Previous Trench Wars owner

[rootbear75]

So i found this guy on an IRC channel (playing the Real version of IdleRPG)

 

[17:39] I just saw your class on the bot. By SubSpace vet... do you mean the old online space shooter?

[19:38] why yes

[19:38] surprised you actually know that lol

[19:38] I played it back in the day myself.

[19:39] we're still around

[19:39] u should come back and play

[19:40] lol nah I left for a good reason.

[19:41] y?

[19:42] lol you won't believe me.

[19:42] Most people don't.

[19:43] try me

[19:45] try me

[19:46] Well... I use to own Trench Wars.

[19:46] no one owns trench wars dude

[19:47] or ever owns trench wars

[19:47] Uhm PriitK does. Or did. I owned it before him and DoCk.

[19:47] O.o

[19:47] orly?

[19:47] well if you owned it, then a) why did u give it up, why did u leave?

[19:47] Yeah. I actually gave it to them... temporarily as I needed to step down to rethink things.

[19:48] what year was this>

[19:48] I gave them the sysop password. Told them to keep me informed of it if it were changed. They decided to change it without telling me.

[19:48] Probably 98-99?

[19:48] They changed it and basically pretended that the conversation never happened.

[19:48] It happened in a private arena

[19:49] At the time they were my head SMod's

[19:49] PriitK had just started developing roboref at the time.

[19:50] as far as me and the subspace community knows, PriitK 1) made the new continuum cient

[19:50] and 2) made Trench wars

[19:50] He did make the new client. He didn't make trench wars.

[19:50] Neither did I in fact.

[19:50] It was given to me to run by Baudchaser. Who at the time ran most of the zone's in what is now SSCU

[19:50] It was iNet back then.

[19:51] Thing is the history has been blatantly misrepresented.

[19:51] DoCk flat out lied about me repeatedly. Claiming I was an abusive admin and the worst cheater in trench wars history.

[19:51] Which I can see how he came to that conclusion. Though it's grossly inaccurate.

[19:52] That's why I have some what of a... aversion to going back.

[19:53] I love the game don't get me wrong. But I got screwed several times.

[19:54] dude

[19:54] im going to pass this on to the community...

[19:54] if thats okay with you

[19:55] its not that i don't belive you

[19:55] its just well... we are trying to get a complete history written down

[19:55] priitK and dock both are essentially non-existant

[19:55] so if that was a problem (mostly them) you could probably be fine coming back

[19:55] Yeah I've noticed that.

[19:55] we only talk to priit to get server updates

[19:55] what was ur ss nick

[19:55] The Ghost Ship

[19:56] (Not to be confused with Alex... Ghost Ship)

[19:56] ok i was about to say

[19:56] Yeah it was confusing back then too lol.

 

Does anyone remember "The Ghost Ship" ?

[PoLiX]

Wow, you are fucking retarded... haha "PriitK made Trench Wars"...

 

The Ghost Ship ran trench for quite some time. Dgus (sp?) and Silent Dragon created original Trench. And if I remember right TGS made trench wars dark which eventually merged into the zone, though not 100% on that. But I do remember the 2 zones, and remember The Ghost Ship running trench wars.

 

And yes, him and Alex got confused all the time. Read Ghost Ship's 20 questions for the GS and TGS confusion quote.

[»Xog]

Wow, you are fucking retarded... haha "PriitK made Trench Wars"...

 

The Ghost Ship ran trench for quite some time. Dgus (sp?) and Silent Dragon created original Trench. And if I remember right TGS made trench wars dark which eventually merged into the zone, though not 100% on that. But I do remember the 2 zones, and remember The Ghost Ship running trench wars.

 

And yes, him and Alex got confused all the time. Read Ghost Ship's 20 questions for the GS and TGS confusion quote.

 

haha, i read the 20 questions just recently.

 

i find it very very interesting and a huge coincidence that you bumped into TGS, rootbear. That was really cool.

[rootbear75]

yea, i dont know trench wars history soooo yea...

 

and yes it is a huge coincidence lol

[MikeTheNose]

TGS was my boss in that zone.

[rootbear75]

u can delete this thread on the account of my stupidity :/

[TGS]

I'd just like to clear up Trench Wars Dark had little if anything to do with me. I actually ran the same Trench Wars that is running now. Though after thinking about it more. I think baudchaser had actually lefted by then and it was BD Vine that appointed me to run Trench.

 

It was a long time ago after all.

 

Wow, you are fucking retarded... haha "PriitK made Trench Wars"...

 

The Ghost Ship ran trench for quite some time. Dgus (sp?) and Silent Dragon created original Trench. And if I remember right TGS made trench wars dark which eventually merged into the zone, though not 100% on that. But I do remember the 2 zones, and remember The Ghost Ship running trench wars.

 

And yes, him and Alex got confused all the time. Read Ghost Ship's 20 questions for the GS and TGS confusion quote.

 

I'd rather they didn't delete it. I'd love to see more people's take/input on this.

 

u can delete this thread on the account of my stupidity :/

[Testtube]

Holy Crap long time no see.

Pretty much everything TGS said was true. Priitk was a mod later promoted to smod I got Dock> Also known as docklynez involved in the game from IRC and made him a mod and then later a smod and then he became sysop along with priitk Please refer to http://subspacedownloads.com/interviews/dock.txt for reference I don't recall what happened with TGS however i do remember him and myself abusing UFO and super alot in pub.

 

Dock and I used to be Hard core IRC HACKERS!

Edited February 13, 2010 by Testtube

[X_PennyWise]

Dock and I used to be Hard core IRC HACKERS!

 

 

That brings back some memories. God I wish DalNet still let you use fservs...

[TGS]

Hahaha TT I don't call using UFO and most of the players having a blast "abuse". Granted I remember copping a bit of flak from certain people who considered it as such.

 

Which funny enough I read awhile back in some random article/interview with DoCk (It could be the one you posted though modified) where DoCk> actually cited me as being the worst cheater in TW history. Kinda ironic when most of the players had so much fun. Though looking back on it now I can see very easily how people might call it abuse. No permanent harm was ever done, I made sure of that.

 

What's sad is when I left SS I went back to IRC myself. Mostly on UnderNet. Hence my name being shortened to TGS as TheGhostShip got cut down to TheGhostS due to the 9 character limit.

 

I have to say though it's good to see you're still around and kicking TestTube. We'll have to catch up sometime.

Edited February 13, 2010 by The Ghost Ship

[Testtube]

Undernet is my old stomping grounds

[TGS]

Damn really? Did you go by TestTube there? I'm surprised I've never seen you. That's rather sad. Both on the same network and never ran into each other.

[Testtube]

what channel do you hang out in?

[TGS]

None anymore. I stopped going to UnderNet a couple years ago. Though I use to hang out in the Coder-Com channel mostly.

[Gravitron]

The original creator of Trench Wars (not to be confused with VIE's Trench) was Sybris Dragon. He quit SS eons ago due to the so many political power plays and shit that were flying/going around, which is why Baudchaser quit as well.

 

I've always known Dock to be a nice and honest person, at least in our conversations, this is actually quite the surprise for me.

 

 

Wow, you are fucking retarded... haha "PriitK made Trench Wars"...

Some newbs think that SubSpace as a whole was by his inception, so sure, why the hell not...

Edited February 17, 2010 by Ori Klein

[TGS]

Uh you're thinking Silent Dragon. And no he wasn't the original creator. He was merely the guy that made the map that was used when I ran it.

 

As far as "Not to be confused with VIE Trench" There was never a VIE Trench. You might be thinking of Turf. Not Trench Wars.

 

And as far as I've heard DoCk is a nice and honest person. However he did not obtain Trench Wars from me through honest means. I took him and PriitK into a private arena. I had discussed with them that I was taking a break and a step down temporarily and that I was to be informed of changes in the sysop password and that I would come back to active management in a few weeks to a month. Upon leaving and coming in the next day as a regular player they both pretended that conversation never occured and that I had "given" the zone to them.

 

Take that how you will. It's what happened.

[Gravitron]

Uh you're thinking Silent Dragon. And no he wasn't the original creator. He was merely the guy that made the map that was used when I ran it.

 

As far as "Not to be confused with VIE Trench" There was never a VIE Trench. You might be thinking of Turf. Not Trench Wars.

 

And as far as I've heard DoCk is a nice and honest person. However he did not obtain Trench Wars from me through honest means. I took him and PriitK into a private arena. I had discussed with them that I was taking a break and a step down temporarily and that I was to be informed of changes in the sysop password and that I would come back to active management in a few weeks to a month. Upon leaving and coming in the next day as a regular player they both pretended that conversation never occured and that I had "given" the zone to them.

 

Take that how you will. It's what happened.

 

Ops, my bad, yes Silent Dragon. Sybris Dragon was the guy who ran the Nihilius Syndicate guild.

He might not have made the original settings, but he had the zone and his map was being used forever since.

And yes again, I was thinking of Turf, durr.

 

Well, at this age I'm grateful to just wake up in the morning.

[TGS]

Hahaha it's okay bud. I understand perfectly. I just have to be as clear as I can about the facts. The nature of the subject makes it a bit too easy for people to add/change/remove elements that ultimately mislead.

 

There have been several different versions of this story floating around. Even I have been corrected a couple times about points that I'd forgotten such as the use of UFO/Super. I forgot that I did occasionally use it in public. I can see why people might have thought I was the "worst cheater in TW history". Though at the time almost everyone had fun with it.

 

It was a very long time ago all the same. Silent Dragon use to be a good friend of mine though. I knew him before TW and After. Though I don't really talk to him anymore sadly.