Not Enough Lancasters

[Patman1]

I have been in a lot of flag games where there is no lanc. Plenty of people have lancs but not everyone wants to anchor, and it is understandable. I have a few suggestions, first of all the % assist money should be increased for lancs. Also, there should be more and better lanc only items, for example an alien tech that when you pm someone, it gives them full energy, and it would have a 2 minute cooldown and also a 2 second delay.

What do you guys think?

Edited December 21, 2010 by Patman1

[op2rules]

Yea I agree some cool lanc items that actually help the team would be nice. Maybe also some items to help clear leakers or something like a low delay l2 bomb.

 

But yea the idea with the the recharge is smart, that way the anchor can help out its team's rushers and maybe the forward lanc if it's in a pinch.

[Weebles Wobble]

Patman you're the worst lanc I've ever had the misfortune of playing with. It is a pleasure when I see you on the opposite team because I know how easy the flag game will be.

 

Get good before you make demands.

[op2rules]

Patman you're the worst lanc I've ever had the misfortune of playing with. It is a pleasure when I see you on the opposite team because I know how easy the flag game will be.

 

Get good before you make demands.

 

U forgot to put bold.

[Patman1]

less hate more suggestions.

[Weebles Wobble]

less hate more suggestions.

 

I suggest you get good.

[omnomnom]

omnomnom will lanc

 

When omnomnom plays omnomnom lancs if there's no lanc

 

do people need better builds???

 

Heres mine!! (Though you may want ESPER system instead)

 

+------------------+
| Lancaster        |
+------------------+-------+--------+-----------------------------------------------------+
| Item Name        | Count | Ammo   | Item Types                                          |
+------------------+-------+--------+-----------------------------------------------------+
| Deflector Shield |     1 |        | Addon, -20 Repeller                                 |
| Antideath        |     1 |        | Antideath, Alien Tech                               |
| Combo Mount      |     1 |        | Mount, -7 Thor's Hammer, -15 Bullet Burst, Signature, -20 Repeller |
| Thor's Hammer    |     7 |        | Thor's Hammer                                       |
| Energy Scanner   |     1 |        | Emitter                                             |
| Resonance Sphere |     1 |        | Reactor                                             |
| Defense Mount    |     2 |        | Mount, -15 Bullet Burst, -20 Repeller, Repel Mount  |
| Tachyon Sensors  |     1 |        | Emitter                                             |
| Summoner         |     1 |        | FTL                                                 |
| Salvo            |     1 |        | Bomb                                                |
| Phaser           |     1 |        | Gun                                                 |
| Glow Cover       |     1 |        | Armor                                               |
| Carnot Engine    |     1 |        | Sublight Drives                                     |
| Parasite         |     1 |        | ???                                                 |
| Burst            |    10 |        | Bullet Burst                                        |
| Extra Mount      |     1 |        | 2 Capacity, -1 Mount                                |
| Power Strip      |     1 |        | Addon                                               |
| Repel            |     2 |        | Repeller                                            |
+------------------+-------+--------+-----------------------------------------------------+

 

Now you can all be like a omnomnom too!!!!!

 

 

...or just get ideas, hmm maybe thats better

[kid]

Reintroduce the lancs-for-squads deal.

[adi]

Reintroduce the lancs-for-squads deal.

There is not a paucity of lancs, just a lack of interest in anchoring. Also, l-f-s was abused; I don't think re-introducing it would be a good idea.

[Unix]

Allowing double armors or even sigs might be interesting to see if more people would want to lanc in bases. Some combos would be bad, like solid and omega, but it'd make lancing more interesting.

[omnomnom]

Honestly one of the deterrents to lanc is probably coffin maker. X-flank+coffin + reps... then theres AD+coffin+reps... then you have people with TW keys flank til you die.... and then after all this your team just says you suck and ragequits. *coughexaggeratedbadcough*

 

The main reason I lanc is because I remember how annoyed I was when I had no good lanc and no one lanced... maybe if everyone on the team, all of them, said "you suck"... or maybe a majority... but if most the team would just prefer a lanc (that doesnt do stuff like TRY to die ofc) thats what I lanc for, somewhat. But other than that I like the nice leech money, so a very strong reason for me to back-lanc is when I need money more than EXP (which is basically all the time after Summoner since antideaths and maybe TW keys don't come cheap)

 

Msybe radiating coils should have extreme, higher than now defense against bursts... you could give lancs higher gunspeed to defend their self better... flanks and coffins are what I think are part of the main deterrents, due to coffin's high power and lancs inability to defend their self that well against ships that do not simply rush the lanc, and back out of its range. A Positron Gunner can quickly destroy a lanc while being outside of its firing range.

 

If the Lancaster could defend thereself better however... one way or another... coffins and flanks could still be around yet be less of a problem in this sort of way. At least thats my opinion anyway, I'm not sure what other people not like back-lancing for.

[Patman1]

I few these ideas are good, higher gun speed for sure, maybe a l2 multifire gun taht bounces (non-sig), also the idea of dual armors sounds nice, dual sig would be too much (imagine zpm and solid :| ).

 

Here is another idea, how about be able to pick any armor you want, and be able to put glow cover on top of it (and shell if you have that too).

[Cheese]

anyone remember how many people lanced before they made coils sig?

 

the number of burstfags isnt what changed

[Corey]

Dont let pnut flag anymore he makes lancs rq

[Patman1]

In that case coils shouldn't be a sig either. I think rad coils should be non-sig and lanc only. It would be the best armor for anchors. Edited December 22, 2010 by Patman1

[Kilo]

The point of this zone isn't to have everyone have the same build just so you know

[Cheese]

how would you know the point of the zone when you havnt been inside it in over a year?

[Kilo]

i'll let you think about that

[espo]

There is a flaw in your logic Kilo. Your assuming Cheese has the ability to think.

[op2rules]

There is a flaw in your logic Kilo. You're assuming Cheese has the ability to think.

FTFY

[Zasso]

Up leech money.

Make lancs obtain 50% of all kills done by team in vicinity (sector).

 

Lanc-only non-sig radcoils is gay.

 

If you detest coffins so much, you have 2 solutions.

#1. Get good.

#2. Get rad coils.

 

Everyone who dies to coffins are those that either

#1. Don't have x.

#2. Are dumb and sit in 1 spot.

#3. Completely ignore enemy ad's.

#4. Possess an incompetent team that either cannot defend itself, or cannot keep aw on.

Rarely is it #4. Those who die to coffins can only blame themselves.

 

Now a few things that should be noted:

Everyone screaming to make lancs more powerful are just paving the way to even more OP'dLancRush.

Past couple of days, I've seen plenty of LancRushes with 3~4 ADSummonLanc that aren't half stupid to completely overtake base. Guns aren't able to deal that much damage out that consistently (roughly 9~12k dmg in 3 seconds).

 

Now a little personal statement:

I rarely get hit by coffins. Why/How? I keep moving. While my team is battling it out for the next chokepoint, I fly back and forth in the previous corridor. How does someone coffin+kill a lanc that moves constantly with nukeboost+sysop? They don't.

There are only 2 occassions where I get hit by coffins.

#1. I stop moving and be retarded like most lancs.

#2. I get repped into a corner. (Which would be my fault entirely.)

[Patman1]

op2rules on a grammar spree.

If rad coils were non-sig, only anchors would use it, and that makes sense because anchors are the targets for coffins, rushing lancs (which we have plenty of)would have different builds. The whole point of this thread is to try to get some more good anchors.

 

Now, I get hit by coffins a lot, I usually am able to pull myself out of them, but that isn't the problem, the problem is anchoring isn't attractive enough, almost everyone has a lanc, rare are the ones who use it for anchoring. Again the point of this thread is to make anchoring better. We are speculating out loud, not all ideas are great, but we have to keep coming up with stuff.

 

Increasing leech money is probably the easiest solution. However a few good lanc-only items and possibly dual-armor are good ideas (and if that were the case, make sig armors that would use both your armor slots, a.k.a. solid and coils).

Edited December 23, 2010 by Patman1

[op2rules]

I rarely get hit by coffins. Why/How? I keep moving. While my team is battling it out for the next chokepoint, I fly back and forth in the previous corridor. How does someone coffin+kill a lanc that moves constantly with nukeboost+sysop? They don't.

 

 

Hahaha only when me or Candy. aren't playing

Edited December 23, 2010 by op2rules

[espo]

ohnoes you got me.

[Patman1]

Ya op2 and candy you can coffin really good, some other people just fail at it...