ArcticxWolf Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 I'm leaning towards Doc said because that line really didn't make sense... because it DOES matter if the staff is corrupt or not. Since plenty of staff have been removed for various things that count as corruption. If it wasn't obvious, harsh words isn't an abuse of power. Well, if that was true, then you may as well remove half the staff. Quote
Dr Brain Posted June 27, 2009 Report Posted June 27, 2009 Methinks you don't know what corruption means. Quote
ArcticxWolf Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) Methinks you don't know what corruption means.Is that a statement subtly hinting that mods have never abused before? Edited June 28, 2009 by ArcticxWolf Quote
Kilo Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 Wasn't your original statement subtly implying that I was corrupt? Quote
ArcticxWolf Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 Wasn't your original statement subtly implying that I was corrupt?Well, I suppose I said something wrong there by saying all staff is corrupt, but what I meant was, some staff was corrupt, so sorry bout that. Quote
Lunatic High Posted July 6, 2009 Report Posted July 6, 2009 christ....i just wasted 15 minutes reading all this crap x_x Quote
Gar Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 Yes, the mods in Hyperspace have always been one of its biggest problems. I've always been of the opinion that if Dr Brain really doesn't give a flying crap about the zone like he says, he should hand it off to someone who will actually take care of it. He and the rest of the mod staff need to face certain realities - which they won't, because those realities make their callous attitude inexcusable. It's cognitive dissonance. They don't want to face the truth. YES, ABRASIVE MODS ARE A BAD THING. YES, ABUSIVE MODS ARE A BAD THING. YES, ARNK HAS BEEN A DOUCHEBAG FOR AWHILE. I actually came up against this myself. Something happened to Arnk IRL that filled him with anger and made him quick to start crap with people. I noticed because I used to talk to Arnk sometimes, and he responded like a normal human being. He was actually an interesting and nice person. Then, after a few months gone, I came back, and noticed that there were several new engines that did nothing interesting and were generally underpowered or pointless. I said, 'wtf is with all the useless new engines?' after which Arnk erupted on me in a positively Vesuvian fashion. He completely ignored what I was actually saying, instead willfully believing that I was somehow insulting him. He was cursing, screaming, personally insulting me, and generally acting insane. My experience almost exactly mirrored the one posted by the OP in this thread. It's one of the major reasons I haven't come back to Hyperspace, his kind of insane reversal in personality and his aggressive attack of literally anyone that questions even the slightest thing in the zone. Now some of you may ROFL and LOL and say GOOD RIDDANCE because you don't like me or because you're all mostly pieces of shit, but you should at least recognize that Arnk has become unbalanced, and something needs to be done about him. Maybe exile him for awhile, let him cool off. Using Hyperspace as his place to explode on people without consequences is a pretty bad idea from everyone's point of view. Quote
Kilo Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 when u go lookin for trouble u shouldn't be surprised what u find y troll, edison/tesla/dual core r gr8 y qq Quote
»Purge Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 ...Or Arnk stays on the internet too long. Quote
Dr Brain Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 I've always been of the opinion that if Dr Brain really doesn't give a flying crap about the zone like he saysWhen have I said this? I wouldn't, since I do care about the zone. Using Hyperspace as his place to explode on people without consequences is a pretty bad idea from everyone's point of view. Introspection much? Quote
Kilo Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 i think he meant that you don't say that you don't care about it, you say you care about it but you don't but anyway to elaborate on my previous post: everyone knows that gar is just a troll that goes around harassing people. however sometimes he acts like a normal person and isn't trying to pick a fight. but that is something of a rarity, he cited this in his own freaking post how he addressed someone in a hostile, provocative, and undiplomatic fashion... figured I'd just respond to that in suit really, nothing more needs to be said bottom line of this thread (for second or third time): i don't hinder your gameplay, if you won't play the zone because you don't get along with one person it's your own prerogative to stop playing just as it's your prerogative to troll. the only person with personal problems irl is the one coming onto e-games expecting the e-staff to do what that one wants. let's keep the posts coming eh it's almost been a month over some e-text Quote
Gar Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 Don't be ridiculous. Asking 'wtf is with all the useless new engines' in pub chat is an invitation for discussion, not a personal attack on anyone. You chose to warp reality and turn it into a personal attack on you. You did the same thing to the OP of this thread. Yes, mods are held to higher standards throughout the entire Internet. Yes, you are expected to be courteous. If you can't manage that, then you're expected to be silent. Mods directly contribute to the atmosphere and thus the longevity of a game community. What more proof do you need than people quitting because of you? You go ahead and bitterly tell us all to 'toughen up buttercup' as we leave, right up until nobody but angry, aggressive, and obnoxious players like you are left. Oh wait... lol... Quote
Kilo Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 (you did it in pm, not pub chat, but ok) Like I said, it's your prerogative. I don't know what internets you visit, but in the domains of common sense, mods are held to the same standards as everyone else when it comes to interacting with people, the higher standards are only regarding the authority they've been given. I don't care if people that stir up trouble don't like how I deal with them. I don't care if people that whine over things I do don't like me brushing them off as irrelevant. I wouldn't expect anyone in my position, or any of the other staff in Hyperspace, or in any other zone, or in any other community, to treat me with respect if I was rude to them. Whatever you might expect, it doesn't change how things are here. Don't delude yourself into thinking your statement was anything less than inflammatory, especially given your own history of stirring up trouble. If it was not your intention then you could have either made it more clear after the initial reaction, but you declined to. erupted on me in a positively Vesuvian fashion. He completely ignored what I was actually saying, instead willfully believing that I was somehow insulting him. He was cursing, screaming, personally insulting me, and generally acting insane. My experience almost exactly mirrored the one posted by the OP in this thread.Since it almost exactly mirrored the OP's experience, let's remember that the OP was the one cursing, insulting, erupting, not the other way around. In that case, I guess I can see why you made the comparison, since you are the one making posts (with allcaps, no less!) over something that was said to you. Troll moar. Quote
Gar Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 Classic example of exactly what people are talking about when they bring up Arnk's ridiculous behavior. Nobody was being rude to you in my case or the OP's case... YOU came out of the woodwork and started with the inexplicable attacks. My 'wtf is with all the useless new engines' was first in pubchat and then a question to you once you responded. I spent the next half an hour calmly explaining myself to you as you insulted, wheedled, and basically thought you were being a badass and totally 'putting down a troll' - when you were actually just blowing everything out of proportion and twisting reality. Pretty much what you're doing now, actually. Quote
Kilo Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 I'm participating in a discussion, don't really know how I'm blowing anything out of proportion here. Might want to step back a bit because regardless of what happened or didn't happen before, you are now the one coming out of the woodwork with unprovoked attacks. Quote
Requiem. Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) Methinks you don't know what corruption means.Is that a statement subtly hinting that mods have never abused before?Methinks doc doesn't watch his zone carefully....What counts as corruption to you, doc?From what i've seen, quite a few mods would be OUT if it's the definition of corruption we're going for. And as for the Gar vs Arnk thing.I agree with Gar on this Arnk. You DO act like everytime someone logs in and says "wtf nerf" that it is an aimed directly at you. I also agree that mods and devs represent their zone and should remain conducted in normal behavior.I agree with arnk however, if you are being explicity rude to a mod/dev. Chances are they won't be golden to you. It's reciprocity and remains the number one golden rule in the world. Arnk,You do not have to act like a little three year old towards everyone just because you get all pissy about a post or sentence they write.Taken back to the arguement we had over the forums. When it ended you kept trying to get it to come back again.That showed serious insecurity and the immaturity not usually associated with moderators and developers, especially of a zone that is essentually unique and needs people to come and see it. Now, I am not implying that you are immature or insecure, just a moment of it. I actually have quite a bit of respect for what you do for this zone and the time you put into it. I would just like to point out that you CAN act like a comment posted is aimed directly at you and you DO tend to warp it into a huge arguement. Russky, quiting proves nothing, in my opinion, if you wanted to spite someone. Stay online and just ignore them. You give them to much satisfaction in knowing they made you quit. Edited July 8, 2009 by Requiem. Quote
Dr Brain Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 If you have a problem with a specific mod, you should take it up with Rare, D1, and myself (in that order). Otherwise, you need to quit making baseless accusations. lol at the hate arnk replies. Perhaps you don't realize that everything you've said applies to yourself more than arnk, since arnk is specifically looking to bring out the hypocrite in you? Take a dose of your own medicine. Quote
Requiem. Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) Hypocrite I must be to be reading such a childish post from a server owner. Edited July 8, 2009 by Requiem. Quote
Kilo Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) Whether or not something is aimed at me, doesn't change whether it is a) wrong b ) dumb c) whining. I didn't realize things said in a public chat weren't open for anyone to respond to People then take my response as a personal attack and then make it personal with me too. I don't think you watch very closely what goes on in any case, only occasionally do I "act like a three year old" (in this internet game,) substantially less often than the average. Edited July 8, 2009 by Kilo Quote
Requiem. Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 Arnk, This post will probably come as a surprise to you, because I know you're expecting me to continue the arguement as I have always done.However, after talking to a few people and to myself, I decided to apologize to you.I would like to apologize for the past Year /Year 1/2 for the way I have talked to you.It was absolutely stupid of me to think that you were being serious, and through that I have wronged you.In this forum, I have wronged you, by stepping in and saying stupid things towards you.Hell, I should thank you for not "attacking" back and simply posting what you did.In the game, I have wronged you. By simply making crude and malicious comments towards you, as well as others within your work line.I'm such an idiot, Arnk. I do not know everything, and it doesn't matter whether either of us is wrong, But I do know that I owe you my apologies, as well as a promise that I shall stop. I'm sorry, Arnk. -Requiem. Quote
omni Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 Arnk, This post will probably come as a surprise to you, because I know you're expecting me to continue the arguement as I have always done.However, after talking to a few people and to myself, I decided to apologize to you.I would like to apologize for the past Year /Year 1/2 for the way I have talked to you.It was absolutely stupid of me to think that you were being serious, and through that I have wronged you.In this forum, I have wronged you, by stepping in and saying stupid things towards you.Hell, I should thank you for not "attacking" back and simply posting what you did.In the game, I have wronged you. By simply making crude and malicious comments towards you, as well as others within your work line.I'm such an idiot, Arnk. I do not know everything, and it doesn't matter whether either of us is wrong, But I do know that I owe you my apologies, as well as a promise that I shall stop. I'm sorry, Arnk. -Requiem. Pussy. Arnk is a dick Quote
kid Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 Arnk, This post will probably come as a surprise to you, because I know you're expecting me to continue the arguement as I have always done.However, after talking to a few people and to myself, I decided to apologize to you.I would like to apologize for the past Year /Year 1/2 for the way I have talked to you.It was absolutely stupid of me to think that you were being serious, and through that I have wronged you.In this forum, I have wronged you, by stepping in and saying stupid things towards you.Hell, I should thank you for not "attacking" back and simply posting what you did.In the game, I have wronged you. By simply making crude and malicious comments towards you, as well as others within your work line.I'm such an idiot, Arnk. I do not know everything, and it doesn't matter whether either of us is wrong, But I do know that I owe you my apologies, as well as a promise that I shall stop. I'm sorry, Arnk. -Requiem.I was willing to overlook the fact that you stole intellectual property from bash.org and qdb (read: posted quotes from a quotes database on ssqdb.org as his own), but this is too much. Not only are you a bandwagonist, you're an idiot. That being said, this is the worst attempt at introspection I've seen in a long time. I will agree that Arnk and Doc are right in saying that it is not necessary for mods to be your friend, but I will disagree wholly in their opinion of their staff. I shall dispense my examples: Masaru warped Miss Meow to sector 8 repeatedly so she could buy things more quickly. Given it is relatively harmless, it shouldn't occur. Masaru granted himself a baryon injector shortly after the reset and proceeded to use it in pub. Again, relatively harmless, but still abuse of one's power. It would appear this post is an attack on Masaru personally, but those are the only instances I can recall given that I haven't played in about a month. Quote
Requiem. Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 I did what I believe is right. Also, as for the "stolen quotes"What makes you think I posted them?I could have said them into a pub and someone quoted me. No proof.Laff Quote
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