A message to all liberals.

[Aileron]

I've come to a simple conclusion. I'm not joking, exaggerating, using figures of speech, or anything of the sort. The following is the conclusion I have come to after a great deal of thought and observation over the behaviors of the human race. I mean this literally and with utmost honestly:

 

If you are liberal, I hope you die and rot in hell.

 

 

There, that's it. Now, before you get all self righteous and defensive on me, first off let me point out that I am not going to read the replies to this thread, so there's no point in trying to have a two-way conversation about this.

 

That being said, if you are a liberal, I know what you are thinking now. You all think the same way and respond to stimuli in a predictable fashion. You are thinking something along the lines of "How dare that ignorant prick say that." Depending on whether you feel threatened in life, itself a product of real world stimuli which I do not have means to know, will determine whether you flavor your interpretation of my statement as a threat or as the result of my ignorance. However, no matter what the root of your response will be convolution. Your response will be convoluted because you are a convoluted being. My response to your convolution is a solid 'f___ you' and a repetition of my earlier statement, because that convoluted nature is what started this whole mess anyway.

 

 

Now, I do not wish to make such a statement without explaining why I have come to such a radical conclusion. While talking to a liberal is marginally more productive to talking to a brick wall, I realize that there are also fair minded people who might read these words and wonder what the f___ has gotten me so p_____ off. Or maybe, you don't care. Maybe you just read it, interpreted it as one man's opinion and went on with your life, to which I say 'kudos, you make the world a better place' though I will also say 'Look, you have to watch liberal assholes because they are *not* like you'. Or maybe, you are wondering what I am smoking and want to have some of it yourself, in which case what I say is 'It's mine...get your own!!!'

 

However, I'll go back to those fair minded people who might be curious as to why I've reached that point. Actually, the real reason I explain myself is that I am still just liberal enough myself that I feel I *have* to explain myself when reality is that its a free world and I don't.

 

See, I was raised to believe that different people had different opinions, and that all opinions were pretty much equal. I have recently come to the conclusion that not only is that bogus, but it is in fact a front used to impose evil upon the world. See, when they use the term 'opinion', they really mean their 'great f___ing ideas' (GFI). Now, a GFI is military term defined by a pet idea that so-called 'smart' people tend to cook up which address first order problems while ignoring the negative second and third order consequences. To those who can't read between the lines, the second and third order consequences are worse than the first order solution, making the entire thing a net negative and the description an oxymoron.

 

The truth of the matter is that reality is what reality is. You can have an opinion which differs from reality, but if you do, its wrong, or at least wrong as far as its ability to function in the real world (a GFI can function in a fictitious world such as a movie.) See, the whole 'different peoples with different opinions' thing is really a lie trying to equate reality with GFIs. If my opinion is that the world is round, and you think the world is banana shaped, are our opinions equal?

 

Now, everybody comes up with GFIs, but in most people its a passing idea that is abandoned when the consequences are revealed. In plan speak, most people can admit when they are wrong, learn from it, and move on with their lives.

 

Now, enter the liberal. The liberal is a creature so convoluted that it thinks that it is smarter than the other 5 billion people on the planet, not to mention all of human history. I use the words 'creature' and 'it' because one does not have to be human to be a liberal. In fact, the first liberal was not human at all but rather Satan, who thought that his GFIs were better than God's plans, in turn bringing about sin and suffering. Thank you douche-bag.

 

I digress. The defining characteristic of a liberal is that rather than admit they are wrong and learn from it, they stick with their GFIs and damn the consequences. Rather than admit that their GFI is wrong, they rationalize an excuse for its failure. Furthermore, rather than deal with the consequences themselves, they tend to make *other* people suffer the consequences of *their* stupidity. After all, if they felt the consequences themselves, they would be encouraged to learn from their mistakes, and if that happened they would stop being a liberal.

 

Personally, I have reached the point in my life where I am tired of suffering the consequences of liberal's damned GFIs, though I will admit that I have not suffered even a small fraction of the suffering others have had to endure. After all, I'm still alive. However, the point is that I don't want to put up with it any more, and I'm not going to be civil about it. Their 'progressive ideas' are getting people killed or worse. I have no reason to play their game and pretend they are decent human beings, because reality is that they are evil and convoluted swine who just happen to be very good liars. Don't be fooled into thinking they are people with different opinions who in a drastic case of the Freudian Slip, have lost touch with reality. They *know* what reality is and *know* their ideas are flawed, but simply would rather have *you* suffer than for *them* to have to admit they make mistakes.

 

 

Attached is an Excel file showing some examples of famous GFIs in history. By no means is it an exclusive list. Heck, the *worst* GFIs are the ones you *don't* know about because the perps were successful at quietly snuffing out the people who suffered the consequences of their screw-up.

[»Lynx]

Aaand to summarise,

 

Blah, blah, blah.

[aquarius]

your post is a GFI

[»Blocks]

how do i know if im liberal is there a pee test? i dont want to die and rot and stuff

 

Now, before you get all self righteous and defensive on me, first off let me point out that I am not going to read the replies to this thread, so there's no point in trying to have a two-way conversation about this.

I tell you now, I am certain my words here will reach you.

 

More seriously now, it would seem that you at least purport to be Christian given your references to God and Satan. I don't know how you've deluded yourself into thinking that wishing eternal damnation on other people is consistent with Christianity.

 

Aside from that, your way of thinking is dangerous. Not much more to say here than that.

[»Lynx]

how do i know if im liberal is there a pee test? i dont want to die and rot and stuff

 

Now, before you get all self righteous and defensive on me, first off let me point out that I am not going to read the replies to this thread, so there's no point in trying to have a two-way conversation about this.

I tell you now, I am certain my words here will reach you.

 

More seriously now, it would seem that you at least purport to be Christian given your references to God and Satan. I don't know how you've deluded yourself into thinking that wishing eternal damnation on other people is consistent with Christianity.

 

Aside from that, your way of thinking is dangerous. Not much more to say here than that.

 

Apart from lolol, I agree.

 

lawlol

[JoWie]

whats a liberal?

[Dr Brain]

A liberal is someone who thinks that, after years of throwing money at a problem and seeing the problem get worse, the solution is to throw even more (of other people's) money at the problem.

 

In other words, they are the exact opposite of scientists (people who follow the scientific method). Now, many liberals call themselves scientists, but that's just a delusion on their part. Liberalism has failed every time it's been tried. If they were truly scientists, they'd move on to a different hypothesis and the world would be a better place.

[Bak]

Liberals tend to be more idealistic and conservatives more practical... a little bit of both helps the world go round.

 

Liberalism has failed every time it's been tried.

The countries with the highest standard of living in the world are democratic socialists, which I would hardly consider a failure.

 

if you are a liberal, I know what you are thinking... you are thinking something along the lines of "How dare that ignorant prick say that."

Knowing that others think you're ignorant doesn't make you any less ignorant.

 

Also, it's not perfect but...

 

http://infobeautiful.s3.amazonaws.com/leftright_EU_1416.gif

[»Lynx]

Nice image, Bak.

[Dr Brain]

Those countries all achieved a high standard of living and then moved toward socialism. Not the other way around. To quote someone else: "No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity".

 

I also disagree with several of the generalizations in that picture. I don't think it reflects the views of any single individual I've met. Perhaps if you average the views you might get something like that. But as any statistician will tell you, that can be highly misleading.

[Bak]

Those countries all achieved a high standard of living and then moved toward socialism.

source?

 

I agree the picture does do some over-generalization. Then again, if you want to see over-generalization reread the first post in this topic.

 

The parenting thing is interesting. I'd say my dad's parenting style was fits the conservative side whereas my mom's style is closer to the liberal side. However, my dad was working through most of my childhood so I had much more interaction with my mom and ended up mostly liberal. My dad's mom was a very strong character who I would place solidly on the conservative parenting style (although I never got to talk to her about politics). Both my dad and his brother seem to lean conservative, which matches the prediction. What's your experience?

[LiDDiS]

I'm a communist nazi muslim, so I'm really getting a kick out of this thread.

[»Lynx]

Yes, but ultimately anybody who is 100% left or 100% right is ultimately going to live by a system that does not work. Personally, I believe that my privacy and my civil liberties are the most important things that I have. However, Liberal/Socialist systems don't provide either of these things very well, but ultimately I would consider myself more left than right. I think the picture was pretty good at outlining the broad common differences between the left and right.

[Simulacrum]

The bit about conservative governments not interfering with society or social life is Grade A horseshit, though.

[»D1st0rt]

The biggest problem I have with internet progressives, anyways, is that they seem to have a tendency to say things like,

 

I don't understand how ANYONE with half a brain can be opposed to a single payer healthcare system, it's the only thing that actually makes sense.

 

I don't want to get into another health debate, I'm just using this as an example. Every single competing alternative to a perceived problem has advantages and disadvantages, and if you cannot understand the merits of one idea you are likewise incapable of grasping the detriments of another. In my mind what they are effectively saying is,

 

I'm ignorant, but maybe if I'm condescending enough people won't notice.

 

Also, everyone across the board needs to become more accustomed to working within realistic constraints. Sure, every once in a while we need a couple of geniuses to ignore them and make ridiculous breakthroughs but those people are not you.

[Simulacrum]

As an Internet (and real life) progressive, I know what you're talking about and quite agree. I'm not sure that it's limited to progressives, though; you can find similar reasoning (albeit with more caps and shorter words) over at Free Republic.

[whalz]

if i were in charge of canada, id put 60% of the money towards inventions in different areas , green power would be my first, every residential house / condo/ w/e would be given solar energy and the power grid would be for indulstrial / commercial energy only. the funding would take place to come out with the most effective solar energy device, and the winner being able to name it. (as the funding was free so a cash prize is not nessesary).. benifit : free power for everyone, more money to go around since no one has to pay power, they have a bit more free cash... ie funding for more inventions to benifit humanity.

 

ah thats my perfect govment... the other 40% of the money can go to schools , hospitals, transportation, police, fire, ambulance.... w/e

 

 

so if u really hate govment, why not try putting a platform together and running against it.. rather then telling everyone how much u hate someone..

 

people only use the wheel , cause we cant hover.. we only use the way we think now in govment , cause no one thought of a diffrent way 2 go about it.

[SeVeR]

Ah, so Aileron has finally lost it. To proclaim in his post that he won't be replying suggests he has been on the losing end of too many arguments, and he wants a victory by process of not acknowledging counter-arguments. It's another sad example of a weak-minded individual resigning to failure, but corrupting their mind through denial of that failure. Nevertheless, like another poster said, I am positive he will read this. Why? Because there was no need to say he won't be reading replies. It is his proclamation of victory, and it's purpose is for us to ignore the majority of his post so that when he comes back to read it, there is little sign of opposition.

 

Far from thinking "How dare he", I actually felt pity for Aileron and for the people who are subjected to the consequences of his epiphany. I have heard this "liberal" definition being used far too many times in America for all the people opposed to one's ideas (whether actually liberal or not). There is the radio host, Michael Savage, and that nasty piece of work, Anne Coulter, who spring to mind. I used to listen to Savage all the time when I was in America because he was funny, but it still shocked me how people could be so focussed in their hatred, and so eager to usher people into the focus of that hatred by labeling them liberal.

 

Many people here have said "What is a liberal?" and I applaud that because it might help Aileron realise that he is doing the same thing Savage and Coulter have done, creating a focus for their hatred. This focus precipitates ignorance through the dismissal of possible truths. I for one have dismissed the ideas of Christians in the past because they formed that little black-spot in my head that made me hate them. Now I would give them a chance, I hope Aileron similarly isn't so quick to feed his ignorance.

 

Talking about God and Satan just fits the conservative-Christian cliche that we've all come to recognise. Saying that Satan was a liberal borders on the clinically insane because it suggests such a large warping of thoughts in order to reconcile one's hatred, that I fear we have lost Aileron to any conceivable process of logic.

 

The GFI of solar power on Aileron's list further suggests the same entrenched lack of logic. Aileron has actually justified calling the oil business a better choice than renewable energy. Look Aileron, I don't care half as much about global warming as I care about the progression of humanity, and we need energy to progress, capiche? To justify using oil in this way only shows one thing, that you are a tool for the ideas you support. You support the conservatives, and therefore you try to reconcile and justify, with any argument you can, that which they do. Anyone who disagrees with you has been exaggerated in your mind into this Satanic character, as doing so makes you even more right. Your arguments are weak for this reason, you need to create a great evil in opposition to yourself.

 

Your disenfranchisement with the equality of opinion further suggests an ignorance of logical principle. Of course someone who thinks the world looks like a banana is more wrong than you or I. If you can't figure out why, beyond calling it a horrible liberal conspiracy, then I pity you further. Your opinion on this also suggests that you can't accept the scientific arguments in favour of global warming. Yes, there are idiot-liberals and many idiot-environMENTALISTS, but there are also real arguments that have not been disproven. You won't get anywhere by associating them with your giant liberal/satan/evil pit of hatred.