Sass Posted December 4, 2009 Report Posted December 4, 2009 Its still a 2d game in a 3d world. It's like trying to polish a turd.... ROFL!! Quote
L.C. Posted December 4, 2009 Report Posted December 4, 2009 Yes, but I only wanted to run it for a couple of days to see what kind of improvements you could get with higher bids etc. This won't be a continued project, it's too costly for my own pockets. I only have about $200 spending money a month after paying all my bills & rent. However I will be doing my own donations to the advertising fund if you keep yours open. Yeah, donations are still open. If you could, send me the details of your advertising campaign. I think the more campaigns the better in Facebook. I did some Googling and research on Facebook advertisements, found that most people get a CTR between 0.01 to 0.3 -- higher in few cases. If you have any suggestions, advice or tips -- they would be very much appreciated. Quote
L.C. Posted December 6, 2009 Report Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) See Post #32 for Week 1 Stats (Initial Test):Date Imp. Clicks CTR (%) Avg. CPC ($) Avg. CPM ($) Spent ($) 11/28/2009 3,091 3 0.10 0.35 0.34 1.04 11/27/2009 3,419 2 0.06 0.52 0.30 1.04 11/29/2009 13,562 2 0.01 0.52 0.08 1.04 11/29/2009 28,396 7 0.02 0.57 0.14 4.00 (After increasing budget and bid) 11/30/2009 9,292 6 0.06 0.67 0.43 4.00 12/01/2009 13,663 6 0.04 0.67 0.29 4.00 12/02/2009 10,089 7 0.07 0.57 0.40 4.00 12/05/2009 8,877 7 0.08 0.57 0.45 4.00 12/04/2009 9,806 8 0.08 0.50 0.41 4.00 12/03/2009 13,561 7 0.05 0.57 0.29 4.00 Lifetime 100,194 53 0.05 0.57 0.30 30.08 Lifetime average of 1 click per 2,068.3 impressions. Donations:Date Amount ($) Donor 11/27/2009 4.16 L.C. 11/29/2009 25.00 L.C. 12/05/2009 10.00 L.C. Actions:Date Action 11/29/2009 Increased daily budget to $4.00 from $1.04 11/29/2009 Increased ad bid to $0.75 from $0.52 12/01/2009 Decreased ad bid to $0.70 from $0.75 12/02/2009 Paused advertisement 12/03/2009 Resumed advertisement 12/03/2009 Decreased ad bid to $0.65 from $0.70 12/05/2009 Decreased ad bid to $0.60 from $0.65 Comments: 11/29/2009First three days the advertisement has been maxing out on the daily budget. Let us see what happens if I quadruple the daily budget. Facebook recommended a bidding range between $0.58 and $0.77. 11/30/2009In just 3,000 impressions, we received 2 clicks. Average of 1 click per 3019.1 impressions. 11/30/2009In just 9,000 impressions, we received 6 clicks (maxing out on budget). Average of 1 click per 2086.267857 impressions. 12/01/2009In just 700 impressions, we received 2 clicks. Week 1 begins tomorrow. Donations very much appreciated. Create your own advertisements at http://www.facebook.com/ads/create/, take a screenshot of 1. Design Your Ad and 2. Targeting, and send it to admin@hlrse.net or private message it to me (be sure to include attachment of your advertisement image if you have one). The more advertisements for one campaign, the better! Donations Paypal: subspace@hlrse.net or subspace@bluetoast.org (specify your name in the PayPal message if you do not want to appear as "Anonymous" in the donor list) SSFacebook_Ad.xlsx Edited December 6, 2009 by L.C. Quote
krslynx Posted December 6, 2009 Report Posted December 6, 2009 Why are people associating clicks with more players? Perhaps it'd be better to get some statistics from http://getcontinuum.com, then compare the downloads of the client to clicks - you'll then be able to find your loss etc. I believe Trained done this before, it makes far more sense. Quote
»jabjabjab Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Posted December 6, 2009 lol said the same thing Quote
L.C. Posted December 6, 2009 Report Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) WEEK 1 INFORMATION Stats (Week 1):Date Imp. Clicks CTR (%) Avg. CPC ($) Avg. CPM ($) Spent ($) 12/6/2009 18,050 6 0.03 0.6 0.2 3.57 12/7/2009 18,440 2 0.01 1.79 0.19 3.57 12/8/2009 18,277 6 0.03 0.60 0.20 3.57 12/9/2009 18,266 5 0.03 0.71 0.20 3.57 12/10/2009 17,813 7 0.04 0.51 0.20 3.57 12/11/2009 4,763 1 0.02 0.94 0.20 0.94 Week 1 95,609 27 0.028 0.0267 0.8583 18.79 Lifetime 209,365 82 0.039 0.6663 0.2700 49.91 Week 1 daily budget calculated to $3.57.*Week 1 average of 1 click per 3,541.1 impressions.**Lifetime average of 1 click per 2,553.2 impressions.* Taking all donations this week and dividing by 7.** The more important question here is how many people of these clicks actually download the game client. Donations:Date Week Amount ($) Donor 11/27/2009 4.16 L.C. 11/29/2009 25.00 L.C. 12/05/2009 1 10.00 L.C. 12/06/2009 1 15.00 PoLiX Actions (Week 1):Date Action 12/06/2009 Set daily budget to $3.57 from $4.00 by spreading out funds to 7 days 12/06/2009 Set ad bid to $0.50 from $0.60 by averaging the recommended bid range 12/06/2009 Set ad type to CPM/PPI for cost effectiveness 12/06/2009 Set ad bid to $0.26 from $0.50 12/11/2009 Halted Facebook advertising; working to switch to Google AdWords Resources and Thoughts: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=34170993416&topic=5341Most posts seem to indicate that CPM/PPI is cheaper than CPC/PPCA lot of negativity towards Facebook advertising, perhaps we can try Google AdWords next week to see the statistical differences?[*]http://blog.auinteractive.com/facebook-ads-dont-work-heres-proofSays that Facebook Advertising simply doesn't work[*]http://www.challengedividend.com/the_challenge_dividend/2008/04/facebook-ads-do.htmlSays that Facebook Advertising simply doesn't work[*]http://go-digital.net/blog/2009/05/notes-from-the-front-lines-facebook-advertising-metrics-and-benchmarks/[*]http://www.jonathanvolk.com/ppc/best-facebook-ctr-you-have-seen.html Donations very much appreciated. Create your own advertisements at http://www.facebook.com/ads/create/, take a screenshot of 1. Design Your Ad and 2. Targeting, and send it to admin@hlrse.net or private message it to me (be sure to include attachment of your advertisement image if you have one). The more advertisements for one campaign, the better! Donations Paypal: subspace@hlrse.net or subspace@bluetoast.org (specify your name in the PayPal message if you do not want to appear as "Anonymous" in the donor list) SSFacebook_Ad.xlsx Edited December 11, 2009 by L.C. Quote
L.C. Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) Seems like Facebook throttles advertisements to a CTR of 0.05%. Next week I will experiment with Google AdWords. Edited December 8, 2009 by L.C. Quote
L.C. Posted December 11, 2009 Report Posted December 11, 2009 Halted the Facebook advertising today. Will updated statistics when I get home. Going to start Google Advertisements today (hopefully) for a two or three day preliminary test. Quote
Trained Posted December 12, 2009 Report Posted December 12, 2009 I did do this. Whoever is running the linked site needs to setup a click counter, so you can actually see how many people are going through with actually downloading the game. Each click may be a visit, but that doesn't mean theyre trying the game. I noticed after a while, that there was no way I could actually tell what was going on, so I grabbed a pretty nice script from hotscripts.com (lazy) and set it up on the old get-continuum.com site (which godaddy took from me ). Even with multiple mirrors you can see whos clicking on what, very useful Quote
PoLiX Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 Well, I know I can track that on SSO/SSF, so I'm sure GetContinuum can see it saying they use atleast 1 of cpanel's included stats programs. Quote
L.C. Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 get-continuum.com site (which godaddy took from me ).Why? :? Quote
Trained Posted December 14, 2009 Report Posted December 14, 2009 Cause im poor and out of work, and couldnt foot the bill Quote
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