SubSpace Online

[larrythehamster]

Every time I open a page the page style flickers. (No css, then half a second later css is applied). Perhaps wrong cache headers?

 

Yeah doing that for me to.

 

Usability and content and also content weighting is a big issue for me with the site at the moment, I'll try to talk to you on MSN when I can Polix, remind me again what times (BST/GMT) you're on?

[PoLiX]

No cache headers set. But going to play with its internal cache system and see what I can't manipulate.

[General Shadow]

Bottom line...What is SubSpace Online?

[PoLiX]

Replacement of SSCentral.

 

Back in the day, we had a website at SubSpace.Net. It was news, general activities, entertainment, updates, downloads, etc. Most all the veteran players visited it daily, sometimes more, and most players visited atleast once a week. They always had news of what was going on, entertaining stuff to read, articles, etc. etc. I'm trying to bring that back to this community again, as for far too many years we have gone without it.

 

I use to keep SSCentral well updated, and for a while, it served as a back up to SSNet, and then eventually replaced it for a short time when its hosting was having some dilemas. Then when I handed SSCentral to swift, he ended up going off to the army, and the site kind of sat static, eventually being replaced by a static website.

 

Well, rather than try to bring something back, I decided to start a new site. I ran the url by a few people, and got their ok, and quite a few people have been excited by the basic design of the site.

 

In time I will continue updating it, adding sections, etc. But I am moving into a house soon, so am trying to get atleast a general face to the site setup, and get it running pretty well. In time it will have all sorts of information, sections, and be very easy to navigate and find what you want.

 

For now, give input, ideas, etc. I rarely shoot them down as I always joke, I am one of the last left from a generation in this game who believed we are nothing without our players, nothing without our members, and nothing without each other. Player ran, and Player used.

[JoWie]

When I look at the end result of html on a page there are elements in the body section. Maybe this is causing the flickering

 

This is caused by nav.js:

nav.js is loaded in the

and does the following:

 

document.writeln('<style type="text/css">');
...
document.writeln('</style>');
...
document.writeln('<div id="main">');
...

 

This is invalid because the

can not have any

. So the browser (firefox 3.5) tries to solve it by closing the .

So everything after <script src="nav.js"> is outside the head!

 

 

There are three ways to solve this.

First is to break up the nav.js in two files. But this would require a change in all the sites which have nav.js

Second would be to get rid of the

Third would be to not use document.write but document.createElement. The best time to do this is at the DOMContentLoaded event (not the load event, this fires after image load). (be careful writing the

This is what I always use for the DOMContentLoaded event:

 

 

	(function () { // protect our scope
	
	var DOMContentLoaded_eventFired = false;
	var DOMContentLoaded_events = [];
	var DOMContentLoaded_evt = function(e)
	{
		var a, len;
		if (DOMContentLoaded_eventFired || !DOMContentLoaded_events) return;
		DOMContentLoaded_eventFired = true;
		
		len = DOMContentLoaded_events.length;
		 
		for (a = 0; a < len; a++)
		{
			DOMContentLoaded_events[a]();
		}
		DOMContentLoaded_events = [];	
	};
	
	
	window.addDOMLoadEvent = function(listener)
	{
		if (DOMContentLoaded_eventFired)
			setTimeout(listener, 0); //defer it (like an event)
		
		if (!DOMContentLoaded_events)
			DOMContentLoaded_events = [];
			
		DOMContentLoaded_events.push(listener);
	}
	
	if (window.addEventListener)
	{
		window.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', DOMContentLoaded_evt, false);
		window.addEventListener('load', DOMContentLoaded_evt, false);
	}
	else if (window.attachEvent)
	{
		window.attachEvent('onload', DOMContentLoaded_evt);
	}
	
	/*@cc_on
	(function(){ // Stolen from jquery
		if (DOMContentLoaded_eventFired) return;
		try {
			// If IE is used, use the trick by Diego Perini
			// http://javascript.nwbox.com/IEContentLoaded/
			document.documentElement.doScroll("left");
		} catch (error) {
			setTimeout( arguments.callee, 4);
			return;
		}
		
		DOMContentLoaded_evt();
	})();
	@*/
	})();
	
	addDOMLoadEvent(function()
	{
		alert('loaded!');
	} );

 

 

 

Site looks great. Perhaps it would be a good idea to give each zone 1 page for a short description, screenshots, link to webpage etc

Edited September 7, 2009 by JoWie

[PoLiX]

Only thing that makes me slightly doubt the navbar causing it, is ssforum has no issues with it and it is loaded in the same spot.

 

I'll remove it, and you guys can visit it and see if it is causing it. But I might have another idea causing it also. But we'll try the navbar 1st.

[PoLiX]

fixed it now. The navbar still technically needs fixed. But I had the css files as media=all. That was only thing diff between ipb and sso. Changed to screen, and all is fine now. Will focus on updating the navbar css stuff later.

[JoWie]

it's gone now

[Hakaku]

bump

 

why is it restricted?

[PoLiX]

looks fine to me?

 

NVM, I see the issue.

 

fixed

[PoLiX]

Banner gradient issues fixed, and tweaked DCME's banner a bit more.

 

About DCME and Advertisements only 2 pages left.

 

Billing Site is sliced up, and support script for bang updated and billing is now up. ( http://bang.subspaceonline.com/ | http://billing.subspaceonline.com/ ) SSC Net-Ban text updated with new url, and old url redirecting. Also have created a standard policy for name/squad stuff: http://billing.subspaceonline.com/#policy :which was oked and agreed upon by Ghost Ship, Mom, and myself.

 

Need to add more to Files and Technical FAQ in time, and get News Script fully operating.

 

After all that, next will be getting a new zoner going.

 

Thoughts? Ideas? Opinions?

[PoLiX]

Starting to feel like I should assume noone cares bout this or having a central site anymore, and should stop working on it and turn it into a static website.

 

Was expecting more people to step up willing to help with sections of the site, but nothing really.

 

I'm going to be very busy in coming weeks, and may not even have internet for a few days with moving into my house and all. I'm not going to let the site continue sitting partially finished, but my free time has been limited lately by preparing and paperwork and other crap.

 

So if you are willing to help with any of the following, lemme know: 20 Questions, "Zoner" Comics, Tech FAQ, Getting More Downloads Setup, Developing more "Entertainment" Content, or Posting News. I have had 2 people ask bout it, but I don't honestly know anything about them, and wouldn't trust them yet with anything more than posting news. Seeing as the scripting is on hold thanks to a nice update IPB is doing to the cms, only myself and site editors will be able to post for a few weeks.

 

So lemme know if you are willing to help.

 

Edit: oh, and I show some people at work, and a friend of mine show some of his friends, and they grasped the basic idea and content of the game from the site, and thought it was a very nice site. I told them I want to build on it, and the main suggestion was in the Tech FAQ and maybe giving more reason to revisit the site (IE: News and Entertainment). Seeing as this was from people who had never seen nor played our game before, and this is what they'd want to see on a site for the game if they did start playing; I'm taking their opinions to heart.

[Samapico]

About the Tech FAQ... should it include Dev-related FAQs too? i.e. How do I make my own server, How do I change ship graphics, How do I make LVZ files, etc. Maybe it should be ASSS-oriented for the next generation of developers

 

 

As for the news, it would be nice if each zone had someone to post stuff about upcoming events, or results of events, or whatever. It would be easy publicity for zones, and could generate a good amount of stuff to read

 

Could it also be possible to show the news somewhere on the forum home page or something? Like a subforum where they'd appear as topics just so we can see the last news item; might make more people check it out. This just depends on how the news are set up, maybe it's impossible I don't know

 

Just some ideas

[PoLiX]

Well, Cre mentioned the zone thing to me, and it could easily be done.

 

As for latest news, I could probably create a mod/addon for a global message for latest news topic to show on SSForum under the nav area (SubSpace Online Forums Memebers Etc.).

 

Edit: or hell, I could add a small news ticker to the ss navigation bar.

[»jabjabjab]

well, I have been trying to get to you on the front-end news launcher that adam coded and I did the gfx for.