League rules.

[Vorb]

So like, my username is Dragon257. You might have seen me around the place.

I decided to make a dueling league!

The reason for this, is becouse I enjoy dueling,

and enjoy seeing other skilled people dueling.

 

Bellow are the set of rules I've thought up.

I decided to post them before I open signups,

to see what all you clever people think.

Sign ups are now open, look here.

Sign ups are now closed, first duels 16th and 17th of October.

 

I realize the prizes arn't that big, and having both

warbirds and javelins in the same league is a bit stupid,

but I mostly made these rules with fun and simplicity in mind.

 

 

Prizes!

Finalist prize is 100k HSD.

Second place prize is 50k HSD.

Third place prize is 25k HSD.

 

Entry fee is 10k HSD, you can pay on the day or any other time you want.

If you don't pay, then you don't get to play. All of the fees will be added to the

prizes in the ratios of: 4:7 for the first place prize,

2:7 for the second place prize, and 1:7 for the third place prize.

 

Ships:

Warbird or javelin, items/specials and stealth is not allowed.

Everything else is legal, so fetch your spam guns/prox bombs if thats your thing.

 

Format:

Assuming more then 5 players sign up, there will be a

group stage, if not it will go straight to finals.

 

Groups:

During the groups stage, players will be randomly divided

into groups of 3 and 4 players, with as many groups of 4 as is possible.

 

In groups of 4 players, each player will play every other player in the order of:

Player 1 vs Player 2, Player 3 vs Player 4,

Player 1 vs Player 3, Player 2 vs Player 4,

Player 1 vs Player 4.

Duels in groups of 4 players will be 3b1, in order to avoid being there forever.

 

In groups of 3 players, each player will play every other player in the order of:

Player 1 vs Player 2, Player 2 vs Player 3, Player 1 vs Player 3.

Duels in groups of 3 players will be 5b1, since there is more time.

 

The two players with the most wins will advance to the next round,

in the event of a tie then the player with the most deaths gets knocked out.

If all the players have the same number of deaths,

then I will knockout the player I think is weakest.

 

When in a group of 4 players, only 3 turn up,

then the rules are the same as for a group of 3 players.

If only 2 players turn up, then there will be a single playof in a 5b2 duel.

If only a single Player turns up, then they are awsome and automaticly advance.

 

When all the groups have played of, and there is still

more then 5 players then another round of groups will begin.

Otherwise the finals stage comes next.

 

Finals:

Hopefully by this point there are exactly 4 players,

but its possible there isn't, due to people not turning up and what not.

 

If there is 5 players, then 3 of the players will fight in a group,

and the other two players will face of in a 5b2 duel.

The winners then form another 3 player group, as below.

 

If there are 4 players, then there are two 5b2 duels,

the losers, then the winners fight another

two 5b2 duels for the titles of third, second and first.

 

If there are 3 players, then there is a group format like during the groups stage.

The player with the most wins is first, the player with the second most second,

and so on. If its a draw, then the another round of duels ocour. If its STILL

a draw, then the players with the most deaths from both rounds lose.

If its STILL STILL a draw, Then I decide who wins and looses. Tough luck.

 

If there are 2 players. Somehow. Then there is a 5b2 duel.

Note that in this case noone gets third place.

 

If there is only 1 player, then a whole load other players havn't shown up

and this one person gets first place.

 

Times:

All groups/duels will be on weekends, at 8 or 9 or 10 or 11 PM UTC.

If you don't atend, then you get removed from the league.

 

Each player MUST, or else be removed from the league, either ?message me or

pm me on these forums a list of the times they are available

before the the end of friday, at 12:00 PM in the PST zone (UTC-8 ).

At least half of the times must be open.

 

I will try to be as accommodating as possible, but it may just not be possible

to fit all of the players in. Its worth noting that if you're

available at all of the times, its not possible to be removed due to this.

 

A few small things:

Duels will be held in ?go boxduel.

 

r/g is to be used in all duels. If you don't know how this works,

one player types r to signify ready, then the other player types g to signify go.

 

You can change your ship setup however you want between duels, but,

I want there to be no ship changes during a duel. Unfortunatly,

?buy works in the boxduel arena safe, so I don't know if this can be done...

 

If there are any problems during the duels,

then I will do whatever I think is the right thing to do.

 

 

Note: If anyone can help me out with players being able to

change their ships in the boxduel arena, that would be realy realy helpfull.

Edited October 14, 2010 by Dragon257

[Corey]

If you get enough people to sign up. Say... 8, then I would be willing to make this into a duel ladder sort of thing. i could make the map for you.

[spidernl]

You can change your shipe setup however you want between duels, but,

I want there to be no ship changes during a duel. Unfortunatly,

?buy works in the boxduel arena safe, so I don't know if this can be done...

Note: If anyone can help me out with players being able to

change their ships in the boxduel arena, that would be realy realy helpfull.

 

If I'm allowed to, as a mere jrmod, I guess I can use some /?shipitems magic to ensure players stick to the same ship setup.

[Vorb]

If you get enough people to sign up. Say... 8, then I would be willing to make this into a duel ladder sort of thing. i could make the map for you.

I thought Hyperspace already had a duel ladder, or something similer. Probably you ment something different to that though.

 

As a map, the boxduel arena is pretty close to what I want, but the fact it has ?buy very much makes it not what I want.

If making a different map would get past that, that would be awsome.

 

If I'm allowed to, as a mere jrmod, I guess I can use some /?shipitems magic to ensure players stick to the same ship setup.

That would be super duper awsomeness, although I don't envy the prospect of having to turn up to every duel just to use ?shipitems on people.

[omni]

i'll play

 

is there an entry fee?

[Vorb]

Yay! omni is gonna play.

 

And oh yes, i forgot to add the entry fees to the rules. Silly me.

The entry fee is 10k, but you only have to pay on the day. I'll go edit the rules now...

[omni]

8-11 UTC is 4-7AM for me

 

I probably wont be able to make that sorry :/

[Vorb]

Noooooooooo! Also known as: Do not want!

I understand, I would not try to make it to a dueling league if it were that late/early.

[spidernl]

Noooooooooo! Also known as: Do not want!

I understand, I would not try to make it to a dueling league if it were that late/early.

 

Less drama and more logic and maths: If 7-10pm "our" time is 4-7 am "his" time, that means that not-so-early morning (10 am or so) for "us" is 7pmish for "him".

Therefore you could add morning times. Unless you're willing to play at 4 am or so.

 

Edit: Oh, something else: I suggest making the 1st/2nd/3rd prizes "base" and adding a portion of the entry fees (proportionally) to them as people sign up.

E.g. for every 10k you could add 5k to first prize, 2.5k to second and 1.25k to third prize, leaving you with 1.25k "compensation" per signup and making the jackpot more

jummy as you go.

Edited September 28, 2010 by spidernl

[Vorb]

I realy like the idea of being able to let players from all timezones play. But I think that if you added another set of times,

mostly what this would lead to is players being unable to play due to other players picking other times.

 

One other thing to try would be to seperate people out on a timezone basis, but in the end,

players from one timezone will have to fight players from another time zone. I don't see an easy way around this.

 

Oh, and the entry fees already go into the prizes. Guess I ninja edited it.

[toxic_intruder]

whats UTC o.o

 

id be interested in playing since it seems i tend to play around the sorta uptime of the server, 10k seems reasonable if we can get the stuff with the times figured out, and its alright if players like me who dont play reliably can join in randomly..?

[Vorb]

UTC is Coordinated Universal Time, its the same time as GMT.

Usually, other time zones are in reference to UTC. Try looking it up on Wikipedia.

 

If you sign up but can't make it, no worrys, although this does mean that anyone you would have fought wins by default.

Also, you have to sign up at the start. Sorry.

[OrangeeoZ]

Idea:

 

Instead of duels occurring on weekends at 8 or 9 or 10 or 11 PM UTC, why not let the players duel on their own free time by scheduling with their opponents.

 

Of course you will need yourself, the opponent, and another person to watch over.

 

Once the match is completed, the winner will post the scores with a screenshot.

 

You may attract more people this way because a lot of people are busy, especially during the weekends, and may be too early or late for most of the subspace population to handle.

Edited October 2, 2010 by OrangeeoZ

[omni]

Imo do a euro league and a US league, then winners face off for championships. Sort of like west and east conferences.

[spidernl]

Imo do a euro league and a US league, then winners face off for championships. Sort of like west and east conferences.

 

Rather pointless due to the 99:1 US:Euro ratio.

[omni]

Well those times are all for euro people, so I don't know. Arent you euro too spidernl?

[»D1st0rt]

we'll do that, but rename the US division to awesome division and euro division to loser division and automatically crown awesome division winner zone champions

[spidernl]

Well those times are all for euro people, so I don't know. Arent you euro too spidernl?

 

If they were for euro people they'd be 6 pm - 9 pm UTC or so.

They're euro times intended to be "manageable" for non-euros.

 

Either way, I think the way to go is to simply split players into groups (preferably by time zone) and then letting them duel others in their group in their own time in say a week.

Get a couple referees to make sure the duelers are following the rules and off you go.

[Corey]

Orangeez had the best idea, probly the only one that might actually work.

[Vorb]

The picked those times because they are mostly acceptable in most of europe, and ok in america.

 

I'm averse to the idea of letting players determine time, because they're often so bad at it.

Don't get me wrong, I think that alot players would be fine at it, but alot of players aren't.

 

Its also much more difficult to sort it out if the players can't agree, I mean,

if both players are being about as reasonable as eachother, who do you remove from the league?

 

Do you think moving it from sat/sun to fri/sat would help?

[OrangeeoZ]

Do you think moving it from sat/sun to fri/sat would help?

 

No.

 

1. It's the time zone

2. Real life situations on weekends

3. Work (like me)

4. Church on Sunday (like me)

5. School ex. homework

6. Quizzes/Tests/Exams

[Vorb]

No.

 

1. It's the time zone

2. Real life situations on weekends

3. Work (like me)

4. Church on Sunday (like me)

5. School ex. homework

6. Quizzes/Tests/Exams

Sooo... friday is worse then sunday? How about fri/sat/sun?

Or are you just saying, changing the days wont effect how bad you think this method is?

[Corey]

The only time ive seen one of these player run duels work is by letting the players choose their own times. Simply let the 2 players choose the time, and if one is not there 5 mins after the start time, then he is disqualified.

[omni]

The only time ive seen one of these player run duels work is by letting the players choose their own times. Simply let the 2 players choose the time, and if one is not there 5 mins after the start time, then he is disqualified.

 

I haven't seen this work. The majority of players are too stupid or uncoordinated to schedule a match and see it through with another player. The only ones I've seen work are MWarrior's and Masaru's, which had set times and the tournament was completed in one day, within 2 hours.

 

Imo, announce a time for the tourney that you feel is reasonable to the most people, and just allow signups at that time. They pay half an hour before hand, you set up a bracket, and the tourney begins.

 

Anything more complicated than that, due to experience from the past, probably will not be seen through.

[NuB KiNG]

can this be done in an arena where all ship settings are equal?

 

and where the heck is poison ink