Chambahs Posted March 6, 2010 Report Posted March 6, 2010 Iran's Ahmadinejad: Sept. 11 attacks a 'big lie' Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Saturday called the official version of the Sept. 11 attacks a "big lie" used by the U.S. as an excuse for the war on terror, state media reported. More: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100306/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran I've always believed that Sept 11th was a set up that took "gotta break some eggs to make an omlette" to a whole new level by the US government. I totally believe Ahmadinejad, and ive always believed this, since day 1. My belief: Criminal Elements within the US Government staged a "false flag" Terror Attack on its own citizens, in order to manipulate the public perception into supporting its agenda. Its all staged to manipulate the american people into believing what the government is doing is right, but when you think about it, you might as well just spread your cheeks, cuz your getting raped by the US government. 11 months prior to Sept 11th: N.Rockefeller had a conversation with Aaron Russo and said the following things: "Theres going to be an event where we are going to go into afghanistan to make pipes running from the caspian sea, we are going to go into iraq, take their oil and establish a military base. We are going to go into caves and look for people who they arent ever gonna find." Then proceded to laugh and say, "You have this war on terror, theres no real enemy. By having a war on terror, you can never win it, its an eternal war and so you can always keep taking people's liberties away." How can you convince people that this war is real? The media. The media can convince everyone that the war is real. You keep talking about things, and keep saying it over and over and over again, eventually people are going to believe it. 2 words: Patriot Act. "The Act increases the ability of law enforcement agencies to search telephone, e-mail communications, medical, financial, and other records; eases restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering within the United States; expands the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities; and broadens the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting immigrants suspected of terrorism-related acts. The act also expands the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied." "Opponents of the law have criticized its authorization of indefinite detentions of immigrants; searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner’s or the occupant’s permission or knowledge; the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the FBI to search telephone, e-mail, and financial records without a court order; and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records." Pretty much a "Whatever the fuck we wanna do" pass. They can strip your constitutional rights and throw the label "Terrorist" on you and pretty much detain you for "reason to believe that you are a terrorist". Why did people agree to this? Because of fear and manipulation. Does this sound familiar? Holocaust ring a bell? Replace the word "Terrorist" with "Jew". My Point: Think for yourself, dont let anyone or anything manipulate your mind. Debate. Quote
»D1st0rt Posted March 7, 2010 Report Posted March 7, 2010 Are you fucking serious? There is absolutely no way the government is competent enough to pull something like this off. What is far more likely is that we've been meddling in the affairs of people thousands of miles away for the past 30 years and it just took this long for some of them to get an elaborate enough plan together because OH WAIT THATS WHAT HAPPENED. Go away, troll. Quote
L.C. Posted March 7, 2010 Report Posted March 7, 2010 There is absolutely no way the government is competent enough to pull something like this off.Because it would be too big to believe. Quote
Chambahs Posted March 7, 2010 Author Report Posted March 7, 2010 Wow, how more closed minded can you be d1? Quote
Samapico Posted March 7, 2010 Report Posted March 7, 2010 I doubt they pulled it off, but they sure took advantage of it afterwards... Quote
Hakaku Posted March 7, 2010 Report Posted March 7, 2010 Well, if that stuff interests you, you ought to look up the series "9/11 Coincidences" on youtube. Quote
»D1st0rt Posted March 7, 2010 Report Posted March 7, 2010 I doubt they pulled it off, but they sure took advantage of it afterwards...Oh there are those that definitely capitalized on it without a doubt and they were probably even waiting for something like it to happen. No way they did it though. Wow, how more closed minded can you be d1?How more naive and/or vain can you be? WOAH GUYS I JUST BLEW THE LID OFF A HUGE CONSPIRACY WITH NOTHING BUT IDLE SPECULATION AND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME SPENT ON THE INTERNET! No, you didn't. People have been obsessing over this way harder for almost 10 years now and they don't have anything credible to suggest your ill-conceived theory holds any water at all. Quote
accident93 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 Because it would be too big to believe. Quote
NBVegita Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 I don't believe the government organized it. I do believe, much like pearl harbor, that they knew it was coming (maybe not to the full extent) yet allowed it to happen because of the aftermath they wanted. Remember when you're talking conspiracy theories and Ahmadinejad, he believes that the holocaust wasn't real and is simply a giant conspiracy. Quote
Samapico Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 Jews did 9/11 and the holocaust, obviously Quote
NBVegita Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 Jews did 9/11 and the holocaust, obviously Wait...to go along with that... How can you convince people that this war is real? The media. The media can convince everyone that the war is real. You keep talking about things, and keep saying it over and over and over again, eventually people are going to believe it. ...and the Jews are renown for controlling the media...so the Jews are the heart of the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!!?!?!! Maybe Hitler was right...damn Jews. I say we go all Jihad on them, where all my mujahideen at? Quote
»Purge Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 My Point: Think for yourself, dont let anyone or anything manipulate your mind. Debate. If you actually think about it beyond looking at common arguments from 9/11 conspirators, it doesn't make sense. Nor do I ever think the US would stoop so low to merely carry out a capitalist "agenda". Quote
Sketter Posted March 9, 2010 Report Posted March 9, 2010 The government is not competent to carry out a plan like that, yet we portray men living and hiding in caves can? I'm not saying they did it to their own country, there isn't enough evidence to support it. BUT it is likely they knew about it, and they definitely abused what happened for personal gain. And if I say so myself, did a magnificent job at it, for Iraq, had nothing to do with 9/11. The smartest people in politics are the ones that are in the spotlight. There are some really smart and greedy people out there. And we have been killing over money and power from the beginning. A drug dealing killing another to protect his turf and to keep his client, is no different then killing another man because he wouldn't give up his oil to us for our clients. And then put him on trial for things he did 20 years ago that we just happened to neglect until it became covenant. It was planned so well to a detail, but they can not plan to find a man in a cave. These smart people don't think 2-3 years down the road, they think 10-30 years down the road. What you saw then and now, is what they saw 20 years ago. Its all a good game! Quote
Simulacrum Posted March 9, 2010 Report Posted March 9, 2010 The government is not competent to carry out a plan like that, yet we portray men living and hiding in caves can?There is a substantial difference in that Al Qaeda did not try to conceal their responsibility for the attack. The hijacking itself was relatively easy, but it would be relatively difficult to arrange it without exposing the organization's general involvement. Quote
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