Test Settings

[Unix]

Hey, just wanted to let people know about a new arena that's testing out some new settings for the zone. Feel free to go try them out and comment about them in here. The arena name is "#unix" so to get in there just type in "?go #unix" and you'll see the current baseduel map, but the settings will be pretty different, but have a real familiar feel to them.

 

We'll be testing out the new settings with baseduel matches whenever possible, so you'll definitely be able to test them out in a base setting and also in the open.

 

Post your comments, suggestions and questions!

Edited December 8, 2010 by Unix

[CRe]

These test settings are terrible. Keep the normal ones.

[Unix]

What about them are horrible? What can be improved upon them?

[Asteroid]

nothing coz they fuckn suck, touch my arena again ur dead,

[Avast]

I know this thread is a bit old and I didn't test anything but I have played Devastation with tm since 2007 and I have some preferences on what settings should be for baseduel.

 

The other day tm got rid of repel in baseduel because he said people were complaining because the game was so large and with everyone repelling it made it difficult to do anything. It was just for that game. However, no repel left weasel even more useless. I think a good alternative is to have one repel on two types of ships. The ships I suggest are Weasel and Javelin. It is also possible that when base games become very large we can switch to this 2 ship repel system and when Games are 5vs5 or less we can have one repel on every ship.

 

I have also been upset that the cloak and stealth have been removed from weasel. If people don't know this, I used to play weasel very often, and I would rush with the ship. Weasel already had a poor burst, and simple L3 guns, with a repel. It's only other real advantage was cloak and stealth. I was a cloak and stealth rusher. I would turn both on and rush, and usually get two kills before I died. We also used to have a few ships with Xradar back then, and any part of a good baseing defense was to have someone who had xradar on. It was part of the game, and allowed for more tactics. It was also impossible to cloak past anyone in 5vs5 so cloak and stealth served more for combat than anything else in large games. Tm removed cloak and stealth mainly for small games like 3vs3 and under. This is fine, but I think when games become 5vs5 or greater cloak and stealth should be added back along with xradar automatically by the bot/or module or however it works.

 

Right now as it stands, weasel has nothing but a lame burst, and l3 guns. It has been stripped of all specials and advantages.

Edited February 9, 2011 by Avast

[No_Remorse]

I say change back all the settings to what they were originally. Even with all the item spam large games sustained pretty well. Take your fingers off the Esc+C buttons and instead type ?go.

[Avast]

I say change back all the settings to what they were originally. Even with all the item spam large games sustained pretty well. Take your fingers off the Esc+C buttons and instead type ?go.

 

No remorse do you know exactly what was changed? Because I can't really tell.

 

Repels

Stealth/cloak

Levi/Lanc bombs?

 

Anyway I agree original settings were awesome, except for ship 5, which was pretty weak and unused. Every other ship was used a ton.

[No_Remorse]

What I know that has been changed that needs to be reversed:

 

1- Lancaster

2- Mine graphics changed to prize graphics

3- The use of baseduel

 

As for ?go baseduel, the settings might have been tampered with, but I wouldn't know. I don't really like that aspect of deva.

[Quigybobo]

I feel like the lanc change was good. I made it stronger and more playable. No one ever used it.

[Avast]

Well I definitely agree with the Mine graphics going back to Mine graphics. That prize stuff is annoying.

 

Lancaster - not sure if the changes are good.. but as long as nobody downgrades Levi, in order to improve Lanc (focus on lanc only in my opinion)

 

What exactly where the changes on the Lanc?

 

Also I agree we should have more games in Main, Perhaps someone can set up some scoring system where various records of players are listed?

[No_Remorse]

I believe the bombs were just made stronger. So basically the lanc is a fully capable ship in all facets of the game. When before it was pretty much purely a flagging ship used for angled bomblines.

 

And regarding the scoring system, like I already suggested, there is already a module that tracks scores and is can be added to devazone.net. Would be nice.

 

I feel like the lanc change was good. I made it stronger and more playable. No one ever used it.

 

I feel as if a poll is necessary.

[No_Remorse]

Ok, my issue with the lanc is that you have 2 different ship settings in public and in ?go baseduel. Is this intentional? IE: Lanc with l2 bombs in pub/l3 bombs in baseduel. And I'm not sure about the specifics of the changes to the lanc, but despite my last post, I think it's bullets were enhanced - perhaps even the bombs as well.

 

I suppose Quigy feels the lanc changes were unanimously preferred over the older settings... If so, it's not an outlandish suggestion to put it to a poll, because I'm not so sure about that assumption.

 

Stat system? "Direct ASSS Web Stats (DAWS) was created as a way to upload stats from your subspace server straight to a website without going through a middle layer such as scheduled scripts or mysql. The module and web interface are publicly available here asss-daws.zip. This can be easily added to the Deva Website.

 

Edit- Also, there shouldn't be a discrepancy between the settings in pub and the settings in baseduel outside of limited items/specials in bd for example. I just verified that Lanc is 2 somewhat different ships in both of these arenas... In baseduel it has l2 bullets and l3 bombs, but in pub it possesses l3 bullets(with a narrower multi-fire spread in comparison with baseduel to boot) and l2 bombs. Also, anyone can notice after switching between pub and baseduel that the ship thrust and/or speed in baseduel is slower/less than their respective settings in pub. Why the discrepancy? If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

Edited February 11, 2011 by No_Remorse

[Quigybobo]

Me and cre are addressing the problem the next few days. We are going to match up the settings in base duel and other arenas that use deva settings to the pub settings so its not so retarded. I agree that having seperate settings is dumb as fuck.

 

Btw I did a poll on the forum a long time ago about the lanc. It was 10:1 for the lanc change.

Edited February 12, 2011 by Quigybobo

[Avast]

Me and cre are addressing the problem the next few days. We are going to match up the settings in base duel and other arenas that use deva settings to the pub settings so its not so retarded. I agree that having seperate settings is dumb as fuck.

 

Btw I did a poll on the forum a long time ago about the lanc. It was 10:1 for the lanc change.

 

I'm with NR, I prefer the old lanc, and pretty much agree - don't fix it if its not broken.

I also prefer that weasel keeps it's cloak and stealth even in baseduel.

 

Maybe people wanted to change the lanc, but they wanted small changes to recharge, or bomb damage.

I think the current changes are too drastic and make the ship twice as powerful.

 

I say we put it to a vote. The poll could focus on options like this.

 

Should the lanc change

 

1. Yes but make it very small changes

2. No

3. Yes the current settings are perfect

[No_Remorse]

I agree with Avast. And I <3 you quig, but, where is this poll that you speak of? I've checked these forums pretty regularly for about 4 or 5 years now and didn't see it.

[Hakaku]

The poll is in my head. We shall now enforce the results and transform the terrier into a giant lobster.

[No_Remorse]

The poll is in my head. We shall now enforce the results and transform the terrier into a giant lobster.

 

That's not such a bad idea actually.

[Asteroid]

SHUT THE FUK UP I AM KING

[Asteroid]

SHUT THE FUK UP I AM KING

[Quigybobo]

Well its confirmed. I'll be turning the terr into a giant lobster. Lvz and stuff will be uploaded within the week.

[Avast]

Not to nag or really complain, normally it wouldn't bother me and this would have been a decent idea..

 

But that banner thing changed my banner that my name had. And it was a banner not in my banner folder, which means I pretty much lost it forever.

 

Maybe a warning next time that if you enter zone your banner will be replaced?

 

Otherwise I really wouldn't have cared and it's neat.

[Hakaku]

Cheer up, we did this last year. The Valentine's day banner doesn't change your personal banner stored on the biller. If you've visited any other zone you would have already noticed this. But anyhow, I forgot it was still up, so I've disabled it in Deva.

 

Also remember that if you've visited Trench Wars at some point in time, your banner has already been stored by their banner bots. http://www.trenchwars.org/SSBE/

[Avast]

Ahh okay cool, thanks for heads up

[PlayWolf]

Hahaha, should have a banner for every major holiday. x3