Havoc_777 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Posted December 2, 2009 can u make the times a little better for us euros plz? Quote
ipwn Posted December 4, 2009 Report Posted December 4, 2009 What times would be reasonable for you? Quote
Acer Posted December 5, 2009 Report Posted December 5, 2009 I like how this topic was made but no one's using it. Quote
Unix Posted December 6, 2009 Report Posted December 6, 2009 When exactly will live draft be done so us captains can plan ahead? O_o Quote
BZAP Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Will refs impose any item restrictions or will the case be "everything goes" ? Quote
Unix Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Dunno what if anything can be done since it might need some kind of module, and if we wait for the module it might take a few months for that... Would rather have the specials, but you just cant buy or green anymore specials than what you bring in. Quote
omni Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 You don't need modules lol. Just say "You cant use specials." Make up a penalty or something. Quote
ipwn Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Someone is bound to use a special on "accident" and the ref will not be spectating that area at the time Quote
omni Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 This is stupid. More specials = win. How would it be a duel league if people spam reps, bursts, and thors? Quote
ipwn Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) spam back... Obviously we're trying to get as close to a duel league without going out of our way for HS dev to have to code a new module. Edited December 8, 2009 by ipwn Quote
Dr Brain Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 Repels, bursts and thors are available to practically all participants. Players can choose to play without them, but that is their choice. If the cost of a few special items is beyond your means, omni, then I'm sure we could look into starting a repel charity fund. Quote
kid Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 While your sentiment is appreciated, dr brain, I think the purpose of omni's remark is to prevent a team from devising a plan involving 3 thor javs from "laming," as the kids call it. Quote
ipwn Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 I completely understand that items can be abused however there is always a countermeasure provided cloak/stealth vs x-radar.... 3 thor vs repel..... While this can be described as lame and annoying please keep in mind that we are trying to make this league as optimal as possible while still making it feasible (for example HSFL which has taken years). Please consider the use of items to be a part of strategy to promote team play. Captains should work with their teams which are invulnerable to strategies such as triple thor etc. We hope that this will promote better team play and strategy. Quote
omni Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 The focus shifts from dueling to item usage, which is pretty much basing. What's the point of this "duel" league again? To truly promote team play, the league should make the players focus on their playing strategy and teamwork rather than just having the right combination of items. Depending on the map (which I'm willing to bet will be just the pub map since everyone is too lazy to make a new one just for league), laming will be very common. For example, running into the mini base hole and bursting like hell. Team play has always been about protecting your teammates and finishing off kills. Not about "Ok you get thors, you get reps, and you get ports." Quote
Unix Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 If you get hit by trip thors enough to die 5x from four people, you deserve to be eliminated Btw, you're only allowed to carry seven thors at most, so trip thorring would only be able to be done twice by a single player at most. Repels arent that huge of a problem, it's kinda like an extra life, and if all players have them is it really that big of an issue? Let's not forget, you can use reps to stop runners too if you are in the right position. Stealth (not cloak since WB/Jav cant get them) isnt an issue really, mainly because of xradar and stealth isnt "that" big of an advantage. Not like you can green your specials back either and if you cant buy them back either, is it really that big of a deal? You have 10 mins to eliminate a team and there's nothing saying you have to eliminate them either. Quote
omni Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 Trust me, thors will be too overpowered. It will be nearly impossible to run after your nrg hits below 500. They just chuck a thor in your general direction and you're dead. It no longer depends on the skill of running or finishing kills, just thor them right? Quote
ipwn Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 When your energy is below 500 thats when your team reps or takes a hit for you. Team play will be important especially when items are used. Quote
Dr Brain Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 Complaining about it won't make any difference in how the match runs. Your best bet is to figure out how to counter people using items, and how to use items to your advantage. It's not like you don't have access to thors too. Don't forget, though, that there will be no restocking during play, so a lot of "lame" tactics used during basing will be more difficult to perform. I also assume players will be locked into a single ship during each half, though I haven't checked that with ipwn. Quote
vetta64 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 Im 2 days past ded line, but the draft hasnt started yet, can I get in pls? Name: adonibytecapt: noref: no pls pls pls Quote
kid Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 i agree with everything omni has said thus far. Quote
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