Asteroid Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Okay, Hello devastation as you know Devastation has recently became very dead.I think it is appropriate to make some changes.I have a list of suggestions. .2 bases.Smaller map.Less flags.200 flag time.New events.New tiles.An actually Dev team.Advertisement.Moderators.ASSS Regions in use I think there are some changes to be done,Lets cut the bullshit when was the last time you individually invited your friends from other zones to play?Current moderators are not very active the only one ive seen actually try and get players is tm_master , Mage+ and Hakaku... What happen to gibbit? Syrus? Bossboy? Laserman? they all left due to inactivity. Devastation needs change. Quote
Hakaku Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Hey Asteroid! Thanks for the feedback, it's hard to come by lately I'll agree with you on a number of points, especially how the map is a bit too big for a zone with a smaller population. However, the hitch is that we've tried several maps and I reduced the bases all the way down to 3, but it failed to make any effect on population. Seems the current map has actually had the opposite affect and gotten people to play a bit more, but I'll still keep that in mind for the next one (though remember, !buy basewarp # exists for a reason ). It's also hard to come by anyone who will help develop the zone (map, tiles, programming, moderating); everything's on my shoulders, so I'm going bit by bit to restore and improve Deva. What kind of events did you have in mind? What did you have in mind for ASSS regions? Though Laserman plays, he's probably one of the most active players in Deva (mage+ on the other hand rarely played at all, and hasn't played in Deva for something like 9 months now). Syrus, Gibbit, XDOOM, Bossboy, and others gradually left subspace for real-life reasons (marriage, uni/college, work, moving, etc). Sucks, but not much you can do about it :/ Anyhow, keep the ideas rollin'! Quote
Asteroid Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Posted July 17, 2009 Thanks for the reply, First off i don't think it's the map, i think it's the bases we need NEW bases old ones. the old bases are just old memories. We need players that can commit to making at least one base a week (if not more). Devastation has a multicolor tile-set i like hat but we don't need to use it every time it gets tiring. perhaps we could try an ICE Style, like we did back in 2000? I remember 7he demand had some cool tilesets. maybe call Thunderjam and ask him to make us a nicer tile set. There are a number of events i have in mind. though i could never bring my self to learn python (hehe) Maybe you could contact XDOOM for some python codes? I am sure he would help make ASSS Regions.RacesBases There has been some chit chat with (me) tm_master and mage+ that we would make an arena based on Baseduel in EG. we would need a bot/ship sets and of course commitment. and maybe set up a LADDER with lvz in game.1. Playername / Wins / Loses.2.3.4.5. Person on top of every month gets a prize maybe credits? Could i get a list of the current moderators?Ps. Asteroid is not my username. Quote
Hakaku Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Heh, you're like the second person to bring up the ice-style, which pretty much predates when Deva went SSC. I'm not sure anyone has a map or tileset from that far back. Though atm, the current map doesn't use any old bases. I'll give the new tileset idea some thought. As for Python, XDOOM doesn't code that stuff He codes C# (for the bot), while I do C. We have a few races (?go race a, race b, race c...), some mazes (maze a, b...), and other events (elim, conquer, zombies, killrace, juggernaught...) that can be hosted in different arenas. Unfortunately these are all bot-side at the moment, which is really cumbersome because I'm the only one able to host the bot, so I've been slowly trying to make these server-side. And funny you mention baseduel, since I first brought up the idea to laserman, who then told tm_master about it. I think it's definitely a great idea, and I'll see to it (but don't expect anything right-away, I still need/gotta come up with a map, then design the code). Tm_master as always, still handles staff in the zone. I'm currently at work so I can't get you a detailed list, but here's a rough outline: Zone Host:Snrrrub Zone sysops:XDOOM (+bot)tm_master (+staff)Hakaku (+asss) Smod & website:T-Man Moderators:AnnaGibbitSri-I'm forgetting some- Bot ops:-Quite a few ppl- (ps, I know your name isn't Asteroid, but you chose that as a forum name ) Quote
Asteroid Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Posted July 17, 2009 Well, I remember seeing a Baseduel arena in someones private, though I do not remember who. it may have been mage+ and tm_master. Ps who are your mappers? surly theres someone other than you that maps. btw. i was talking about my game alias Quote
Hakaku Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 lol it was laserman's, but he literally just ripped off EG's map for the kicks of it. Mappers pretty much come and go, so there isn't really any one person. The current map was designed by NR (aka No_Remorse), before that I was the one designing maps & lvz, and before that there were a few made by Mage+. Beyond that it was pretty much all XDOOM, one by JDS, another by No_Remorse, and possibly one or a few by SOS in the very beginning of Deva's revival (2005-2006). Exceptions include holiday maps, where everyone used to pitch in. (and yeah, typo) Quote
Asteroid Posted July 18, 2009 Author Report Posted July 18, 2009 Okay, how about we contact these guys, it's always great to get email details.further more... I would be happy to make some bases, I am not sure how they will turn out could you possible post a map with all the bases? and possible the map No remorse showed me with all those advertisements and such I thought that was one of the best maps Deva has created. PS. I will try and start playing again in 13-14 days. i have had some recent family issues i would like to take care of. Quote
Asteroid Posted July 18, 2009 Author Report Posted July 18, 2009 (edited) This is my Base, Tell me how you like it. thanksAsteroid-base.lvl Edited July 18, 2009 by Asteroid Quote
whalz Posted July 18, 2009 Report Posted July 18, 2009 (edited) updated base, not actualy called slime base, thats jus the file name SLIMEbase.lvl Edited July 18, 2009 by Whal the 2nd Quote
Asteroid Posted July 18, 2009 Author Report Posted July 18, 2009 updated base, not actually called slime base, that's just the file name I think this base is quite good, though it is a little crammed in some places. Very nice work, perhaps we should make a Dev team for Devastation.? certainly Hakaku could setup a private server with BlueT or SSA, preferably Bluet since ASSS would be a hard way to fix add/change maps/settings/tiles. Quote
whalz Posted July 18, 2009 Report Posted July 18, 2009 i am the dev team T_T, it was pretty cramped in the base, but i wus going to see how it would effect game play Quote
Asteroid Posted July 18, 2009 Author Report Posted July 18, 2009 guessing by the style of your base, id say you are JDS? Jds forum name is banned so is this why you made a new name? You are the Dev team?How do people become one.How often are you on deva? -Asteroid Quote
Hakaku Posted July 18, 2009 Report Posted July 18, 2009 further more... I would be happy to make some bases, I am not sure how they will turn out could you possible post a map with all the bases? and possible the map No remorse showed me with all those advertisements and such I thought that was one of the best maps Deva has created.Just use your best judgement. When it comes to bases, all you gotta worry about is not making the corridors too small, because this makes it difficult to maneuver around. You can find some bases posted up here. But your base turned out quite nicely. As for setting up a private dev server, there's no need. If you want to test out maps and bases, I can easily set you up with a private arena. Uploading and changing stuff is really quite simple, and not much different from subgame at all. Quote
whalz Posted July 18, 2009 Report Posted July 18, 2009 well im not the dev team really anymore but i did make quite a few maps for deva, only one i really like tho is ?go dew Quote
Asteroid Posted July 19, 2009 Author Report Posted July 19, 2009 Hey, don't add it quite yet theirs a spot i need to fix, BTW thanks for the comment.I will play soon guys I just cant get on continuum for some reason. Quote
Asteroid Posted July 19, 2009 Author Report Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) Heh i made another top base.Asteroid-base.lvl Edited July 19, 2009 by Asteroid Quote
No_Remorse Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 I'll agree with you on a number of points, especially how the map is a bit too big for a zone with a smaller population. However, the hitch is that we've tried several maps and I reduced the bases all the way down to 3, but it failed to make any effect on population. Seems the current map has actually had the opposite affect and gotten people to play a bit more, but I'll still keep that in mind for the next one (though remember, !buy basewarp # exists for a reason ). Sweet! I'm glad my map got some people playing again! I actually have a revised version I'll work on getting to you Hakaku, one that allows for bigger bases to be added. I'll upload that asap. I'll have to work on getting Subspace installed so that when I'm drunk out of my tree at night I'll have something to do I'm just incredibly busy lately -- 6 day work weeks, random sexing, and drunken belligerence have taken up most of my time unfortunately or not lol. It's good to see this forum alive and kicking though, as well as Deva. Quote
Asteroid Posted July 20, 2009 Author Report Posted July 20, 2009 hehe NR Your awesome, but i think your map is a little messy to much booya you know? Quote
No_Remorse Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 Messy is good or it wouldn't be devastationy enough. Symmetrical is boring. Quote
whalz Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 definetly, i never could make zone maps like yours no remorse, your like one of those fighters who is better when they drunk, except your skillz is mapping.. fighting too, who knows who cares mine were always to intricate to make to such a massive scale, while your style is like, sexy, quick and sexy Quote
No_Remorse Posted July 22, 2009 Report Posted July 22, 2009 lol thanks. except all this talk about sexy quick and intricate is startin to turn me on Quote
whalz Posted July 26, 2009 Report Posted July 26, 2009 was stoned, but am serious we shud go out Quote
»Lynx Posted July 26, 2009 Report Posted July 26, 2009 I've only skim-read this thread. I'll map for you if you give me an idea of what you'd like (i.e. I'll cover anything you need - borders, base style, goals etc) however I don't really have the time for monotonous tile-sets. Message me if you're in need of assistance. Quote
whalz Posted July 26, 2009 Report Posted July 26, 2009 unless u play deva, its pretty hard to map for deva Quote
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