2 Year Pay Freeze

[PoLiX]

http://www.myfederalretirement.com/public/791.cfm

 

We bust our asses, have gotten numerous projects done ahead of time and under budget, and this is how they reward us.

 

So fucking lame :\

[espo]

Sucks dude. My last job did something similar to me. We would have company meetings and the man would stroke our cocks about what a great job we were doing and how our jobs were safe and then he laid us all off 3 months later.

[L.C.]

Obaminated.

 

What's a pay freeze? Do they just not pay you at all or not up your payrate/salary every x months? :?

[Sketter]

Obaminated.

 

What's a pay freeze? Do they just not pay you at all or not up your payrate/salary every x months? :?

 

 

They don't get raises.

[PoLiX]

I guess the upside to it (now over the initial blahness of it) is the republican committee didn't win. They wanted to cut our pay by 10%.

 

Compromise was freeze + for every 3 positions that open up (retires, promotions, etc.) they only hire 2 people to fill the 3. 10% pay cut would of had a lot of our guys packing up and going to Boeing or Lockheed.

[»Maverick]

I'm experiencing the same with the big IT company I work with, we've had no raises for two years now and most likely next year will be the third year.

It definately sucks and it's one of the reasons I'm quitting my job. February next year I will be working in a much smaller company doing more enjoyable work for more money

[»Blocks]

For reals man! There were already no raises at my workplace in 2009, and now 2011 and 2012 won't have any either.

[Bak]

I'm in grad school in a state school and the same thing applies to us (state employee pay freeze). Even though the money I'm getting paid is coming from grants won by my advisor and not the state. He's free to spend the money on anything related to the project, except paying us more.

[»Xog]

The company I work with has had a pay freeze on its employees as well. It's been this way for the past two years. My boss told me he's going to give me a very nice raise once this is lifted though. It's just literally not an option for us to receive raises. There is no way for him to do it.

[NBVegita]

I guess I'm the only lucky one.

 

I work for a large utility in the U.S. and we have not been hit by the economy at all. We are publicly downplaying our success, more so lack of decline, but I've received raises of 4.4% and 4.2% each of my last two years with a 12-15% bonus (each year) to boot.

 

But to be fair, we are immune to virtually all economic behaviors. So when the economy is bustling we still only get 2-4% raises and the same bonuses.

[Dav]

at least you still have a job though. A lot of people in the UK are happy to see a pay freeze because it means that their job still exists to be frozen in the first place.

 

unfortunately for me I am about to start job hunting, I am in a fixed term positions that comes to an end later in the year .

[Simulacrum]

Well, I have to say there are upsides to still being in college.

[»Blocks]

I work for a large utility in the U.S. and we have not been hit by the economy at all. We are publicly downplaying our success, more so lack of decline, but I've received raises of 4.4% and 4.2% each of my last two years with a 12-15% bonus (each year) to boot.

Who do you work for? I want to invest!

 

I must be in the wrong business ... I've been in the workplace one year, my raise was 2.0% and I was told that was good, there's no bonuses, and now there's a two-year pay freeze. http://forums.ssgn.net/public/style_emoticons/default/cray.gif

[L.C.]

I have heard that the whole "economy is downhill" thing is just used as an excuse by businesses and corporations as a marketing strategy to jack up prices.

[Dav]

Well, I have to say there are upsides to still being in college.

all depends whatthe job market is like when you finish really, but yes in general a better skill set and knowing where you are for a few years does help a bit.

[NBVegita]

I have heard that the whole "economy is downhill" thing is just used as an excuse by businesses and corporations as a marketing strategy to jack up prices.

 

That is pretty accurate. As a company we're performing at exactly the same margins as before the "economic downfall", but the company still used it as an excuse to not give as many/as high of raises. Although I received good raises, there were others in my department that did not.

 

One big reason for that is public perception, the last thing they want to hear is that the utility company is giving X bonuses and raises while asking for higher rates.

 

Blocks...I'll just say that I work for a large utility in both the U.S. and UK.

 

What helps me ensure my bonus/raise potential is that I run a critical piece of the U.S. business, I'm in charge of the meter reading interface for 10 million U.S. customers. Basically without what my department does, the meter readings can't be read or sent to billing. I'm sure more entry level positions don't entertain the same compensation.

 

So I guess it really is a matter perception, as a whole the company is being more frugal concerning compensation, yet I am yet to feel that.

[Aileron]

The thing that I would find so hilarious if I wasn't so terrified of you people, is that most of you are either utterly dumbstruck as to why the economy is sucking or are still blaming George W. Bush. The reason the economy is sucking is completely obvious to anyone whose head is detached from their fourth point of contact. While I won't explain it to you on account of the fact that I will be branded a far-right fundamentalist, hate-filled, racist, bigoted, corporate/government tool, xenophobic, nutcase for trying (as if I haven't already been done so on these forums), I'll give a hint regarding whose fault it isn't: Those of you who are 'dumbstruck' are a lot farther ahead of the curve than those who blame Bush, because its not his fault. And no, its not Dick Cheney's fault either. Nor is it the fault of "Wall Street", "CEO"s, Fannie Mae, Feddie Mac, the Banking industry, Oil Companies, American auto makers, or any corporation you can name. Its not President Obama's, nor any elected member of either the Democratic or the Republican parties' fault. The president and all elected officials are indeed doing the most they can to improve the situation as best as best they are capable of, and even though the current President publicly blames Bush for providing the sucky economy when that is incorrect, he has his reasons for doing so; reasons I can respect.

 

If you still don't know why the economy is f(*&$ed, I can't help you.

 

Back to the topic, I do believe that in a perfect world DoD employees should be immune to civilian f*&@tardedness. We aren't really a part of your economy as much as an enabling force that allows people to trade in the dollar rather than the allah akbar. Ultimately capitalism is capitalism and if you can find someone who has the stones to fight terrorists for less, you don't have to pay people as much and the rest of us don't have a right to complain. Also I admit my reality is that I don't need the money and end up giving it to charity anyway. Beer is cheap, Subspace is free, and women who want money aren't worth the trouble. I can afford a pay freeze.

 

Still, I want to point out one point of contention. A large motivating factor for my joining the Army was to escape civilian stupidity. I put up with lousy hours, a lifestyle I hate, not only working for but being owned by the government, and last but not least having the prospect of being blown up by an IED in the near future, all so I can escape civilian stupidity, and now civilian inability to understand basic economics is affecting my salary. Ultimately, its offensive. Do your job. Watch your lane. Your failure to do so is beginning to stray into mine. You wouldn't like it if nutcases shot AK-47s in the air around your town; we don't like it when your messed up economics affects our lifestyle.

 

All you guys have to do is unf*&^k yourselves. I already went to great lengths to avoid your c*&%p and can only go to the extreme of retreating to the mountains and living my life as some kind of hermit in order to isolate myself from your stupidity. I don't want to do that. Its far easier and more beneficial for all of us if you to finally figure out why you are f*&%tarded, fix the fact that you are f*&^tarded, and then fix the economy, which trust me, should be the *least* of your worries right now.

 

Ofcourse its not going to work like that, isn't it? That would require effort and a fair amount of self-actualization on your part, so its not going to happen. No, we're going to have to wait until you are happy with Afghanistan and say we are done. Then, when that finally happens, we get to come back, unf*&^k you, fix the economy for you, fix society for you, and then when all of us are in our 50s you civilians will wonder why us military types will all be cranky misanthropes.

 

How this country has managed to stay together for over two hundred years baffles me...George Washington has to have some kind of influence beyond the grave because the actions he made during his lifetime don't account for all of it.

[NBVegita]

You do realize that simply because you work for the government does not make you "immune" to anything.

 

There is no such thing as a Government economy and a civilian economy. The economy is a living breathing entity encompassing the entire country.

 

First the economic downturn was a combination of factors including individuals and corporations. Corporations offered situations that were impossible for the individual to sustain and the individual took it. Blame goes to both sides. Now, included with those individuals are your government employees. Every government employee who buys a house, a product, a car, invests money, ect ect, impacts the economy. That is just on the entry level, not including the military/governmental contracts and the like.

 

Also how does joining the DoD make you immune to "civilian stupidity"? To be blunt, you're really just a civilian wearing a different hat as far as the majority of issues are concerned. Your economics are my economics.

 

I respect all of our soldiers for what they do, but keep in mind that your salary is paid for by us "civilians". Without the money we make and the taxes we pay, you don't get paid what you're paid today. To think that when the rest of the world, not just country is struggling economically that you shouldn't be adversely affected is insane.

 

You're going to fix the economy? Oh please do tell? You really have turned into a grumpy narcissist. Short of martial law, there is nothing the "military" types can do to fix the economy. The root of our economic issue is that people are afraid to spend/invest capital and companies are echoing that in turn. Such an issue requires time to recover. There is nothing that Obama or any other government entity can do to "miraculously" turn the economy around. Once investors regain confidence, the economy will recover. I guarantee that the next economic upturn has absolutely nothing to do with either the government or military.

 

The reason why we have survived for this many years is because we are resilient. Yes we make mistakes. No we are not perfect, we are far from it. Yet we do adapt well. This is far from the worst this country has seen and it's far from the worst this country will see.

[»D1st0rt]

The government tends to lag behind the private sector. For the past couple years federal employees had raises higher than their counterparts in the private sector (some of which had wage freezes around 2008), its only just now catching up

[Simulacrum]

If you still don't know why the economy is f(*&$ed, I can't help you.

Not that this isn't, per se, true, but you seem to take it as an indication that you're particularly clever and/or that you're surrounded by dumbfucks. I would instead take it as an indication that the economy harbors many unknowns even for its most adept students; if you think that you know why the economy is fucked, you're probably as lost as the rest of us.