met Posted January 15, 2004 Report Posted January 15, 2004 rice has the best idea i've heard in months Quote
SVS Posted January 15, 2004 Report Posted January 15, 2004 I have two comments. 17th's sysops are for the most part underqualified and incapable of running a zone. (Not everyone but pretty -*BAD WORD*- close) The "vet" population of this zone -*BAD WORD*-es way to -*BAD WORD*- much. I mean yes, in every zone that particular portion of the population tends to be a pain but oh my god, STFU. Quote
SeVeR Posted January 15, 2004 Report Posted January 15, 2004 Everything in 17th is fine actually.. svs put it all into perspective. SVS for Sysop! Quote
Cencil Posted January 15, 2004 Report Posted January 15, 2004 You all don't want the weasel because you lacked the skill to play it. Quote
epox Posted January 15, 2004 Report Posted January 15, 2004 Cencil, you're missing the point. It didn't REQUIRE any skill you goofball. Quote
Telson Posted January 15, 2004 Report Posted January 15, 2004 Old weasel was fun..... screw "skill" Quote
nez Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 I may be a newbie who doesn't play Jav cause its too common, and who hasn't been playing forever, and sure I lag and suck, and maybe my $0.02cents isn't strong against your $, but heres my opinion anyway . I don't actually know any of the old settings. I haven't been playing for 3 years. I've been playing for around 3 months. I like the current settings. If anyone thinks the current weasel isn't good enough, why not spec arcane tactics when he's hunting me? There are many good weasel players out there. I think all ships have a place, and I've recced all of them at one stage or another. I think there are many good players (vets or not, how would I know) that have mastered the other ships. One thing I do know as an ex-chaos player, is that one map...forever...is very tedious. I could do with a change to 17th. I probably would quit 17th if the old weasel was introduced. I like the settings as they are. I dont want an unco-one-hit-kills ship on the loose to ruin my stats. p.s. if jav's are so great, why can't people rec them to 4016 bty like my warbird? screenshot29.zip Quote
GhettoSmurf Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 i've grown accustomed to the current settings, but they're just not as fun as the old ones. and i think its because of a lack of diversity. although "all ships have a place," most can be used effectively using similar tactics, which is what originally drove me away from some other zones. its gotten quite boring. what was so great, imo, about the old settings was the diversity in each ship. you had to change strategies and ships to accomodate what was going on around you, and you were always alert, whereas now, you can take on almost any enemy without worrying about what they're flying (unless they're cloaked and you don't have x, of course). the map has also grown rather boring. but i never noticed that problem with the old sets. maybe it's just because i was still new to ss back then, but i think the map was well designed for the old settings and doesn't work as well with the new ones. back then, most ships weren't designed for stray duels in the spawn area, and i often felt more comfortable fighting in the bases. i never got bored, but instead tried to develop new tactics to use the base to its fullest in the heavy battles that constant;y waged over the goals. I've noticed many people whining about the loss of the old jav (i guess that's a bit of an undestatement), but this is what i really missed about the old settings. and about the old weasel: i found it a lot less annoying than the current one. rarely did i see them massing in great numbers, but when i did, a change to terr for about 5 minutes dettered them for quite a while (it had x radar and antiwarp, defeating the only advantages the old weasel actually had). in addition, the old weasel was a -*BAD WORD*- of a lot more fun to fly than the current one. Quote
SeVeR Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 nez is right, changing the map should be the priority. It doesn't take long to get bored to death with the map there is in pub. Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 You shouldnt dis the weasel unless you have playeed it. It has been blamed and put down by so many people, no one know the ingenious, and playability of it. It was fun! it wasnt uber, in fact it was very well balanced out. Quote
Guest Ramzus Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 as far as the old weasel is concerned, if your really worried that if introduced it will ruin your ability to rec, the only ships it rly threatened were the javs and the levis, everything else had x or could cloak, In fact, I loved having the old weasels around coz i would rec off them. but then again im prolly one of only two people who doesnt mind them (me and cecil) Quote
Tipme Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 actually i wouldnt mind the old weasel.. so thats you me and cencil...or if theres a guy out there named cecil...him... Quote
GhettoSmurf Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 did anyone even read what i said? and about the old weasel: i found it a lot less annoying than the current one.in addition, the old weasel was a -*BAD WORD*- of a lot more fun to fly than the current one. Quote
Aileron Posted January 17, 2004 Report Posted January 17, 2004 This is the internet, nobody reads anything anyonw else posts. We just type meaningless pieces of information just to feel important. That is true, there are a lot of people who whine about cloakers, but never played in a cloaking ship themselves. As suggested earlier, if somebody has a problem with cloakers either switch to a ship with X or switch to a ship with cloak. Usually when you deny the cloakers the advantage, they switch ships. Quote
Cencil Posted January 17, 2004 Report Posted January 17, 2004 Ram..If you call me cecil one more time...I will kill you. Quote
Bran Posted January 18, 2004 Report Posted January 18, 2004 I GOT A CRRRRRRRAZZZZZZY IDEA LETS MAKE 17th ONLY USE BOMBS ALL SHIPS R BOMBERSSSSSSSSS HRRRRRRRRRRR Quote
Tipme Posted January 18, 2004 Report Posted January 18, 2004 wow..thats some CRRRRRRRAZZZZZZY IDEA you got there.... Quote
met Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 why not all gunners? then you would have a zone full of javs! wouldn't that make a lot of you happy?! Quote
SeVeR Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 I don't think any of those ideas would make anyone happy. Quote
Premier-17th Posted January 19, 2004 Report Posted January 19, 2004 How about all ships have UFO so noone dies and noone whines. GG problem solved. Premier Quote
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