Subspace Radio

[dezmond]

3 nights ago I told him I wanted to do a show and that you weren't online. I then asked him if he had access to the server and he said no. :\

I sent everything about radio to him and Broly. I will give him the server details for the last time, Xog.

 

Indeed, if you permit people to play uncensored song, TW will refuse to join.

 

I think a good concession would be to make a certain schedule, where you have "clean" hours and some "raw" hours. TW could get their DJ to play on the Clean hours, and block the radio advertising on the raw hours. Or something like that...

Nice idea Audry.

[Confess]

Shlazzer, if you + the other servers are using Shoutcast, which I would assume you are...you can have them redirect their radio servers to become a 'relay server', so that it increases the amount of player count you have + limits any possible loss of listeners due to IP connections.

[kingtaco11]

Wait, so do all songs have to be the radio edit?

 

 

In order for TW to comply, yes. They're rule Nazis. Apparently saying the N word even if it's not used in a harmful context will get you banned.

 

 

Sigh... There goes my opportunity to be a DJ then.

 

TW=Racist

[»Lynx]

I thought that makes them the opposite of racist.

[L.C.]

I thought that makes them the opposite of racist.

+1

 

I am pretty sure kingtaco11 doesn't know what he's talking about when he says that.

[X_PennyWise]

Couldn't you just set up two stations for SS radio that plays the same songs, just one censored and one not censored? Each zone could agree which link to advertise depending on their rules

[»Lynx]

Couldn't you just set up two stations for SS radio that plays the same songs, just one censored and one not censored? Each zone could agree which link to advertise depending on their rules

 

I think that this is a good idea. Calling TW retarded for disagreeing on what kind of music you play though, that's not a good idea.

[rootbear75]

there has to be some way of self-bleeping the radio yourself. so if you know its coming, you can bleep it.

[»Lynx]

Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

[Shlazzer]

Indeed, if you permit people to play uncensored song, TW will refuse to join.

 

I think a good concession would be to make a certain schedule, where you have "clean" hours and some "raw" hours. TW could get their DJ to play on the Clean hours, and block the radio advertising on the raw hours. Or something like that...

 

Fantastic idea. TW solution found. Ty audrey

[Samapico]

Indeed, if you permit people to play uncensored song, TW will refuse to join.

 

I think a good concession would be to make a certain schedule, where you have "clean" hours and some "raw" hours. TW could get their DJ to play on the Clean hours, and block the radio advertising on the raw hours. Or something like that...

 

Fantastic idea. TW solution found. Ty audrey

I have the impression this will lead to the 'raw hours' being uselessly vulgar and whatnot... If you say some hours are 'raw hours' to people, they'll tune in expecting hard stuff and gangsta rap with the N word at every sentence. Otherwise they'd be disappointed.

[L.C.]

Why not just completely leave out vulgar, inappropriate material? All problems solved. Period.

[Shlazzer]

So censor ALL contemporary songs?

[L.C.]

EDIT2: If you have to censor inappropriate material, then do it (before hand if possible).

 

I believe you have a conception there (though might be misunderstanding) and thinking that the songs within your atmosphere = everything and all. There are plenty of songs out there that are appropriate/do not have vulgar material and such.

 

(PS. The above is opinion; I am not going to go into a full fledged debate/argument like some of the other threads we have on these forums citing sources, statistics, etc.)

 

And if need be, as I have often found, you can always make a "radio edit" version with inappropriate parts "photoshopped" out or whatever.

 

I get the impression that you are thinking it is the end of the world if swearing and cursing mode is disabled.

 

EDIT: Also, if you don't agree with me or need not my opinions and couple cents worth of thought, fine by me.

 

EDIT3: This reply is a mess lol.

Edited February 7, 2010 by L.C.

[Audry]

@Sama:

 

Raw might not be the good word... uncensored is. For the songs it is. It shouldnt give the right to the djs to drop N bomb all over the place and and such. You just need to make that crystal clear with the DJs.

 

@L.C.:

 

Yes it is a mess

 

My big problem with all the censoring, is that it seems like people only want the N word and such to be censored, when there is song with a way more offensive general message that wont get censored and considered alright to be played only because they chosed an "appropriate" vocabulary? I'm totally against that.

 

Plus, i do believe that if someone wrote a song a certain way, it should stay that way. It lose all its meaning with the censoring and the words changing in radio versions.

 

You get offended by all that? Then no one will force you to listen.

[Shlazzer]

I think that words are in songs for a reason. A lot of bands don't write radio edits purely based on the fact that they have those words in there. Language is important in any artistic discipline, and a radio edit is an edit of the language.

 

Also, do I really want to go through and censor my entire music library? God no. I don't buy music that is censored. I'm a big boy now, I get to listen to bad words.

 

Plus, if a BLACK GUY uses a racial slur about OTHER BLACK GUYS, how is that at all used in a racist context? I would never ever let anything exist on anything I was associated with that had racial intentions. I'm a very tolerant and liberal person. If mainstream black musicians want to refer to themselves as 'niggas', I have absolutely no problem with it. It is entirely their prerogative to refer to themselves any way they want. The context is what is important. Long and short of it being that 50 Cent using word the word 'nigga' is not racist. At all. If you examine the actual usage of the word 'nigger' by those of whom it originally referred to from a sociological perspective, the reason BEHIND it's now common usage is to ELIMINATE the racial power of the word.

 

This is one thing I'm not going to sway on. If language has to be censored, then YOU are missing out by being incredibly close minded and unreasonable but not associating yourself with the SS Radio network. I'll gladly make sure that the fact that the language is raw and real and uncensored is clearly advertised, so anyone who could POTENTIALLY be offended won't have to expose themselves to it.

 

And if there are any DJs who wish to specifically cater to the crowd who are offended by words, I will gladly bring them aboard, to widen the 'demographic' we hope to serve. But as it stands right now, if you require a completely clean radio, then I pity you, and you can just remove yourself from this discussion right now, and let the rest of us move on with progress, and not menial discussion about what is racist or acceptable.

[»Lynx]

So, yeah... After reading that post, I know that this will be just like the other 8937192831 attempts at getting SS-Radio started.

[Shlazzer]

I completely disagree. The only common factor I see is that TW still wants to try and instill a retarded sense of morality in anything they put their name next to.

[»Lynx]

Because kids play this game, and while the word 'nigger' may not be immediately racist; it's still derogatory, hence why we should refrain from using it, and furthermore refrain from streaming it on radio shows. It's not hard to set up tw-only DJs that abide by the rules that Trench Wars or other (politically correct) zones have, while letting other DJs play for other zones that are more lenient.

[Shlazzer]

At the same time I don't see why it is such a terrible thing to support something that isn't aimed at people who are offended by such language. They're aren't forcefully subjected to it. If they have a problem with it, then they don't listen to it. I can understand ingame censorship, but something as voluntary as listening to internet radio? Are you serious?

[»Lynx]

I can't believe I am going to say this but... If you had kids, I'm sure you'd understand. Listening to profane music should be the optional extra on top of clean music, not the other way around.

[Dr Brain]

Plus, if a BLACK GUY uses a racial slur about OTHER BLACK GUYS, how is that at all used in a racist context?

 

It should be the same whether they're white or black. It's racist to apply a different set of restrictions dependent on the color of the person.

[aquarius]

I doubt anybody in SS listens to the same music I do. Why don't we all just listen to our own music libraries and play the game. If you really want to setup a radio station, just do it. People who enjoy your music selection will listen, and others won't. Having TW or EG support your radio station is just fishing for listeners (defeating the purpose of music). Just listen to what you like. Host whatever songs you like. Host your music on a radio station for anyone who likes it.

[Shlazzer]

Its not solely for the purpose of sharing music. Its about creating a community that represents all of Subspace, for once in this game's history. I'm not talking about playing explicit music for the sake of explicit music. I'm talking about letting the music say what it will, without bleeping out words.

 

I don't understand why it is so difficult to let your players make their own decisions. If they are offended, they can tune out.

[aquarius]

If I owned a zone that hundreds of children play, I would not advertise a radio station that played gangster cRap or self-pitty/emotional music.