FranKllr Posted March 14, 2010 Report Posted March 14, 2010 Having huge lag from 66.36.224.209 nyc1.ge11-2.core2.dca2.hopone.net. Affecting most of the zone. http://frankllr.comuv.com/image/zonered.png This is every weekend, from somewhere in the morning to around middle of the afternoon on East Time.I don't mind much atm since I play mostly DSB. After some cycle on TW, 66.36.224.209 gets removed, but this never happen in game. ATM, we are at least two from Canada, province of Quebec, affected by that. We live around 100km apart, two different ISP. Any suggestion? Tracing Zone: SSCU Trench Wars IP Address: 66.36.241.110 Hop IP Address Host Name Loss(%) Min/Avg/Max Ping --- --------------- -------------------------------- ------- ---------------- 1 192.168.1.1 <unknown> 0.0 0 0 0 2 ... ... 0.0 1000000 0 0 3 172.30.1.113 <unknown> 0.0 0 10 10 4 172.30.9.155 <unknown> 0.0 0 10 10 5 66.199.145.205 <unknown> 0.0 0 0 10 6 216.187.115.93 10ge.xe-5-0-0.mtl-bvh-cor-1.peer 80.0 10 10 10 7 216.187.115.54 oc192.xe-4-0-0.nyc-telx-dis-1.pe 80.0 20 20 20 8 172.30.1.113 <unknown> 20.0 10 10 20 9 66.36.224.209 nyc1.ge11-2.core2.dca2.hopone.ne 80.0 670 670 670 10 172.30.8.9 <unknown> 0.0 10 10 20 11 66.36.241.110 sls-cb9p7.dca2.superb.net 0.0 20 20 20 Cycles: 5 Here is the Hop dropped. Tracing Zone: SSCU Trench Wars IP Address: 66.36.241.110 Hop IP Address Host Name Loss(%) Min/Avg/Max Ping --- --------------- -------------------------------- ------- ---------------- 1 192.168.1.1 <unknown> 0.0 0 0 0 2 ... ... 0.0 1000000 0 0 3 172.30.1.113 <unknown> 0.0 0 10 20 4 172.30.9.155 <unknown> 0.0 0 20 190 5 66.199.145.205 <unknown> 0.0 0 10 10 6 216.187.115.93 10ge.xe-5-0-0.mtl-bvh-cor-1.peer 94.1 10 10 10 7 216.187.115.54 oc192.xe-4-0-0.nyc-telx-dis-1.pe 93.7 20 20 20 8 172.30.1.113 <unknown> 6.2 0 10 20 9 172.30.1.113 nyc1.ge11-2.core2.dca2.hopone.ne 56.2 0 100 670 10 172.30.8.9 <unknown> 0.0 0 10 20 11 66.36.241.110 sls-cb9p7.dca2.superb.net 0.0 20 20 20 Cycles: 16 Quote
Samapico Posted March 14, 2010 Report Posted March 14, 2010 Do you get 600ms ping if you enter the zone as well? Also, people will tell you to get at least 50 cycles on that trace to get valid results. And I have no problem here from Montréal with my ISP being CoopTel (I didn't choose it... University residences) Quote
FranKllr Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Posted March 15, 2010 Yes, I get the same ping when in game. As told earlier, trace change over time, the faulty hop get dropped. But, as specified, it do not happen when in game. Lag just stick. Next weekend, I will do a 50 cycle. I will be like the 16 cycle. Quote
Cheese Posted March 15, 2010 Report Posted March 15, 2010 hopone.net has been a notorious packet dropper. many ppl have had huge lag, to the point where tw sent lawyers after hopone or something, and theyre still too dumb and lazy to get off their fat asses and fix their broken shit. old news is old. Quote
Johnson Posted March 15, 2010 Report Posted March 15, 2010 If you look down a few posts, you'd notice I too made a topic about this... for a reason still unknown to me, as I tried MANY things to get rid of it, one eventually worked, sadly, i dont know which, but I have got rid of my hopone lag by bypassing the hop and taking 2 extra hops. Quote
»freakmonger Posted March 15, 2010 Report Posted March 15, 2010 tw sent lawyers after hopone lol? Quote
L.C. Posted March 15, 2010 Report Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) Solution? Move. EDIT: This isn't a practical solution. Edited March 15, 2010 by L.C. Quote
FranKllr Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Posted March 15, 2010 If you look down a few posts, you'd notice I too made a topic about this... for a reason still unknown to me, as I tried MANY things to get rid of it, one eventually worked, sadly, i dont know which, but I have got rid of my hopone lag by bypassing the hop and taking 2 extra hops. Aww, should posted on your 20 January 2010 post. Well, not only affecting my area, and been around longer than I thought. On sort term, I am only planning to start playing PowerBall, and don't have lag when games takes place, so all good for now. If no suggestion, will just sit and wait that they happen to fix their things. Thanks Quote
etrigan Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 Not to beat a dead horse...but 'eh' why not resurrect a thread: Pretty interesting that I have seen the same type of ploss and nearly the same pings(650ms) in my traces. The culprit has been: 154.54.24.146 vl2.msfc1.distb2.dca2.hopone.net The interesting thing is that the ploss and high pings fix themselves everyday at 1pm EST or so. I have no idea when its starts to get bad, but its likely while I'm still sleeping. So I'm not sure if hopone.net or superb are doing something in the morning hours and finishing around 1pm every afternoon. The very specific pings make me think it is some sort of traffic shaping. Maybe they are giving priority to other packets in a certain time frame. Not sure if anyone else has noticed this trend, but I have to wonder just how many others and/or new players are seeing this lag and not playing because of it. If the number is substantial, you'd have to wonder what superb.net is offering that another hosting company isn't....and why not switch? Quote
PoLiX Posted April 23, 2010 Report Posted April 23, 2010 What is odd is I have never had issues with them, even out of that datacenter. Priit might move hosts, but would be some pursuading... Will see if anything can be done I guess, now that he is "actively" communicating again. Quote
etrigan Posted April 23, 2010 Report Posted April 23, 2010 Little more info: Tracing Zone: SSCU Trench Wars IP Address: 66.36.241.110 Hop IP Address Host Name Loss(%) Min/Avg/Max Ping --- --------------- -------------------------------- ------- ---------------- 1 128.230.128.1 <unknown> 0.0 0 0 40 2 128.230.61.2 backboneb.syr.edu 0.0 0 0 180 3 128.230.61.113 <unknown> 0.0 0 0 200 4 64.132.176.169 hagg-01-t3-0-1-3-0.roch.twteleco 0.0 0 0 90 5 66.192.242.253 peer-01-so-0-0-0.nycl.twtelecom. 0.0 10 10 70 6 154.54.24.146 vl2.msfc1.distb2.dca2.hopone.net 16.1 0 0 10 7 66.36.241.110 sls-cb9p7.dca2.superb.net 0.0 10 10 20 Cycles: 1291 Just a note...the first 80-100 cycles were 85-95% ploss....i stopped looking after a bit and let it run...and it was steadily going down when I got back to it... Each cycle the ploss was decreasing by .1% after it reached 30% or so ploss. Again this latency fixes itself sometime after 1pm EST(for me at least). Which makes me believe that it is some sort of traffic shaping. For comparison(same time frame 9:30am EST), a trace to a non superb.net host: Tracing Zone: SSCE Hyperspace IP Address: 208.122.59.226 Hop IP Address Host Name Loss(%) Min/Avg/Max Ping --- --------------- -------------------------------- ------- ---------------- 1 128.230.128.1 <unknown> 0.0 0 0 50 2 128.230.61.2 backboneb.syr.edu 0.0 0 10 210 3 128.230.61.113 <unknown> 0.0 0 10 210 4 64.132.176.169 hagg-01-t3-0-1-3-0.roch.twteleco 0.0 0 0 110 5 66.192.242.253 peer-01-so-0-0-0.nycl.twtelecom. 0.0 10 10 40 6 208.122.44.202 0.ae59.tsr1.lga5.us.voxel.net 0.0 10 10 20 7 208.122.44.210 0.ae57.csr2.lga6.us.voxel.net 0.0 10 10 40 8 208.122.44.166 v70.esr2.lga6.us.voxel.net 0.0 10 10 110 9 208.122.44.238 v73.esr3.c3.lga6.us.voxel.net 0.0 10 10 20 10 208.122.59.218 <unknown> 0.0 10 10 10 11 208.122.59.226 zone.rshl.org 0.0 10 10 10 Cycles: 1086 Quote
FranKllr Posted April 25, 2010 Author Report Posted April 25, 2010 Yesterday, Saturday 24th, it was at 600++ ms. But today, it is 11:16 am, and all good.Your theory of priority / traffic management is quite possible and they might finally unlocked sundays.Fishy. Quote
SoM Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 I've had this problem for over a year or so, at first it was only Sundays 11am - 1pm EST. Now its everyday and sometimes last til 2 EST. Quote
etrigan Posted May 3, 2010 Report Posted May 3, 2010 Its also worth it to note that PeerBlock, blocks all of the HopOne hosted servers...guess they are considered the bad guys when it comes to them... Quote
FranKllr Posted May 29, 2010 Author Report Posted May 29, 2010 Little follow up. After 2.5 month, still no joy. http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/bad.gif Quote
Guest grimy Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 I noticed that trace route shows that all but last 2 hops are hopone (the others inbetween changed to level3). I still have continuous 90%ploss from those last 2 hops, anyone else? Quote
FranKllr Posted June 8, 2010 Author Report Posted June 8, 2010 I ran screen capture last weekend.On Saturday, lag went away at 13:30 and Sunday at 13:15. Will do the same for upcoming weekend. That way I can tell when I can or cannot play matches for those zones. Quote
Paky Dude Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 I'm getting the same lag issue.. I'm on Verizon Fios and never had this problem with Comcast when I had it last year..... Quote
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