Dr Brain Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 These ideas have been rattling around my brain for a while, and I figured that I would let you guys know about them. Item revampI plan on having items dissapear when you use them. So instead of having 3 repels every time you spawn, you would only have three repels until you use one. You would then have 2 repels every time you spawn (and enter the zone). This was impossible with the bot system, and so I never gave it much thought. Upgrade revampRather than having l3bomb, and l2gun, and all those nasty energy/speed upgrades, I had an idea... Have different named items that have different properties. For example, the Plasma Cannon is a L1 gun with bouncing bullets. This would be the default weapon (the replacement for the l1gun). Another weapon could be the Gatling Gun, a non-bouncing L2 gun with a high rate of fire that uses ammo. Shotguns could be blue non-bouncing multifire, etc, etc, etc. Similar things can be done with bombs. I would also add a weight component to every item. Each ship has a max load. Anything over that, and the ship loses thrust, rotation, and speed. Then, I would remove all the upgrades, and instead have items that embody upgrades. For example, a Enhanced Thruster Array would give thrust and rotation boosts. A Talirac Drive would boost thrust, speed, and recharge. Im sure you all see the potential fun that can be had with an item based setup. WarpingAlready been hashed out in another thread. New ItemsSensors: lets you see enemy's energy, instead of just team mates.Flashbangs: Seeing as it isnt actually for sale at the moment, I think it qualifies as a new item. I would change it so you have to have one present on your ship to launch it. I would also have it only effect your current sector.Nukes: Boom. Three ultra-powerful thors for an absolutly insane price.Probably others I have forgotten and havent remembered in the 10 mins it took to type this update. Team namesI want private teams to have names (public teams too). Rather than freq 4529, you would be the "Orion Crusaders", or whatever you choose to call your team. The =#### command would be disabled, and you would need to use a new "?team My Team:team_p!@#$%^&*" command. Teams would have a password that the team owner can change with a command. I would also modify the victory messages to have something like "Team victory (Orion Crusaders). Reward: $3456" CTFCatch all the flags, drop them all to win. Original? I think not. Capture all the flags, drop them in the FR, and defend them for 3 miniutes? Sound slightly better? I thought so. An added bonus is that the server can announce the countdown. More things can be done with flags, but this was one of the better (and not too complicated) ideas I came up with. If you guys have ideas for flags, be sure to share them here. PowerballI'm sure something fun can be done with the powerball, I just haven't given it much thought. If anyone has fun ideas (not things that have been done a bajillion times) for it, I am all ears (eyes, whatever). Note: If you could spend a few extra seconds punctuating your replies, I am more likely to read every line. Quote
Wargh!!! Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 These ideas have been rattling around my brain for a while, and I figured that I would let you guys know about them.sounds good I plan on having items dissapear when you use them. So instead of having 3 repels every time you spawn, you would only have three repels until you use one. You would then have 2 repels every time you spawn (and enter the zone). This was impossible with the bot system, and so I never gave it much thought. Hmmm... not my exact choice, but it would make continual buying without lost intrest, so its a good idea. Rather than having l3bomb, and l2gun, and all those nasty energy/speed upgrades, I had an idea... Have different named items that have different properties. For example, the Plasma Cannon is a L1 gun with bouncing bullets. This would be the default weapon (the replacement for the l1gun). Another weapon could be the Gatling Gun, a non-bouncing L2 gun with a high rate of fire that uses ammo. Shotguns could be blue non-bouncing multifire, etc, etc, etc. Similar things can be done with bombs.This is a really good idea, im actually quite keen to see all the combinations you could come up with I would also add a weight component to every item. Each ship has a max load. Anything over that, and the ship loses thrust, rotation, and speed. Now this is what i like, a good weight for every ship... will the cap ship have like, a huge capacity, and will all the items have a different weight? Then, I would remove all the upgrades, and instead have items that embody upgrades. For example, a Enhanced Thruster Array would give thrust and rotation boosts. A Talirac Drive would boost thrust, speed, and recharge. Im sure you all see the potential fun that can be had with an item based setup.I like your thinking, but it slightly conflicts with the weight factors...if ou have no upgrades will it affect you as much as normal? and also, couldyou buy extra weight capacity, or weight reduction kits for your ship? Already been hashed out in another thread. I like the ideas you have there Sensors: lets you see enemy's energy, instead of just team mates.Im liking this already... although you do get to see when an nme has about 50-100 health, as blood-like circle rushes out. A good soloution to the 'eater' complaints Flashbangs: Seeing as it isnt actually for sale at the moment, I think it qualifies as a new item. I would change it so you have to have one present on your ship to launch it. I would also have it only effect your current sector. I LOVE this idea for lame base rushing how long would the FBs last?how many could you carry (excluding weight amounts) Nukes: Boom. Three ultra-powerful thors for an absolutly insane price.Boom... any other comments? I think your nukes should kill those in the immediate radius, be EXTREMELY expensive and massIVELY heavy. also, they damage everyone in the sector, and it cant be used in center.just my thoughts Probably others I have forgotten and havent remembered in the 10 mins it took to type this update. Can't wait to find out what they are I want private teams to have names (public teams too). Rather than freq 4529, you would be the "Orion Crusaders", or whatever you choose to call your team. The =#### command would be disabled, and you would need to use a new "?team My Team:team_p!@#$%^&*" command. Teams would have a password that the team owner can change with a command. I would also modify the victory messages to have something like "Team victory (Orion Crusaders). Reward: $3456"I Like the idea, but wouldyou be able to moderate names?what would be the character limit?Just a few thoughts. Catch all the flags, drop them all to win. Original? I think not. Capture all the flags, drop them in the FR, and defend them for 3 miniutes? Sound slightly better? I thought so. An added bonus is that the server can announce the countdown. More things can be done with flags, but this was one of the better (and not too complicated) ideas I came up with. If you guys have ideas for flags, be sure to share them here. I LOVE the fact that you cant flag-lame in safe nemore because of this. Huge jackpots ruined, by safing, and newbies shooting you, and you gaining tons in the solo arena.I have an idea for flags. Maybe get a STAY flag in each base, and, whenever we feel it nessecery, we can replace all flags with 1 stationary flag in each base. VERY stressful for veteran teams to protect and make the limit about a min or 2. 'm sure something fun can be done with the powerball, I just haven't given it much thought. If anyone has fun ideas (not things that have been done a bajillion times) for it, I am all ears (eyes, whatever).lol, i like the way the powerball system works now, but maybe let the moderators ajust the cash reward as they see fit, which means they can host events with it, and let it be also that you can set limits to how igh and low you can have it, so no abuse comes out of it, and like ?ballcount (arg: + - #) it only applies to the current arena, and when the last moderator leaves, reset it to normal. Note: If you could spend a few extra seconds punctuating your replies, I am more likely to read every line. Hehe, will do boss Quote
Bomook Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 Upgrade revampRather than having l3bomb' date=' and l2gun, and all those nasty energy/speed upgrades, I had an idea... Have different named items that have different properties. For example, the Plasma Cannon is a L1 gun with bouncing bullets. This would be the default weapon (the replacement for the l1gun). Another weapon could be the Gatling Gun, a non-bouncing L2 gun with a high rate of fire that uses ammo. Shotguns could be blue non-bouncing multifire, etc, etc, etc. Similar things can be done with bombs.[/quote']this sounds very good. There's a huge potential for fun as long as the item sets are balanced and useful. Hopefully there'll still be a lot of things to buy, so a ship can't just be "maxed" too easily. The team names are probably the best part! there's style to flagging nowTeam victory (Ferret Fan Club). Reward: $8643 Quote
Dav Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 i like the idea of the CTF game, adds much more skillto the game. also, could you add a powerup when u have the ball, it increces guns and bombs by 1lvl, that will give an incentive to get the ball. Quote
Bomook Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 making the powerball increase gun and bomb levels, if anything, will make a ship weaker, since such guns are less energy efficient. Regardless, making the powerball a "kill" tool is bad. It should be actually used for scoring. Quote
FunkmastaD Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 I do like all of the ideas that have been createdI do not like Wargh's second novel lolWho the -*BAD WORD*- quotes nothing....and quotes EVERYTHING in the same postIt's great that you have an opinion on everything but 15 quotes can be condensed a little bit lolIt's great to have a realistic Speed/Power ratioIt allows each individual ship to be unique to a pointAnd having different weapons with different attributes is also a good idea Will the ?team command be permanent if say I leave my team freq will remain pw locked? Quote
HypnoticKirby Posted January 17, 2004 Report Posted January 17, 2004 I really like the Upgrade and Team name ideas! As with the powerballs.. Powerball to open base doors perhaps? Hmm..maybe not.. Powerball for disable nme weapons? hmm... Powerball to increase speed? Just have to tweak the settings a bit( like 10 secs hold ) Heh,Thats all that came to me mind! Quote
»D1st0rt Posted January 17, 2004 Report Posted January 17, 2004 For the countdown thingy... could we get pic to make some kind of LVZ display that shows the countdown? I know Cyan has a merv plugin that can do that... Quote
Dr Brain Posted January 18, 2004 Author Report Posted January 18, 2004 For the countdown thingy... could we get pic to make some kind of LVZ display that shows the countdown? I know Cyan has a merv plugin that can do that...Quite possible, yes. I'm not sure how long it will take him to make, so I will just start with green messages announcing it. Quote
Power_P Posted January 18, 2004 Report Posted January 18, 2004 (edited) Nice to see youre still at it brain The Weapons idea is great, balancing them in that sort of way is very cool. Maybe add that a certain type of weaponry would go well with some ships and less with others. Or is the weapon a ship by itelf?? Well those are my 2 cents. Maybe instead of making new ideas we could start by putting up the zone? hehe And by the way, everywhere I go I get people asking me when HS is coming back, good too see that our population wont start at zero when zone comes back on again. Once again, congrats brain you are like...god ..of ..the um... SS zone building ...people. Really REALLY Good job on everything Edited January 19, 2004 by Dr Brain Quote
Wargh!!! Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 much better EDIT: For those who dont get it, PP said Sexy instead of cool. Quote
Dav Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 with the coundown we need a cool voice that says stuff likt "flag counter initiated""60 seconds remaining""30 seconds remaining""15 seconds remaining""10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1""Game over team dav wins" "Countdown aborted" um "dav1 ownz" haha also can we have an alarm thing when ship energy goes critical, that will be cool "warning energy critical!" Quote
»D1st0rt Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 just like SSCX Star Warzone? but voicing a team name would be really hard Quote
Dav Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 hard but COOL!could u mabue have the sysops add ur team and use a text rto speect converter to add the team name, when the team is registerd the tam sound is added Quote
Bomook Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 could u mabue have the sysops add ur team and use a text rto speect converter to add the team name' date=' when the team is registerd the tam sound is added[/quote']...wouldn't that require downloading the arena again? plus, it would be hard to use a text-to-speech converter on names written in 1337. e.g. 7h3 1337 f3rr37 0wn3r'z f4nc1ub. Also, I don't think a sysop will be present every time someone wants to make a new team name now that it's possible with ASSS to change things like rate of fire, and energy consumption without having those properties attached onto ships, does this mean that all weapon properties that were previously attached with ships (i.e. double barrels, bullet/bomb velocities, EMP, maximum mines, bomb bounce count) are now also changable on a player-to-player basis? Also, can the weapon-based properties such as damage, alivetime, explosion radius, and prox radius be changed as well? Some evil ideas are popping into my head, but I'm not sure if they're possible to do Quote
Dav Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 acculally you would just download the new sound each time its updated i think. pklus the sound files will be small as they are no lomger then 3 seconds or so. the team name can always be requested in the forums as well. anyways mook im surprised you havent requested a ship looks like a ferret yet Quote
Bomook Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 anyways mook im surprised you havent requested a ship looks like a ferret yetactually, I've already made the shipset. Now if I can just get an arena to put it in Quote
»D1st0rt Posted January 20, 2004 Report Posted January 20, 2004 I don't think the audio team names is a good idea, it would just be too much of a hassle. Bom: you mean like a ?prize EMP and can you say ?go ferret Quote
Bomook Posted January 20, 2004 Report Posted January 20, 2004 Bom: you mean like a ?prize EMPyeah' date=' prizing would be the only adjustment on a player-to-player basis I can think of For example, without ASSS, every weasel has the same ROF, EMP, same number of maximum mines, etc. I was just wondering if ASSS allows changing those specific fields per player. So Player A can have a weasel with a huge prox. radius while Player B has a weasel with bombs that zip across the screen in a second (crazy weapon ideas [img']http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/blum.gif[/img] ). I have some crazy ideas for new weapons, but I'm just wondering how customizable things will be to see if they're possible or not. Quote
HypnoticKirby Posted January 20, 2004 Report Posted January 20, 2004 When an arena is updated with a sound,all you need to do is download that sound. And bomook, add more ferrets to that ship set and pop it in some zone folder Quote
Dr Brain Posted January 20, 2004 Author Report Posted January 20, 2004 Team names in announcements wont happen Only some things are changable on a player-to-player basis. Rate of fire is.Max mines are.Fire costs are. EMP and bouncing bombs aren't.Weapon velocity isnt.Prox isn't. Quote
Dav Posted January 20, 2004 Report Posted January 20, 2004 anyways mook im surprised you havent requested a ship looks like a ferret yetactually' date=' I've already made the shipset. Now if I can just get an arena to put it in [/quote']you have way too much time on your hands Quote
Bomook Posted January 20, 2004 Report Posted January 20, 2004 ...only during vacations...winter vacation... Quote
Dav Posted January 20, 2004 Report Posted January 20, 2004 haha i know its offtiopic but is that your ferret in your avater mook? Quote
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