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[nikegurl637]

Just graduated from Cornell with a BS in Animal Science (how about that for less nerdy?). Physical Therapy grad school next.

 

Oh man. I haven't been on HS forums in forever. Or on HS, for that matter. How's everyone doing? ... Does anyone remember me?

Edited June 1, 2009 by nikegurl637

[Kilo]

What's a nikegurl

[Samapico]

It appears to be some kind of tiger... it has been seen climbing 45 degrees hand-drawn slopes and eating dog food.

[op2rules]

@req

I'm taking all the highest classes they offer

I even took a highschool/college program, where I had to go to campus every monday + wensday to take a c/c++/c# class at syracuse university

 

i win

 

Man dude i would kill to be in your position, I've been looking for ways to learn C++ and C# faster for so long!

 

 

Just graduated from Cornell with a BS in Animal Science (how about that for less nerdy?). Physical Therapy grad school next.

 

Oh man. I haven't been on HS forums in forever. Or on HS, for that matter. How's everyone doing? ... Does anyone remember me?

I do!

 

Ok well, I guess I should say my field also. Ever since I was super young I was insane with math, lets just say that today I almost never pay attention in class, I never do my homework, and I pass the class with 95+ overall. Science is the same. Every other class I just about fail in mainly because I'm too lazy (like history, etc).

 

That being said, I also am insane with computers for my area, I know one hell of a lot. No really. Anyways, I will be hopefully making myself all the way to Advanced Computer Sciences. Currently learning C#. I know quite a few web languages and can administrate operating systems of servers somewhat. Oh, and I'm in grade 9 (15 YRS OLD)

[»D1st0rt]

If you wish to continue thinking you're awesome at math and science, don't go to a good engineering school

[Dr Brain]

^--What he said. You can't even grasp what math is until you've taken calc 1 and 2.

[»D1st0rt]

Diff Eq was my favorite math class, then in the next semester all of the classes just threw it out and used Laplace Transforms

[»Blocks]

I'm getting a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering from the California Institute of Technology in 9 days. After that I am taking the summer off to be awesome, and then will work at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

 

Agreed with D1 and Brain ... I thought I was math beezkneez in high school. Then when I got here I took a placement test and got put into a remedial section of freshman math. :-(

[silverbullet]

Hmm, i see a few people here from the health world. I'm trying to become a doctor, i am going to be a sophomore next year. Man I wanna help people, but sometimes thinking about the next seven years... I gotta study my butt off and get loans etc lol for med school later. No time to socialize online but hopefully it will be rewarding(and hopefully I don't get fradulently sued as a doc

[Syrith]

Ok well, I guess I should say my field also. Ever since I was super young I was insane with math, lets just say that today I almost never pay attention in class, I never do my homework, and I pass the class with 95+ overall. Science is the same. Every other class I just about fail in mainly because I'm too lazy (like history, etc).

 

Move to Hong Kong or Singapore, then we'll see...

[Suicide_Run]

Ok well, I guess I should say my field also. Ever since I was super young I was insane with math, lets just say that today I almost never pay attention in class, I never do my homework, and I pass the class with 95+ overall. Science is the same. Every other class I just about fail in mainly because I'm too lazy (like history, etc).

 

Move to Hong Kong or Singapore, then we'll see...

Doesn't really need to....since he is in gr 9...meaning all his 95+ and w/e was obtained in elementary if not in gr 9. Not trying to burst your bubble op2rules and be mean but that kinda achievement isn't really worth much.

[»Purge]

Hmm, i see a few people here from the health world. I'm trying to become a doctor, i am going to be a sophomore next year. Man I wanna help people, but sometimes thinking about the next seven years... I gotta study my butt off and get loans etc lol for med school later. No time to socialize online but hopefully it will be rewarding(and hopefully I don't get fradulently sued as a doc <_<

 

FYI, you're going to need more than the typical "I wanna help people" reason for pursuing medicine come applying time.

[Atreus]

Stanford Univ. Senior currently. Bioengineering and premed major, business and math minor. Eventually want to go to med school and start a surgical devices business.

[op2rules]

If you wish to continue thinking you're awesome at math and science, don't go to a good engineering school

 

 

^--What he said. You can't even grasp what math is until you've taken calc 1 and 2.

 

Statements of truth indeed, but so far I am blazing through, I'll see later if It is easy when I get there.

[Syrith]

Elementary school math is a joke (in North America... places like China are several years ahead).

 

While I was in Grade 10, a new student from China came to my school in my grade (so Gr. 9 math done) and got perfect on the Grade 11 diagnostic exam and aced the Grade 12 one.

Edited June 14, 2009 by Syrith

[Dr Brain]

The US (public) education system has major problems, but China isn't a role model. They program their students to score well on exams, and once those students leave an academic environment and enter the "real world" their test taking prowess counts for very little. I think they're doing a major disservice to their population by putting their emphasis on test scores.

[Hakaku]

Dunno, Japan also puts a lot of emphasis on not only the grades, but also on the schools themselves. If you're in a certain school, it gives off a lot of information, knowing that it's a private school or not, how well it fairs compared to others, entrance exams, how many graduates will end up successfully entering such and such universities, etc. Without having a university degree of some sort, then you're not garanteed very much (this kind of thinking causes problems for members of the older generation - as unis do judge age). And as the school you're attending corelates with your grades, students (and parents who overpush them) in Japan will often go to jukus (afterschool school) and do lots of extracurricular activities just to cram as much information in their heads as possible. Heck, they even have lots of 'games' for the DS and such which are focused on practicing for their SATs, TOEIC, and all them other tests I forgot the names.

 

Like in the West, absolutely none of it will actually garantee success in life, but it does play an important social factor. If China is anything alike, then it'll also have specific schools focused on specific subjects. So their Math may not actually be that much more advanced on average (the high school I attended in Japan was about par with my Canadian curriculum if not a bit behind in Math). And I should also point out that not only students who go overseas will often face lots of pressure from their family back home to be successful, but they'll often come from families which can afford to put their child in some of the better schools, and it's often recommended and encouraged by the school system that the better students go study abroad. In a very Asian fashion, the "rest" are just subtly brushed aside, in order to maintain the school's 'prestige', or more precisely, cover up the 'flaws'.

[Dr Brain]

Not really sure if your post was for or against that sort of system. It's a social factor because the Japanese culture has made it a social factor, not for any inherent reason. I've had some contact with Japanese students in particular, and I've received mixed opinions as to whether their form of schooling was a good thing.

[Syrith]

The US (public) education system has major problems, but China isn't a role model. They program their students to score well on exams, and once those students leave an academic environment and enter the "real world" their test taking prowess counts for very little. I think they're doing a major disservice to their population by putting their emphasis on test scores.

 

Oh, and I'm in Canada (hi Hakaku).

 

My point was that basically a 9th grade student knew more math than (probably) most of the Grade 12 students taking the math courses (Advanced Functions, Calculus and Vectors) here.

 

Well, if they can learn that stuff quickly, why not other skills? They certainly have some 'extra' time (especially when they move). When the person I was referring to moved here, they were quite shy (or just quiet), but now I've observed that they've made a lot of connections and are participating in many things around the school.

 

 

P.S. The large differences in mentality towards education definitely affect how well students from different locations do in school. I think that Americans have become too relaxed and careless about their children's education and future, while the Chinese are constantly pressuring their children to succeed in order to defeat the competition (foreigners mostly.. I know firsthand) and improve on their living conditions (since many of the parents grew up in worse than average conditions, they just want their children to have better lives).

Edited June 16, 2009 by Syrith

[Suicide_Run]

P.S. The large differences in mentality towards education definitely affect how well students from different locations do in school. I think that Americans have become too relaxed and careless about their children's education and future, while the Chinese are constantly pressuring their children to succeed in order to defeat the competition (foreigners mostly.. I know firsthand) and improve on their living conditions (since many of the parents grew up in worse than average conditions, they just want their children to have better lives).

I think this is true since Chinese parents do pressure their kids alot but that doesn't mean American or other parents doesn't. Though overpressing isn't that great either.

 

My view is that America over all have lower quality of education for elementary and high school where places like Hong Kong has higher. But then the education level in America catches back up once you hit university. I know that in HK, you have to competit with other students to get into good high school where they rank you.

 

The problem I see is that in America, they tend to degrade the status of graduating from university (college in the states) where as places in HK means alot once you come out since theres alot of university and alot more competition. Now days, Masters program are becoming the new "undergrad" where you need it to get decent jobs in certain fields.

Edited June 16, 2009 by Suicide_Run

[Syrith]

I'm not saying that all Americans have a carefree attitude about their children's education, it's just that the (vast) majority seem feel that way. Even my Grade 12 AP Chemistry teacher couldn't care less of what her children grew up to be. To paraphrase her statement, "They have ample opportunity to go down whatever path they wish, I've provided them with all they need."

 

I personally feel that such a relaxed view is hurting your people's futures (of course, feel free to do so, you're only hurting yourselves). By the time US (along with other countries with similar mentalities) realizes the severity of the problem, it may be too late (assuming global nuclear war doesn't break out before then).

 

Ironically, the thing that holds back many Chinese children is the lack of funds for their education (they may have to work many years before they've saved enough), while thats not as much of a problem for Americans (pre-recession anyways).

Edited June 16, 2009 by Syrith

[Kat]

D1, you never told me you were going to work for GDLS. What office? I did some freelance coding work for them last year and sent them my resume, but to no avail. Edited June 16, 2009 by Kat

[»D1st0rt]

not LS, AIS in Fairfax

[protocol_]

Diff Eq was my favorite math class, then in the next semester all of the classes just threw it out and used Laplace Transforms

 

I have a buddy of mine that took that class up at UMass Amherst and the tests were like 4 equations and that avgs was around 24.. lol you gotta love the bell curve for keeping your grades high

[Atreus]

I think that, while Americans are more lax, this leads to advantages as well as disadvantages. The disadvantages are apparent: Students arent pushed to work has hard. However, the less apparent advantages are that those who are able to go above and beyond actually tend to innovate more, since they tend to do what they enjoy. In Chinese culture, there isnt only a lot of pressure to study, but to study certain things if you are smart (i.e. physics) from both society as a whole and parents. Therefore, in many cases, a very smart student will be stuck doing something that they don't really want to do because of their parents or societal pressure and thus, will often want to spend less time on it when they get into the workplace. If Einstein (who, coincidentally, was a bad student) was lukewarm about physics, would he have brought us the discoveries that we owe to him today? Edited June 27, 2009 by Atreus