L.C. Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) A few hours ago my kernel forced a memdump after having attached ignore packets to resource overload alerts from multitasking on too many unique instructions simultaneously. I had exceeded my capable number of execution threads. I then felt disoriented and confused for a while as my memory fully desaturated to 0% allocation. Edited April 13, 2010 by L.C. Quote
L.C. Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) -_- but then it means I have to figure out where I left off...cause everything got killall *'d forced termination X_x it was really weird, because I couldn't think. It's like my brain turned off. I couldn't poll my consciousness/conscious thought/conscious spectrum for status report of whether or not it was even there must have also ran out of memory...which could have also triggered core services to fold and hang the entire system for a moment...which then caused the kernel to go into a panic Brain farts are common.hm, well I don't know. I've had brain farts before ... but never really associated them with memory dumps. It's kind of like holding that kind of memory in L2/L3 cache, and then a sudden inconsistency in vcore voltage causes the CPU to lose its memory just like that (but then who has ever heard of that happening? That is more like a faulty CPU)... Brain farts are quick, painless, and stressless. The one I experienced here wasn't quick, involved some very subtle, minor, almost-silent pains, and definitely involved high CPU usage (whenever you boot, CPU usage is usually high for a bit to get everything loaded ASAP). I can't quite say it was a 'shutdown -r now' either; or maybe it partly was. Brings back memories of past occurrences -- like this one time I had a segfault. O_o I can't remember how to describe it, but I collaborated with other people via IRC and they confirmed it to be a segfault (which also rhetorically fits anyway to whatever the symptoms and conditions were). I definitely know of one thing I could do that would end up triggering a page fault / vram artifact screen. Nowadays I don't get it any more...must be the transparent kernel updates. Edited April 13, 2010 by L.C. Quote
whalz Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 wow this thread is godly, i havent a clue only thing i can relate to in this thread is 'kernel' and 'brain fart' amazing~! Quote
Cheese Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 when i have enough kernels, i make popcorn :3 Quote
L.C. Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) This morning, before coming out of hibernation mode, I dual booted to a Windows-like OS to run a virtual machine of Debian to execute dream-sequence programs. EDIT: ^ rootkit-based execution Edited April 13, 2010 by L.C. Quote
»Lynx Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) The kernel doesn't call a memory dump, the operating system does. It's impossible to exceed on execution threads. If you've had to memory dump, you wouldn't "see" your memory desaturate. Go outside. http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/blum.gif edit: what would a windows-like operating system be? Edited April 13, 2010 by Lynx Quote
»Xog Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) The kernel doesn't call a memory dump, the operating system does. It's impossible to exceed on execution threads. If you've had to memory dump, you wouldn't "see" your memory desaturate. Go outside. http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/blum.gif edit: what would a windows-like operating system be? Probably ReactOS, it's basically an opensource Windows. http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html ReactOS® is a free, modern operating system based on the design of Windows® XP/2003. Written completely from scratch, it aims to follow the Windows-NT® architecture designed by Microsoft from the hardware level right through to the application level. This is not a Linux based system, and shares none of the unix architecture. The main goal of the ReactOS project is to provide an operating system which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your Windows applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows system. Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating system is used, such that people accustomed to the familiar user interface of Windows® would find using ReactOS straightforward. The ultimate goal of ReactOS is to allow you to remove Windows® and install ReactOS without the end user noticing the change. Edited April 13, 2010 by Xog Quote
»freakmonger Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) god you guys are geeks You made my head hurt Edited April 13, 2010 by freakmonger Quote
L.C. Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) The kernel doesn't call a memory dump, the operating system does. It's impossible to exceed on execution threads. If you've had to memory dump, you wouldn't "see" your memory desaturate. Go outside. http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/blum.gif edit: what would a windows-like operating system be?Well my kernel, as biologically identified, can call a memory dump ... so, hah! http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/blum.gif I'm using a custom compile of MentalOS, which contains a modified kernel. Besides, I was describing feelings as naturally as I could. I wasn't writing any of that because I suddenly decided to parallel reality with computers. I wrote it that way because that's how I actually thought. (Yes, absolute geek here. It's like the day your dreams become epic Subspace fights, and you find yourself waking up inside a warbird. pew pew pew) Edited April 13, 2010 by L.C. Quote
MikeTheNose Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 wow this thread is godly, i havent a clue only thing i can relate to in this thread is 'kernel' and 'brain fart' amazing~! Try not to think too hard. You might hurt yourself. Your CPU will end up overheating which will then cause many memory errors and ultimately lead to bad hard drive sectors while attempting to write new data. Corruption will then proceed well into the installation of a new operating system and by that time you are absolutely screwed. Time to get a screw driver and remove your affected hardware. Quote
»D1st0rt Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/facepalm.gif someone needs to take an operating systems class so they understand how they actually work Quote
L.C. Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) ultimately lead to bad hard drive sectors while attempting to write new data.How does that happen? I thought bad sectors only occurred via physical damage... ? http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/facepalm.gif someone needs to take an operating systems class so they understand how they actually work One step at a time. Edited April 14, 2010 by L.C. Quote
MikeTheNose Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Tell that to my old hard drive. Nah, you are probably right. It was the boot sector that got all messed up and became unrecoverable. Quote
Samapico Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Even I find this topic incredibly nerdy Quote
»Lynx Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Kernel = file manager, schedular, dispatcher, memory manager and device manager (to keep it broadly simple). Oh, and apparently Internet explorer according to microsoft... Memory dumping falls into none of those categories, memory dumping is just convienient output. And wow. Windows like operating systems. Do they run win software out of the box?? If they don't, then they fail epicly. Quote
Samapico Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 And wow. Windows like operating systems. Do they run win software out of the box?? If they don't, then they fail epicly. The main goal of the ReactOS project is to provide an operating system which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your Windows applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows system.I don't know if they DO, but that's their main objective, obviously Quote
»Lynx Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 ultimately lead to bad hard drive sectors while attempting to write new data.How does that happen? I thought bad sectors only occurred via physical damage... ? bad sectors occur when parity checks can't be made/corrected, and can occur due to shitty software or hardware failing, and probably an array of other reasons. And I just noticed what you meant by MentalOS now. http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/blum.gif Quote
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