Minibase REMOVED 2 resets from now...

op2rules · January 7, 2009

Mini is great.

The devs of HyperSpace have ridiculous ideas that us players will just have to suffer through.

Spoiler! --Click here to view--
Every few months they get a new random 'crisis issue'. A few resets ago it was 'spam'. This mythical 'spam' was somehow 'bad' for the zone, so items were given a money cost. It doesn't matter that it's just a money drain and people still use items exactly the same - 'spam' is cured and we're all saved, right? Then last reset it was 'bountying'. Somehow 'bountying' was 'bad' for the zone, and we all had to suffer through the ammo system debacle. Now bountying is just plain off in bases and ineffective/rare in center. The only real place to get high bounty in center is the mini. Guess what? The new random 'issue' is how much the mini is 'ruining the zone'. Nevermind that alot of people like it and there are very few 'mini haters', and those who dislike the mini never explain why or give valid reasons. Nevermind that HS's population has dropped significantly thanks to multiple terrible resets, so that basing almost never happens, and that the mini is the only chance most people have to base these days. Nevermind that ships 3, 4, and 7 can only center in the mini and nowhere else. The mini is 'ruining the zone', so it's gotta go, right? We're actually having fun, why do the devs have to screw with what players are having fun with? It's popular, therefore it must go!

At this rate, it looks like a few resets from now it's there won't be anything fun left at all.

Ahh Bingo, totally agree with Gar here, these are the types of posts I was expecting to see here, however this one covers quite a few ideas.

Corey · January 7, 2009

Gar quite whining, it probably just a test... and event if it isn't, be glad that the didn't just decide to demolish the minibase completely. Either way, just use a warbird or javelin for center. you don't need to just minibase.

vetta64 · January 8, 2009

I really like how Gar complains about the zone like it's his job but he still plays. That makes me laugh.

Gar · January 8, 2009

I'm not complaining. That's what you teenagers don't understand. I'm discussing ways to improve the zone. I'm not saying the zone is bad.

Dr Brain · January 8, 2009

Gar, that's not true at all. Lets see...

The devs of HyperSpace have ridiculous ideas that us players will just have to suffer through.

Not a discussion on improving things.

Every few months they get a new random 'crisis issue'. A few resets ago it was 'spam'. This mythical 'spam' was somehow 'bad' for the zone, so items were given a money cost. It doesn't matter that it's just a money drain and people still use items exactly the same - 'spam' is cured and we're all saved, right? Then last reset it was 'bountying'. Somehow 'bountying' was 'bad' for the zone, and we all had to suffer through the ammo system debacle. Now bountying is just plain off in bases and ineffective/rare in center. The only real place to get high bounty in center is the mini. Guess what? The new random 'issue' is how much the mini is 'ruining the zone'. Nevermind that alot of people like it and there are very few 'mini haters', and those who dislike the mini never explain why or give valid reasons. Nevermind that HS's population has dropped significantly thanks to multiple terrible resets, so that basing almost never happens, and that the mini is the only chance most people have to base these days. Nevermind that ships 3, 4, and 7 can only center in the mini and nowhere else. The mini is 'ruining the zone', so it's gotta go, right? We're actually having fun, why do the devs have to screw with what players are having fun with? It's popular, therefore it must go!

Discussion on why things are "bad", but not a way to improve things.

At this rate, it looks like a few resets from now it's there won't be anything fun left at all.

Also not a way to improve things.

Sorry, 0/3. You fail.

Bankotsu · January 8, 2009

if we are getting rid of the mini base we should at least have a more fun and rewarding powerball game or sumthing. I like the powerball game that hi-5 and sharpflame made that was the most fun subzone. We should take that and put it in like sector 8 or sumthing and make it were u cant flag in there. so we atleast have something fun to play

edit: ps we should get a basing league started to bost pop

Edited January 8, 2009 by Bankotsu

Kilo · January 8, 2009

Ya.. well I'm going to fix powerball rewards because that's simple, it was designed when privates were still around and meant for privates to play. Now basically it's impossible to win any money because it thinks your team is too big. lol. for various reasons it's unlikely we'll regress to an earlier powerball game.

and as I've said countless times we're going to make a quality league so it will be a while before that happens

vetta64 · January 8, 2009

If anything else the mini base proves, we enjoy repetative pointless basing, over, and over, and over,and over,and over,and over, again.

Stibbymicto · January 9, 2009

Mini is great.

The devs of HyperSpace have ridiculous ideas that us players will just have to suffer through.

Spoiler! --Click here to view--
Every few months they get a new random 'crisis issue'. A few resets ago it was 'spam'. This mythical 'spam' was somehow 'bad' for the zone, so items were given a money cost. It doesn't matter that it's just a money drain and people still use items exactly the same - 'spam' is cured and we're all saved, right? Then last reset it was 'bountying'. Somehow 'bountying' was 'bad' for the zone, and we all had to suffer through the ammo system debacle. Now bountying is just plain off in bases and ineffective/rare in center. The only real place to get high bounty in center is the mini. Guess what? The new random 'issue' is how much the mini is 'ruining the zone'. Nevermind that alot of people like it and there are very few 'mini haters', and those who dislike the mini never explain why or give valid reasons. Nevermind that HS's population has dropped significantly thanks to multiple terrible resets, so that basing almost never happens, and that the mini is the only chance most people have to base these days. Nevermind that ships 3, 4, and 7 can only center in the mini and nowhere else. The mini is 'ruining the zone', so it's gotta go, right? We're actually having fun, why do the devs have to screw with what players are having fun with? It's popular, therefore it must go!

At this rate, it looks like a few resets from now it's there won't be anything fun left at all.

Ahh Bingo, totally agree with Gar here, these are the types of posts I was expecting to see here, however this one covers quite a few ideas.

Mmkay

( A ) Bountying = Bad for the zone = Removed

Pros :: More basing, Less Centering. More work for money, More interest in game. Stops maxed out ships from griefing center and getting richer

Cons :: Less centering. More work for money.

My opinion :: Removing Bounty was not only a smart move, it was a good move.

( B ) Mini = Ruining Zone = Expanded / now impossible to defend without the amount of people it would take to defend ANY base.

Pros :: Less centering more basing. Less people bountying in mini. More 'dogfight' combat in center.

Cons :: Not noob friendly for dogfighting. Ships 3,4, 7 pointless in center now. more people sitting in spec.

My opinion :: Not so smart of a move, but only time will tell...

( C ) Raising sell prices of guns and bombs = Causing cash flow and more balanced fighting and more diversity of ships with constant

gun/bomb changing = Sell prices dropped.

Pros :: People smarter with cash thats hard earned in center.

Cons :: Less diversity, Same gun choices as when it was reduced sell prices (i.e. only positron for sig gun, i.e. only shredder for non-sig gun) Ships no longer have personality.

My opinion :: Bad idea. Sell prices should be the same for guns and bombs and prices of addons and the like should be increased.

I think that the equal sell prices allowed diversity and gave players a much more flexible feel for in-game fighting through gun "personality"

Also, Isn't Hyperspace NOT supposed to go back to the way it used to be?

Always moving forward?

Why the sudden decision to turn back when it benefits nobody?

( D ) Flag Change from 5 to 20. = Less basing = Already being discussed by mods.

Buuuttttt....

10 FLAGS!!!!

(ANNNDDD)

( E ) Please don't waste mods times by just complaining and not giving feedback by saying HOW it could be made better.

EDIT :: Kilo, we know your working. Just don't listen to these ungrateful, NONPAYING (I may add) people online. You all know you are... I hate pointing fingers

GAR *Cough Cough*

(Jk Gar, learn to loosen up :\)

Edited January 9, 2009 by Stibbymicto

Corey · January 9, 2009

Stibby, you said this...

"My opinion :: Bad idea. Sell prices should be the same for guns and bombs and prices of addons and the like should be increased."

Didn't quite understand this sentence... please explain.

Exiili · January 9, 2009

Kilo' date=' we know your working. Just don't listen to these ungrateful, NONPAYING (I may add) people online. You all know you are... I hate pointing fingers[/quote']

I assume you mean that Kilo should listen to what you have to say because you're somehow better person than the rest of us.
You constantly create threads in which you show your superior ideas and astonishing analytical skills, which quite frankly, everyone has been against. Because they suck. Just like your last post.
a - You're not superior to us.
b - You do not possess mental powers which we do not.
c - Stop the asskissing, No one will never give you any moderator powers in any zone. Because you certainly are an annoying little kid.

Please don't waste mods times by just complaining and not giving feedback by saying HOW it could be made better.
Omnislash!
Le gasp' date=' a mod' date=' actually doing his job and explaining what players are ignorant about[/quote'']
Rofl Dr Brain. Learn to type before insulting me.
Oh. You guys are doing stuff for the server?
And mods here suckz0r
Mods are not online or are at best afk. When they are online they solve NOTHING.
I must disagree when mods think they can make a moronic mistake and not be harrased for it
I must be the only player who really cares about HS.

Edited January 9, 2009 by Exiili

Stibbymicto · January 9, 2009

Kilo' date=' we know your working. Just don't listen to these ungrateful, NONPAYING (I may add) people online. You all know you are... I hate pointing fingers[/quote']

I assume you mean that Kilo should listen to what you have to say because you're somehow better person than the rest of us.
You constantly create threads in which you show your superior ideas and ashtonising analytical skills, which quite frankly, everyone has been against. Because they suck. Just like your last post.
a - You're not superior to us.
b - You do not possess mental powers which we do not.
c - Stop the asskissing, No one will never give you any moderator powers in any zone. Because you certainly are an annoying little kid.
EDIT :: I had a lengthy post about how your wrong for accusing me this and also why I would HATE being a mod.
But your to pathetic for me to argue with.

Please, be professional and mature enough NOT to post a reply to this because you certainly are an annoying little kid.

And, I was saying that people need to realize that this is a a free game. therefore, mods don't have to give a care about the game. I was saying, that gar needed to add feedback, because if not, no mod was going to waste his/her time thinking up better ideas if they have a project .(which they do)

EDIT :: So thanks for mis-reading my post. :\

Edited January 9, 2009 by Stibbymicto

Stibbymicto · January 9, 2009

Stibby, you said this...

"My opinion :: Bad idea. Sell prices should be the same for guns and bombs and prices of addons and the like should be increased."

Didn't quite understand this sentence... please explain.

I'm not to sure of why guns and bomb prices were increased.

Arnk said it was BECAUSE people would change their weapons repeatedly. Which I said was a good thing because it gave ships diversity.

I just didn't follow the logic. Shouldn't gun diversity and change be a good thing? But, I could be wrong. So I said in my OPINION (Which most people think is a fact :\) Sell prices should be brought back to the way they were and addon / emitter prices could be increased to make up the "difference"

Just from my viewpoint, people were making money to easily with the Sell prices being the same.

(Sorry for the abscurity.)

Edited January 9, 2009 by Stibbymicto

Exiili · January 9, 2009

Maybe I misread your posts because the sentences are incomprehensible.

Gar doesn't "need" to do anything you say.

Stibbymicto · January 9, 2009

Maybe I misread your posts because the sentences are incomprehensible.
Gar doesn't "need" to do anything you say.

Yes your mis-reading.

Now please. Drop it and grow up. :\

Exiili · January 9, 2009

Stibbymicto · January 9, 2009

Mini is great.

The devs of HyperSpace have ridiculous ideas that us players will just have to suffer through.

Spoiler! --Click here to view--
Every few months they get a new random 'crisis issue'. A few resets ago it was 'spam'. This mythical 'spam' was somehow 'bad' for the zone, so items were given a money cost. It doesn't matter that it's just a money drain and people still use items exactly the same - 'spam' is cured and we're all saved, right? Then last reset it was 'bountying'. Somehow 'bountying' was 'bad' for the zone, and we all had to suffer through the ammo system debacle. Now bountying is just plain off in bases and ineffective/rare in center. The only real place to get high bounty in center is the mini. Guess what? The new random 'issue' is how much the mini is 'ruining the zone'. Nevermind that alot of people like it and there are very few 'mini haters', and those who dislike the mini never explain why or give valid reasons. Nevermind that HS's population has dropped significantly thanks to multiple terrible resets, so that basing almost never happens, and that the mini is the only chance most people have to base these days. Nevermind that ships 3, 4, and 7 can only center in the mini and nowhere else. The mini is 'ruining the zone', so it's gotta go, right? We're actually having fun, why do the devs have to screw with what players are having fun with? It's popular, therefore it must go!

At this rate, it looks like a few resets from now it's there won't be anything fun left at all.

Spoiler! --Click here to view--

Kilo · January 9, 2009

Kilo' date=' we know your working. Just don't listen to these ungrateful, NONPAYING (I may add) people online. You all know you are... I hate pointing fingers[/quote']

I assume you mean that Kilo should listen to what you have to say because you're somehow better person than the rest of us.
You constantly create threads in which you show your superior ideas and astonishing analytical skills, which quite frankly, everyone has been against. Because they suck. Just like your last post.
a - You're not superior to us.
b - You do not possess mental powers which we do not.
c - Stop the asskissing, No one will never give you any moderator powers in any zone. Because you certainly are an annoying little kid.

Woah woah, calm down! You know I won't listen to anyone regardless of what Stibby says.

Player ships having somewhat of a static recognizable identity is a primary goal. Switching your guns or whatever every spawn is not desirable to that end. In the future this mechanic may operate somewhat different with warehouse/dequiping, but by then we'd have more items too. Cue Gar.

Stibbymicto · January 10, 2009

Kilo' date=' we know your working. Just don't listen to these ungrateful, NONPAYING (I may add) people online. You all know you are... I hate pointing fingers[/quote']

I assume you mean that Kilo should listen to what you have to say because you're somehow better person than the rest of us.
You constantly create threads in which you show your superior ideas and astonishing analytical skills, which quite frankly, everyone has been against. Because they suck. Just like your last post.
a - You're not superior to us.
b - You do not possess mental powers which we do not.
c - Stop the asskissing, No one will never give you any moderator powers in any zone. Because you certainly are an annoying little kid.

Woah woah, calm down! You know I won't listen to anyone regardless of what Stibby says.

Player ships having somewhat of a static recognizable identity is a primary goal. Switching your guns or whatever every spawn is not desirable to that end. In the future this mechanic may operate somewhat different with warehouse/dequiping, but by then we'd have more items too. Cue Gar.
Warehouse?
As in, a storage for items bought?

I'll wait patiently for that.

Corey · January 10, 2009

Kilo' date=' we know your working. Just don't listen to these ungrateful, NONPAYING (I may add) people online. You all know you are... I hate pointing fingers[/quote']

I assume you mean that Kilo should listen to what you have to say because you're somehow better person than the rest of us.
You constantly create threads in which you show your superior ideas and astonishing analytical skills, which quite frankly, everyone has been against. Because they suck. Just like your last post.
a - You're not superior to us.
b - You do not possess mental powers which we do not.
c - Stop the asskissing, No one will never give you any moderator powers in any zone. Because you certainly are an annoying little kid.

Woah woah, calm down! You know I won't listen to anyone regardless of what Stibby says.

Player ships having somewhat of a static recognizable identity is a primary goal. Switching your guns or whatever every spawn is not desirable to that end. In the future this mechanic may operate somewhat different with warehouse/dequiping, but by then we'd have more items too Cue Gar.

Does this mean you need item ideas?

-gets the thinking cap on-

Dr Brain · January 10, 2009

No, we don't have any need for item ideas. Item names are welcome (in a different thread).

Since this thread is very off topic, I'll close it. If anyone has mini-base related comments, just start a new thread (possibly with a link back to this one).

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