy       | =275           |
| maxmines         | =5             |
| minedelay        | =150           |
| mineenergy       | =250           |
+------------------+----------------+

^salvo that fires extremely quickly, depleting your energy

 

+-----------------+
| Proximity Guard |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp   | Ships    | Max | Ammo             | Item Types                     |
| $50000    | $22000     | 6000  | 12345678 | 1   | None             | Gun, Signature                 |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| An automated turret attaches itself to your ship and fires endless waves of bullets when an enemy is near. |
+------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Property Name    | Property Value |
+------------------+----------------+
| pointdefense     | +1             |
| pdweapon         | =1!            |
| pdlevel          | +1             |
| pddelay          | +10            |
| pdrange          | +30000         |
| bulletenergy     | =150           |
| bulletdelay      | =500           |
+------------------+----------------+

^close up shredder pd

 

+------------------+
| Automated Turret |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp   | Ships    | Max | Ammo             | Item Types                     |
| $12000    | $11000     | 1500  | 12345678 | 1   | None             | Gun                            |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| An automated turret attaches itself to your ship and fires endless waves of bouncing bullets when an enemy approaches. |
+------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Property Name    | Property Value |
+------------------+----------------+
| pointdefense     | +1             |
| pdweapon         | =1!            |
| pdlevel          | +2             |
| pddelay          | +100           |
| pdalt            | +1             |
| pdrange          | +100000        |
| bulletenergy     | =150           |
| bulletdelay      | =500           |
+------------------+----------------+

^nonsig pd

[Dr Brain]

so what is this 'initialbounty' business anyways?

whats it supposed to do?

pretty sure everyone starts at 20

It's not that it does nothing because everyone starts at 20. Everyone starts at 20 because it's there.

[Cheese]

ok

[omni]

+-----------+
| Suicide   |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp   | Ships    | Max | Ammo             | Item Types                     |
| $30000    | $20000     | 4000  | 12345678 | 1   | None             | Bomb                           |
+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+
| Salvo on steroids. You will die.                                                                    |
+------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Property Name    | Property Value |
+------------------+----------------+
| bomblevel        | +1             |
| bombdelay        | =10            |
| bombenergy       | =275           |
| maxmines         | =5             |
| minedelay        | =150           |
| mineenergy       | =250           |
+------------------+----------------+

 

Isn't this even more OP than Unix's cyclone? lolz

[PlayWolf]

What about a gun that goes like this..

 

+------------+

| Repeater |

+------------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+----------

--------+--------------------------------+

| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp | Ships | Max | Ammo | Item Types |

| $30000 | $20000 | 3450 | 1 34 | 1 | None | gun |

+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+----------

--------+--------------------------------+

| Deadly and very fragile energy gun. |

+------------------+----------------+------------------------

-----------------------------------------+

| Property Name | Property Value |

+------------------+----------------+

| gunlevel | +3 |

| gundelay | =1 |

| gunenergy | =150 |

+------------------+----------------+

 

lol, I fail at the boxes.. bah.

[spidernl]

Snip.

 

Your suggestions never cease to be amusing. Thanks.

 

What about a gun that goes like this..

 

+------------+

| Repeater |

+------------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+----------

--------+--------------------------------+

| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp | Ships | Max | Ammo | Item Types |

| $30000 | $20000 | 3450 | 1 34 | 1 | None | gun |

+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+----------

--------+--------------------------------+

| Deadly and very fragile energy gun. |

+------------------+----------------+------------------------

-----------------------------------------+

| Property Name | Property Value |

+------------------+----------------+

| gunlevel | +3 |

| gundelay | =1 |

| gunenergy | =150 |

+------------------+----------------+

 

lol, I fail at the boxes.. bah.

 

I think I remember Arnk saying veeeery low delays are bad for.. I think bandwidth reasons/problems. Not sure. Either way, very low delay isn't a good idea.

Also, this item would be terribly useless. Sure, it'd do 12800 DPS.. but it'd cost 15000 energy doing it.

 

Try Shredder.

 

Edit: I also congratulate Omni on possibly having something extraordinarily rare (in the HS community), a (slight) sense of balance.

Edited March 15, 2011 by spidernl

[PlayWolf]

Where did 15000 energy come from? No ship in HS has that amount....

 

And shredder is just plain out meh.

Edited March 15, 2011 by Wolfie

[spidernl]

Where did 15000 energy come from? No ship in HS has that amount....

 

And shredder is just plain out meh.

 

I never claimed any ship has that amount of energy, I just gave you some dps / energy costs.

Shredder is beast, l2play.

[Cheese]

Also, this item would be terribly useless. Sure, it'd do 12800 DPS.. but it'd cost 15000 energy doing it.

 

lol is this this the person that keeps babbling about balance

 

 

plus if you forget you can keep referring to the first post

these items are IDEAS which have had -0- effort put into balancing

[Cheese]

.

 

 

PS:

 

| Salvo on steroids. You will die.                                                                    |

in case you missed it

 

 

 

Isn't this even more OP than Unix's cyclone? lolz

 

first of all, its not unix's

second, no

 

average human reaction time is .3s

in that time it would fire 3 bombs @ 750nrg, almost an entire stock javelin

plus the dps on this is worse than shredder, and closebombing = instant death

[spidernl]

.

 

 

PS:

 

| Salvo on steroids. You will die.                                                                    |

in case you missed it

 

 

 

Isn't this even more OP than Unix's cyclone? lolz

 

first of all, its not unix's

second, no

 

average human reaction time is .3s

in that time it would fire 3 bombs @ 750nrg, almost an entire stock javelin

plus the dps on this is worse than shredder, and closebombing = instant death

 

Lol. I don't know why I bother to reply to your attempts to look even more stupid than you truly are.

Are you seriously claiming you can't tap a button for less than 1/3rd a second? Sux2be u.

 

And I didn't know Shredder could do more than 7700 dps. Learn something new every day.

[PlayWolf]

Where did 15000 energy come from? No ship in HS has that amount....

 

And shredder is just plain out meh.

 

I never claimed any ship has that amount of energy, I just gave you some dps / energy costs.

Shredder is beast, l2play.

 

If you claim a ship never had 15000 energy then why did you bring that up. I put 3 ships in the ship box and not really hard to miss.. even you know the ship's energy themselves sooo....

 

and no matter what, shredder is just a piece of junk..

[omni]

.

 

 

PS:

 

| Salvo on steroids. You will die.                                                                    |

in case you missed it

 

 

 

Isn't this even more OP than Unix's cyclone? lolz

 

first of all, its not unix's

second, no

 

average human reaction time is .3s

in that time it would fire 3 bombs @ 750nrg, almost an entire stock javelin

plus the dps on this is worse than shredder, and closebombing = instant death

 

I wasn't referring to the bombs. I was referring to item spam.

[Dr Brain]

Yes, imagine thors.

 

EDIT: ugh, new page. Oh well...

[Cheese]

so then salvo items dont have to be added

 

piece of cake

[spidernl]

so then salvo items dont have to be added

 

piece of cake

 

You finally understand, no more salvo items are going to be added.

 

For all the 'omg y bring up dps if no ship can use it!!' comments: those figures were

just meant to illustrate the massive differences between existing items and..

certain suggestions. Didn't bother with the item delay problem.

[PlayWolf]

Bullets don't effect items

[spidernl]

Bullets don't effect items

 

Correct. And your point is? I gave DPS for several items, and I wasn't talking about yours when I mentioned item delay.

A 1 delay gun is just way, way too low delay, whatever you do. Other than 5000 energy use so you can't fire it, maybe.

[Corey]

Then what would be the point of it? Wolf's got some pretty neat ideas. His gun seems more interesting then most of the new items. The gun is really unique.

[spidernl]

Then what would be the point of it? Wolf's got some pretty neat ideas. His gun seems more interesting then most of the new items. The gun is really unique.

 

And too low delay.

[Corey]

Then what would be the point of it? Wolf's got some pretty neat ideas. His gun seems more interesting then most of the new items. The gun is really unique.

 

And too low delay.

Which can be countered by high energy cost, you're pretty familiar with that

[spidernl]

Which can be countered by high energy cost, you're pretty familiar with that

 

You forgot what I said about very low delay. The "it's not gonna happen" part.

Shredder = > 10 bullets per second, be happy with that.

[PlayWolf]

Don't forget the mass driver that has 11 delay. and fires near 11 bullets per second.