LVZ discussion

[Samapico]

LVZ's are pretty simple, really... Go in the LVZ Library tab above the tileset, right-click in there, Add Image...

Import whatever image you want, define its animation properties, Add

 

Then you draw with it

[Corey]

After i press "add image" it says

 

Runtime error'11':

 

Division by zero

[Samapico]

After i press "add image" it says

 

Runtime error'11':

 

Division by zero

Holy crap... No one told me that before? Everyone is still using that old crappy LVZ Manager?

 

bleh

[Sketter]

Since sam wants the LVZ manage to be put out of business by using the simple "right click add" i made a few requests so it would make easier to do things, by maximizing more features.

 

When those are added, i'll make the tutorial, since i see no use in creating something that is going to be replaced by a system that does things completely different.

 

(I still think the manager gives you far more control and better organization Sam)

 

Sketter

Edited December 1, 2008 by Sketter

[Samapico]

As I explained to Sketter...

 

The current "LVZ Manager" window is very inefficient if your map has a few thousands of map objects. The listboxes controls in there are awfully slow and it freezes DCME for a while everytime they refresh if you have a lot of objects. I even had to set a maximum; I think over 3000 objects it stops displaying them completely with a message like "too many objects to list"

 

I'm fixing the Add Image... thing right now

 

And when I get some time to put a finishing touch, there will be a LVZ menu with all you need

[Drake7707]

that old crappy LVZ Manager?

 

 

well gee, easy to say bad things about others stuff now is it

 

 

j/k , it is crappy after all

[Samapico]

crappy it is, user-friendly-wise; very efficient as in being able to do anything though

 

and I take blame for it too

[Sketter]

I find it to be very user-friendly.

 

You two remind me of M$ who reminds me everyday that "if it's to simple, then it just isn't right".

 

I never needed help with the manager unless i found a bug.

 

Meh, I'll just slowly push Sam to make some other "manager"

 

Sketter

[Samapico]

it's user friendly for people who know the structure of lvz's, otherwise, not that much

For someone who just wants to put an image on the map, doing it in a few clicks with Add Image... seems easier. It creates the LVZ, imports the file, and creates an image definition with the file. All these 3 things are done together 99% of the time, so doing them that way is quicker than with the manager

 

I thought about some different structure though... One where everything would be in the same list

 

Lvz1
|-- + Files
|-- + Images
|-- - Map objects
|----- + Selected objects
|----- somepic.bmp, 8750, 9000, AfterTiles
|-- + Screen objects
Lvz2
...

 

But either way, we'd need to make a whole new custom control for that, because the standard list control we use simply cannot be used with a few thousand map objects (which is seen often)

[Sketter]

Alright, you got a point.

 

Are you open to the idea of keeping the manager, and removing the areas that have issues such as thousand img thing and so on. I feel it could be done in two was that can help both sides.

A place to create, and a place to manage imgs. Cause without some type of manager how will you keep track what's on your screen.

 

( split to new topic? )

[Samapico]

( split to new topic? )

Done

 

 

And check the new FAQ (used to be 'Known issues')... Had to make a new sexy spoiler2 tag for it

 

It just needs to be filled now