Important announcement!!!

[»D1st0rt]

Effective immediately, the following players are suspended from participating in any official league matches, on the grounds of name security:

 

Yoruichi

Deedlit

Klammy

Unix

 

Zone and league officials will be looking into this matter. Additionally, ref powers have been removed from the Unix+ account.

[Dr Brain]

Regardless of the outcome of this investigation, I'd like to make it clear that another player having your login information is grounds for removal of *any* hyperspace privileges, whether that be participation in leagues, races, or any other events.

 

Whether they actually log in during these events doesn't make any difference. It is unacceptable for other players to have that information.

[JoWie]

Such a rule has never been announced

[Samapico]

?changepassword

 

? Or does someone else owns the associated email address?

 

I don't quite understand the problem, though... What's the risk or whatever even if some other person logs in as, say Unix?

[spidernl]

?changepassword

 

? Or does someone else owns the associated email address?

 

I don't quite understand the problem, though... What's the risk or whatever even if some other person logs in as, say Unix?

 

A player thought to be Unix could be a referee for DDL, while not actually being Unix, for example. Unix was given referee powers for the DDL, however that other player wasn't given them, but can access them indirectly. = bad.

[»Ceiu]

Not to mention, name sharing defeats the purpose of drafting players in the first place. Also:

 

Unix> I'm terrible at spaceships. If I give you 50k, will you play for me in my league game?

Klammy> Sure!

Unix> Okay, here's pw: ...

[»D1st0rt]

Such a rule has never been announced

Such a rule was never announced because I figured it would be mind numbingly obvious, it's considered standard practice everywhere else I've ever heard of.

[JoWie]

Two players using the same name? This occurs a lot in multiplayer games. The only games where it should be a big issue are those pay per month games since it costs them subscriptions. I have regularly played on RPG names shared by more then 3 people, it cuts down on the mindnumbing grinding.

 

I do however, agree that one should not use multiple aliases in a league setting, but this was not the case.

 

One could argue about the implications for scamming people, but that will happen regardless of any such rule.

If two persons trust each other enough to share names, why would you care what the hell they are doing.

Edited January 17, 2010 by JoWie

[Acer]

Normally, I high doubt anyone cares but the fact is this is a league you've been picked not someone else that has been using your account, also Unix had ref powers and the staff might not trust the person Unix was sharing accounts with. (Though I highly doubt it takes a big level of trust to ref)

[BZAP]

I don't get it, either. The 'crime' of sharing an account seems awful trivial. As a team, I think it's safe to say that we'd prefer unix piloting as opposed to klammy (no offense to klammy). You guys give unix too much hate.

[»Ceiu]

I don't get how this is a difficult concept to understand. Sharing accounts brings about a lot of issues, including but not limited to:

 

- Refs sharing special access/permissions with players who would otherwise not have them.

- Players participating in events on another players behalf (double squadding/aliasing).

- Players being caught in other player's bans due to common account info.

- Scams, tracking and other "trust" issues.

 

 

Basically, it's a pain for league coordinators and zone management in general. Most zones I've ever played or staffed in have had very lengthy bans for all players involved when sharing is discovered due to the headaches it causes. I think the problem is a lot of players have developed a certain mentality on how things "should" work based on the fact that HS hasn't had a league or any seriously organized play before recently, so a lot of things that should have brought about the ban hammer have gone unpunished.

[Unix]

Alright, first I'd like to make sure that the league staff is aware, klammy has no ability to go on my names. None of them. In fact there's not one player in the zone or game itself who has access to them because I have serious trust issues and I dont want to even have to bother with it.

 

In other words, the league ref name and also any name associated with playing league cannot be touched by another player other than myself.

 

I do have access to klammy's account, and seeing as how he is not a league player, I dont see how that matters if I do have access to his account. Unless I'm mistaken, there is no zone rule about using someone elses account. If there is, there are going to be other players who are affected by this, I am definitely not the first player to have access to another player's account in the zone.

 

I was told by ipwn though that the real reason wasnt that I have access to klammy's account, but according to ?alias, klammy has been on my name. I am not sure why or how this is, but since that is the reason I am more than willing to cooperate with your investigation, even though I've pretty much answered everything I could possibly answer since the real problem is more about the technical side of ?alias and how it logs IPs and MacIDs etc.

 

I have played in several zones, and I have never known of any zone to enforce a "no sharing name" rule. Other than staff related names for obvious reasons. Whether or not it was in the middle of league or not even related to league. They were able to prove whether or not a player who was playing in the league matches was who they said they were.

[Dr Brain]

Maybe if you were less cryptic during the whole process it wouldn't have escalated to the point where you had to be suspended.

[Emit]

Unix is going to be an assistant coordinator as I have been busy. She is going to help manage the day to day scheduling etc... I will continue to manage the rules.

 

lol league so fial

[BDwinsAlt]

Unix is going to be an assistant coordinator as I have been busy. She is going to help manage the day to day scheduling etc... I will continue to manage the rules.

 

lol league so fial

Reality check: It's a 2D game. If it's such a big deal why don't you make the alias system detinguish between unix logging in on someone elses name, and someone else logging on her name. Do something with the IPs, I don't know, but maybe add an alert when someone logs in a staff account with a different ip than before if it's just such a big deal. Because the only way of knowing would by ?info and keeping a note of the ip and player.

 

There was no rule of name sharing, but I know HyperSpace likes to make up rules that never existed and try to use them. Not that it really matters since it's a free game (to most), and life goes on whether hyperspace is online or not.

[Emit]

its cuz hyperspace is very security prioritized

[spidernl]

[<> SNIP]

 

Psh. I don't have logs of the chat, but when Cerium asked you in team chat about the alias sharing, you evaded the question for about half an hour, and I never saw you answer (afterwards).

It might just be me, but that's about as suspicious as running out of a car you "did not steal" and climbing over the nearest fence to escape when you when cops approach you.

Edited January 28, 2010 by spidernl

[NuB KiNG]

Dear Unixidiot

 

Thanks for ruining HS League. Good to see you had to cheat to win at something, yet you got caught, idiot.